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BFB Restricted Member 
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As some of you know I am a fat activist. There are over 100 Fat Acceptance blogs and there are a few anti fat acceptance blogs. My Fat Spouse is one of them. http://www.myfatspouse.com/ They are the bane of us obesity promoters. I don't really have a problem with them because as offensive as I may find them, they are very honest. They are brutally honest. They help couples resolve problems when one spouse is fat and the thin spouse has a problem with that. They are anti-obesity but I maintain a pleasant truce with them. They offer weight loss advice although it is not a weight loss site. It is a support site for couples. I would be interested in know what dieters opinions are of http://www.myfatspouse.com/. My wife got tired of being with me because I was so fat. She's a nurse. She told me that she could no longer deal with my obesity and said she refused to stay married to a cardiac cripple. I see her point. We just grew apart. She wanted a size typical man. |
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Hellrazor New Member 
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Why do you come back seeing how most people on here are trying to loose weight. They wanna change and you don't so why may I ask you why??? |
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cportwine Distinguished Member 
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LOL... Ok I refuse to get all worked up again. Geeezzz, I went to the site and read a little bit (and I mean a little bit). I have got to say, I totally disagree with most of it. My husband and I have been together for 19 years, and I don't really see how being fat or thin has anything to do with our marriage. Yeah! I won't lie, it does play a part in it. But, not so much about how we see each other. It's more about being jealous and feeling confident in one self. I guess I am old schooled and think you either love someone or you don't. How can you fall out of love with someone cause they are fat. I don't get that. Just like I don't understand how anyone can leave someone cause of some petty thing. Marriage is something you have to work at everyday (very hard at times, I might add). But, my point is that to many people now a days look for reasons to end a relationship. Maybe is because both me and my husband grew up in a family where our parents are still married, I don't know. We both feel very strongly about staying together and working the problems out. Not just saying "oh your to fat, or you work to many hours" wannnnnn- get over it. Life isn't easy and neither is marriage. The other funny thing I find myself thinking is that I don't even notice how big or small my husband is. He looks the same to me as the day I met him. lol, odd huh, considering he is different in looks. He has grey hair now, and is larger then he use to be. But, I don't see that when I look at him. I just see my husband the guy I married. I found the part about sex with a overweight spouses pretty funny also. Without getting graphic or anything. Lets just say there is nothing wrong with my hubby's big belly, and nothing about it that grosses me out when having sex. If he is parading around naked in front of me. I am not thinking "ewww" I am thinking, yeah, get over here....  lol.So, I guess that, if these peoples spouses our leaving them cause they are fat, then there has got to be more going on, or not going on in their relationships. For it to come down to something so petty, then there wasn't much there to begin with. Last edited on 14 Oct 2008 03:37 pm by cportwine |
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Well said, Cindy.  |
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In my marriage it was a matter of love. I loved food more than her. There are not a whole lot of women who would want a lummox like me on top of them sweating and grunting. I don't blame her. Being 30 pounds over weight is one thing. I am 250 pounds overweight. Men are able to have sex with fat women. When you get to my size the only way you can is with the woman on top and even then there is so much fat that it usually does not work. Then you have the issue of diabetes and stamina. When you get to my size...I don't mean to be indelicate, but there are hygiene issues. We are often stinky. I need a butt wand to reach "back there". Ample-Sponges  These thirsty bad boys sop it where you need it most! It ain't pretty being fat. You have to take the good with the bad. The good is the food the glorious food. The bad is the health, hygiene and mobility issues. Food usually trumps the others. I respect My Fat Spouse. I just disagree with them. |
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BFB Restricted Member
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Hellrazor wrote: Why do you come back seeing how most people on here are trying to loose weight. They wanna change and you don't so why may I ask you why??? That is a great question. The people who change their gluttonous ways want to change. The ones who don't don't. I want to remain a glutton like most people. If and when I end my gluttony and lose weight it will be because I want to and not because someone else wants me too or because I think being fat and gluttonous is wrong. My Fat Spouse sees gluttony as a moral failing. I see it as an acceptable life style as do most Americans. Obesity and gluttony are the new normal. |
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Victor version 4.0 Distinguished Member 
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I am not even gonna touch this one! |
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cportwine Distinguished Member
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BFB, Well see, they said it right there.....they love food more then their spouse. What more can I say. I would not take back seat to anyone or anything. Most people looking for love wouldn't... Yeah! I can stand back for awhile, but not indefinitly. I don't even know what to say. If you don't love them, then how can you expect the person to put up with your flaws.. (meaning fat). I wouldn't put up with a jerk, if I knew he didn't love me... |
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cportwine Distinguished Member
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Oh yeah! almost forgot. If my husband loved me- then yes....I would help him with all of those issues and then some.... So, see it's all about the love...  Last edited on 14 Oct 2008 04:18 pm by cportwine |
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cportwine Distinguished Member
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BFB, I still think all your gluttony talk is BS! |
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Hellrazor New Member
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BFB, Well even if you are telling the truth lets just say you will die lonely but full man. That is a sad way to go don't you think. . I mean come on man look at that sponge you really like using that doubtful . |
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Lucy New Member 
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I really dont know what to say, except perhaps you are not who you say you are, and just trying to stir the pot, and bring people over to that site. A walking advertisment. |
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl Distinguished Member 
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I'm glad you've found what makes you happy, I guess you're much like a drug addict, eventually your obsession will kill you. You probably don't care, but I feel obligated to share my viewpoint with you. I love my life, I love living, and for that reason I choose to try and make myself live as long as possible. Being a healthy weight is very important for my health and therefore I choose to acheive a healthy weight. You only get one life. One time around, that's it. When it's over they close the coffin and that's it, whatever you choose to believe, even if it's in reincarnation, you will never be "you" again. I sincerely hope food is what you want your life's acheivement to be. I want my life's achievement to be a long and healthy life spent with my family whom I love. |
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl Distinguished Member
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I'm at work and I just had to post that when trying to view this website this is what I got: Your organizations Internet use policy restricts access to this web page at this time Reason: The Websense category "Tasteless" is filtered. I thought this was very funny! Last edited on 14 Oct 2008 11:16 pm by OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl |
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StuckSara Distinguished Member 
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OMG, I don't get this at all! You'd rather eat food than have any good sex??? No, not even that, you'd rather eat a ton of food, than have any sex at all. Food is supposed to be you fuel to go live your life... doesn't sound like you're really living. |
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cportwine Distinguished Member
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Lucy wrote: I really dont know what to say, except perhaps you are not who you say you are, and just trying to stir the pot, and bring people over to that site. A walking advertisment. I think you hit the nail on the head..... that is why I think it is all BS! |
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cportwine Distinguished Member
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StuckSara wrote: OMG, I don't get this at all! You'd rather eat food than have any good sex??? No, not even that, you'd rather eat a ton of food, than have any sex at all. Food is supposed to be you fuel to go live your life... doesn't sound like you're really living. LOL, that is so funny.... let's just say...I love having sex.... |
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl wrote: I'm glad you've found what makes you happy, I guess you're much like a drug addict, eventually your obsession will kill you. You probably don't care, but I feel obligated to share my viewpoint with you. I love my life, I love living, and for that reason I choose to try and make myself live as long as possible. Being a healthy weight is very important for my health and therefore I choose to acheive a healthy weight. You only get one life. One time around, that's it. When it's over they close the coffin and that's it, whatever you choose to believe, even if it's in reincarnation, you will never be "you" again. I sincerely hope food is what you want your life's acheivement to be. I want my life's achievement to be a long and healthy life spent with my family whom I love. Something has to kill you. It might as well be something you like right? Obviously you are an exceptionally nice lady. Your motives are pure and noble. Most people are not like you. I'm not so nice. My motives are like most Americans. They are degenerate and ignoble. You are taking the tough path and I am taking the easy one. Well, I hope this has cleared up any misconceptions you may have had about food and diets. And remember: 'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride' Here is an article I wrote.  Now that America is proudly the FATTEST NATION ON EARTH it is time that we celebrate this wonderful milestone. With BBWs unapologetically flaunting their super sized bodies all over the net we can enthusiastically say that the age of the fatty is here. We have arrived! There is a lot of dishonest moralizing about the sin of gluttony but the time has come for some real honesty. We fat folks love food. We love food more than just about anything else and why shouldn't we? Food does not judge. Food does not ignore our pleas. Food makes us feel good. Food is our friend. Embrace gluttony. Gluttony is our religion that brings us near to the belly god we call Food. Praise Food glorious glorious glorious FOOD! |
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StuckSara wrote: OMG, I don't get this at all! You'd rather eat food than have any good sex??? No, not even that, you'd rather eat a ton of food, than have any sex at all. Food is supposed to be you fuel to go live your life... doesn't sound like you're really living. Like most morbidly obese men I couldn't get it up if I had a crane. What woman in her right mind would want some big lummox like me. Food beats sex hands down. Food does not judge. Food doesn't get pregnant. Food does not cheat on you. Food won't ignore your pleas. Food won't fight with you. Food does not get PMS. Food will not die and leave you lonely. I like being fat. I may be repulsive to some people but I don't care. I'm happy gormandizing and that is all the matters. |
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cportwine Distinguished Member
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BFB, There is no reason not to love food.....there are many foods in the world that are not bad for us.... I don't see any reason in killing yourself for a hamburger. Get over it....move on..make a better person out of yourself. yeah...it sucks and it's not easy....but really, it comes down to being healthy and living or not...you make the choice for yourself... Personally... I chose to live...and really when are these people going to go away and not come on our website anymore......IT'S REALLY PI.... ING ME OFF!!! |
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl Distinguished Member
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BFB wrote:
You know something does have to kill you, that's the absolute truth. How many people have you watched die? How many people have you seen stop breathing? Have you ever seen someone do chest compressions on someone? Watching someone die really helps you put a little perspective on life. |
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People die all the time. The greedy and gluttonous USA kills people all the time so we can drive our SUVs. I have seen death. I know that if I were a decent human being I would behave responsibly and not be such an eat beast but I am like most other Americans except that I am honest about it. According to the Bible Gluttony is a sin but we all know that the Bible is #%@&! and its god is an evil despot so it only goes to follow that anything that goes against the demented Christian god has to be a good thing and what is better than food? Food is OUR god therefore our love for food and enjoyment of it is simply us behaving in a godly manner. When someone like the government or some diet promoter starts issuing diet they would be in effect committing an act of religious persecution. In the case of the government it would be a violation of several constitutionally protected rights. |
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Straylight New Member 
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Oh man, those butt wands are too much! That remind me of the Bart Simpson fantasy he has in the episode where Homer purposefully gains a bunch of weight in order to get on disability for hyperobesity. Bart says "when I grow up, I want to be a lardo on workman's comp, just like Dad" and then it flashes to his fantasy of an older, MUCH fatter Bart, lying in bed holding up one of those butt-wands saying "I wash myself with a rag on a stick." LOL That is one of my favorite episodes AND one of my favorite scenes...  |
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BFB Restricted Member
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Many of us require butt wands and potable bidets for our toileting needs. There is also a super sized toilet for us. |
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DaniMae1 Distinguished Member 
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Butt wand? Wow, I learned a new term today! It is a sad day when a man picks food over sex with his own wife! There is a lot more going on than an eating disability with this guy. |
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Hellrazor New Member
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So BFB you never anwsered my question of why you come here??? I honestly could care less about your ways and how you choose to slowly kill yourself. Go find a different site to stir the pot on . To your comment of "You are taking the tough path and I am taking the easy one" . I say it is cause you are weak your to food. Food has more power than you and that is truly sad. So therefore our tough paths make us stronger to your easy weak path. Also you say I will losse weight when I want to.... Well I'm willing to bet when you want to it will probally be because something life threating happened |
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cportwine Distinguished Member
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You know Hellrazor I totally agree with you. Why would someone want to come on a diet forum and talk a bunch #%@&! that none of us really care about. Gluttony Bible- come on! That don't even make sense. Pretty much nothing you say make any sense. You say one thing in one sentence and then you turn right around and say the opposite. I really don't know how anyone can relate to you or have opinion on what you say. Because no one here knows what you are even saying. Which is why I think everything that comes out of your mouth is a bunch of #%@&!. You keep talking about being a glutton and how that is your choice. Well, fine! WHO CARES! I could care less if that's how you want to spend your life. I'm just really not up for reading about it everyday on a forum that I come to for support in losing weight. You know that just make me  that you come on here and mock us all. I just don't get it. If you are happy being how you are, then why do you need to come on here and look for approval. That is no different then an alcoholic coming on here and asking permission to drink. And if you have this great website with all this #%@&! that you believe in, then why are you here! The only thing I can think of is you either are making money off of doing this or you just like to cause trouble. Anyway, regardless of your beliefs or reasoning for doing this. I for one am not wasting anymore of my time on any of your post. It is pointless, cause you have nothing to say that I want to hear. And I doubt anyone else on here does either. |
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Victor version 4.0 Distinguished Member
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Dude, There are things "WORSE THAN DEATH"... Extreme obisity can accelerate those happening Imagine being:
I was one of the "Lucky Ones" I hope you get some help. |
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BFB Restricted Member
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Victor version 4.0 wrote: Dude, I hear ya but I would remind you that million of Americans choose food over health. I consider myself one of the lucky ones. Unlike everyone here I am embracing the fat and not fighting it. We are all going to die from something. I am going to die from hedonism. I would rather die from that than cancer.. Because I am fat I get extra special medical care. I am not going to suffer. If I am in pain there is morphine. In the meantime I am pigging out.  I think I am the logical one here. We are born and from that moment on we start the dying process. For most people everything in between if not all that good. I'll tell you what is good, Godiva Chocolate, Hardee's thick burgers, IHOP, Pizza, French Fries, Ben and Jerry's, Krispy Kreme, Doritos and dip ect.. Vegetables are what food eats.  |
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At first I was mad and thought about saying some not so nice things, but to be honest I think what I really feel for you bfb is pity. What an absolute shame it is to have an outlook on life like you do. I am working hard to change my ways because of my wife and two children and all the good times ahead with them if I am able to maintain good health. Just go away and kill yourself if that is what you choose to do but I truly hope no one here pays you any attention at all to your BS thoughts and actions. Coach K |
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cportwine wrote: You know Hellrazor I totally agree with you. Why would someone want to come on a diet forum and talk a bunch #%@&! that none of us really care about. Wait a minute. You have responded more to this thread than anyone. For someone who thinks I am full of #%@&! you sure have a lot to say. I am offering an alternative to diet drudgery and failure. How many successful dieters are there? I'll tell you. It's 2%. Anyone can be a glutton. It's easy. I am not telling anyone to diet if that is what they really want. Only 2% of people really want that. If you want to be skinny and eat rabbit food the rest of your life then go for it. I hope you succeed. You will succeed if you want it badly enough. I am going to challenge you. Convince me you want this is what you really want because I am not convinced. I don't believe anyone here. If I really wanted to I could lose weight and keep it off and maybe extend my life by 3 or 4 years. Tell me why that would be worth it. Why should I behave responsibly when it comes to food? What's in it for me? |
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CoachK Distinguished Member
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Ok...That is it...BFB you are a complete idiot!! Go away and don't come back. Go be a dumbass somewhere else. I will be joining Hellrazor and not responding to any of your ignorance again. Coach K |
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CoachK wrote: At first I was mad and thought about saying some not so nice things, but to be honest I think what I really feel for you bfb is pity. What an absolute shame it is to have an outlook on life like you do. I am working hard to change my ways because of my wife and two children and all the good times ahead with them if I am able to maintain good health. Just go away and kill yourself if that is what you choose to do but I truly hope no one here pays you any attention at all to your BS thoughts and actions. Coach K I must say Coach, it sounds like you maybe on of the 2% who actually lose weight and keeps it off. Your reasons sound very unselfish noble but I am like most Americans I am selfish and ignoble. Like most Americans I could give a rat's a$$ about the effects my gluttony has on others. I am not killing myself I am having an abundant life from the simple pleasures of food. I have rejected a cruel, judgmental and punitive god for one that never lets me down. Food is my God. Praise FOOD Glorious Glorious FOOD! I am living the American Dream. McCain 08! |
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CoachK wrote: Ok...That is it...BFB you are a complete idiot!! Go away and don't come back. Go be a dumbass somewhere else. I will be joining Hellrazor and not responding to any of your ignorance again. Coach K That is sooooooooooooooooooo typical. You tell me I need help then you tell me to F off. That is not very Christian of you....well maybe it is. The truth is you know I am right. If you really thought I was in need of help you would be kind. |
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DaniMae1 Distinguished Member
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Oh I have to laugh at this guy! He is offering us an "alternative" to "diet drudgery and failure"! How rich! What is this "alternative"? Sitting on our asses stuffing our face on purpose and thinking we are the enlightened ones?! I for one have not failed. I've lost around 50 pounds and greatly reduced the pain in my knees! Some failure! Plus I can walk up many fights of stairs, spend the day at an amusement park with my family, and bend over to tie my shoes without becoming short of breath. Failure? Who's the failure here? |
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DaniMae1 wrote: Oh I have to laugh at this guy! He is offering us an "alternative" to "diet drudgery and failure"! How rich! What is this "alternative"? Sitting on our asses stuffing our face on purpose and thinking we are the enlightened ones?! Hold on a minute. What is wrong with "sitting on our asses stuffing our faces?" That is the lifestyle of most Americans. I am not going to sit here and allow some self righteous judgmental type insult America. America is by far and away the fattest nation on earth and I for one am darn proud of that achievement. USA USA! I have a scooter so why should I worry about my joints? I have free diabetic meds so why should I worry about diet? I have an elevator in my building so why should I worry about stairs? I wear loafers so why should I worry about tying my shoes? I enjoy amusement parks. Disneyland is very accomodating and the food there is outstanding! Odds are you will put all the weight back on and then some. Then we will see who the failure is. I am a successful fat guy. |
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DaniMae1 Distinguished Member
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Hmmm....let's see...There's nothing "wrong" with sitting on your #%@&! stuffing your face. BUT it is simply silly to offer that as an "alternative" to trying to be fit and healthy. It's not an alternative, it's the easy lazy man route. Yes it is an American's right to sit and stuff his face, BUT it is also an American's right to be fit and healthy. USA USA If you feel like you are being judged for being fat then that is your problem. You brought it on yourself by coming here. YOU came here judging us. We don't sit around here isulting fat people because we all were or are fat! You and your free (taxpayer funded probably) diabetic supplies, and your scooter are a burden on society. It's one thing to have a disease and need help and another thing to be fat on purpose and need help. No one HAS to be fat. I have maintained my weight loss for over 3 years and still going. So the chances I'll regain it are minimal. I enjoy exercise. It makes me happy and feel good. If you are so in love with your fat body and your fat dependent life then why come here to where we are trying to better our health? Not only are you fat, but you are kinda sick too! |
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Hellrazor New Member
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See here is where you are wrong bfb . You say "I am a successful fat guy." and the correct is anwser is you won't be for long. Sure take pride in what you believe in I'm all for that but don't come to a place to knock other people and then get mad when someone knocks you. Also sounds real funny when you call it rabbit food that we are eating but most of us thought that when we were large. Until till you actually trying losing you weight you won't know what real food is. I also think it is funny since you still won't even address my original question of WHY DO YOU COME HERE ANYWAY |
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DaniMae1 wrote: Hmmm....let's see...There's nothing "wrong" with sitting on your #%@&! stuffing your face. BUT it is simply silly to offer that as an "alternative" to trying to be fit and healthy. It's not an alternative, it's the easy lazy man route. Yes it is an American's right to sit and stuff his face, BUT it is also an American's right to be fit and healthy. USA USA I am fat and I am mean. I don't eat no Lean Cuisine. I am am not judging anyone here. I wish you all well. I AM trying to understrand the diet rationale when gluttony is sooo much easier and fun. I came here to let people know that wehn they fail to lose weight and keep it off they are not failures. I am letting people know that the typical American gluttonous lifestyle is a good life style. I am NOT saying the fit lifestyle is bad. I am saying it is not right for most American people. If it were then most Americans would not be fat. There is no need to insult my mental health and by proxy the mental health of all fat people who admit and embrace their gluttony. In fact fat people have higher self esteem than skinny people. Here is proof: [size=The Myth Of Low Self Esteem In Overweight People]  By Roberta Temes, PhD Did you know that the idea of a fat person having low self esteem is a myth? Humans come in various shapes and sizes. Every psychological test given to overweight people indicates that if you are fat you are as mentally healthy, or unhealthy, as anyone in the general population. There is nothing about overeating that is associated with poor emotional health. In fact, it is possible that obese people are emotionally stronger than slim people because many slim folks who were interviewed said they'd stay at home if they were obese.. they would not have the psychological fortitude to be seen in public if they were heavy.    There was a time, right here in the USA, when only the most successful folks were heavy and everyone else tried to emulate them. Large bodies were proof of robust health and substantial wealth. But, in America in the 21st century fat is out, thin is in. Obesity is [size=not] a psychological disorder. Obesity is not an eating disorder. Fat people have a genetic predisposition to gain weight and if they wish to conform to today's ideal of slimness and if they want to maintain good health, they must counteract their inborn biological impulses. This is possible. Difficult, but possible. Particularly possible if you have a diet buddy or buddies. Our genes may give us the capacity and tendency to eat much and gain much, but it is our environment, our habits, that permit the tendency to flourish. Thankfully, we can change our environment and thus fool Mother Nature. You can be a slim person, after all. You can counteract your inborn biologic capacity. Dr. Jules Hirsch, the famous obesity researcher at Rockefeller University, says that obesity should be treated as a chronic disease for which there is no cure but for which there are management techniques. And those techniques do work. But, it's up to you to apply them every day. You override your genetic destiny when you eat when you are not hungry or when you eat only low-calorie foods when you are hungry. It's the gene that opens your mouth that is responsible for overeating. How do you want to manage your weight? You can do it, you know. You can go for surgery and staple your stomach. You can go to a diet doctor and get lots of pills. You can stop eating solids and go on a liquid diet. You can get group support via the Internet. You can lessen urges by acupressure, acupuncture, or aversion therapy. You can count calories or fat grams. You can use hypnosis. And the list goes on and on. There is no shortage of diet programs. In my practice everyone who wants to lose weight does lose because we add hypnosis to the mix. Hypnotic suggestions make it easier to stick to whatever program you decide to follow. And it is crucial to follow a program. Talk to others and find out about a program that may be new to you. Remember, any diet program will work if you follow it. |
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BFB, I don't believe a word you say. I bet you're 90 lbs soaking wet. I bet you're not fat at all. And I bet you're coming on this forum to try and poke fun at people who are overweight. You're not original. You're not funny. You're lame. Now, go away. |
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christyandmuddy wrote: BFB, I don't believe a word you say. I bet you're 90 lbs soaking wet. I bet you're not fat at all. And I bet you're coming on this forum to try and poke fun at people who are overweight. You're not original. You're not funny. You're lame. Now, go away. I am a fat rights advocate. I have two blogs devoted to the new fat acceptance movement. I am a former chapter chair of Washington DC NAAFA. Unlike current fat acceptance I am not against dieting. I do promote gluttony and obesity. I know it is not for everyone but it is for most people. It makes us happy. |
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wolfmonk New Member 
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Ladies and Gentlemen: Please do not feed the troll. |
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl Distinguished Member
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I don't really believe you've seen people die. If you had you'd be more afraid. Do you know how much morphine it takes to manage someones pain who is obese oppossed to someone who isn't? Did you know that you're more likely to get cancer because you're obese? So you don't care. Fine. But I've watched people die. And I've seen people hurt. I've seen people facing down death, and it's not pretty. I've seen obese people asking why this is happening to them (be it a heart attack, stroke or the inability to breath) and I only have one answer for them. It's your weight. I am truly sorry for all of the suffering coming your way that you think you will enjoy. |
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DaniMae1 Distinguished Member
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This is the most entertaining thread at the moment!  I don't know why I get the biggest kick out of this guy. It's like a soap opera. |
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DaniMae1 Distinguished Member
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Okay this guy said that there was a time in America when being big was a sign of robust health....well that was a long time ago and people also thought that the earth was flat, you could drill a hole in an insane person's head to let the "crazy" out, and many other strange things! We've come a long way since then. |
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Victor version 4.0 Distinguished Member
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While I do not agree with this gentleman's perspective on health, (in fact I pity those who share his belief system) I do agree with his cause of "Fat Acceptance". As a one time "Juggernaught" I found that my life was filled with false perceptions from others, which in their worst expression were spewed forth as... Agressive "discrimination", and in their best expression wete put forth as... Passive "condesention". It is imperative that we evaluate others by their beliefs, words, and (more importantly)deeds, and NOT by their outward appearance. |
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kassie New Member
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BFB you say above you are taking the easier way in life. Out of all of the posts you have commented on you haven't given any evidence that you theory of life is any easier. If you truly think your way of life is better please tell us all what it is you can do by being fat? You don't know it but everything you typed above proves and is concrete evidence that being fat isn't better. 1. You lost your wife over it. 2. You aknowledge nothing but food in your life. You will never be able to take care of a kid in life the correct way if you do have one. Could you play with them in the back yard? Could you protect your kid from some trying to kidnap them? 3. As a result of who you become you won't ever be clean. 4. You have actually accepted being alone in life there for never giving you the joy of love. As you and I both know a healthy skinny person will out live a overweight person any day. So that takes away from lenght of your life which I will be enjoying long after you are dead. Please tell me how it is you have seen an chosen your way of life around everything I have said. I could keep going on and on but you and I both know I and the rest of this post particapants are beyond correct. Deep down you know the truth. What you need to do is stop tricking your self. Please excuse me for any typos I did this all from my cell phone because my internet is down on my computer. |
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Scribbler Distinguished Member 
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Victor version 4.0 wrote: While I do not agree with this gentleman's perspective on health, You're quite correct, Victor, and I really try to keep that in mind. However, I must admit that whenever I see really overweight people like those pictured above and quite a few people in the office where I work, the first thought in my head is, "Ewwww!" closely followed by, "At least I'm not that far gone!" There's one poor woman in the office who is so overweight that she has to sort of rock side to side to walk. I find myself glancing at her out the corner of my eye, morbidly fascinated. I'm ashamed of that. I feel like I'm gawking at someone else's suffering and I like to think I'm a better person than that. I know there are organizations such as BFB talks of, I myself cannot comprehend why any reasonably mentally stable person would actively pursue obesity, especially since I am obviously aware of how I instinctively react to the sight of so much weight on a person. I know I am at least on the edge of being addicted to food. I love the taste and texture of certain foods. But I want to be physically fit. There are just soooo many things about being fat that are miserably not fun! |
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roxie New Member 
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I have a question, BFB...if someone could wave a magic wand and make you a 'regular weight', but you could still eat everything that you wanted and not gain a pound, would you have it done? Or would you rather actually be the size you are? |
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Victor version 4.0 Distinguished Member
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Scribbler... What would you have thought of THIS person?   In fact these are the same person as this..  Am I any different because of how I look????? What you said about your perceptions is why we MUST change our thinking about people's outward appearance. BFB is misguided in his thinking on health, on this we all agree, but his cause (accepting people for who they are, not how they look) is just and appropriate. And I for one am wholeheartedly behind that concept! Last edited on 17 Oct 2008 11:29 am by Victor version 4.0 |
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DaniMae1 Distinguished Member
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Wow Victor! What a change! You probably feel soooo much better now. |
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl Distinguished Member
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Victor, thank you for that. I agree, most people are just down right cruel to people who are over-weight. My own family has done some of the worst aggressing against me for my weight. Where is the acceptance of people for who they are. Someone should lose weight to be healthy. Not because they're "gross" because they are fat. People who think like that are ridiculous. I work in a hospital and when I see someone suffering from problems associated with obesity I don't think "ew". I think poor thing, I was there, I hope that they can have as much success and restored health as I have. |
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Victor version 4.0 Distinguished Member
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I appologize for my RANT But it just IRKs me when I hear people go on and on about their appearance or the appearance of others.... It is importasnt to keep the important thing, the important thing. And the important thing with one's size is one's HEALTH, both mental and physical. NOT how they appear! IN the grand scheme of things at the end ALL our bodies will end up as  WORM FOOD!So what does it really matter how it appears now.. Live a good life, Love often and thouroughly, be healthy as possible, and be thankful.. RANT OVER...You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming |
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wolfmonk New Member
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Well said, Victor. |
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I am not sure how to say this delicately, fat is just like anything else. Too much of it is not good for you or any human being. I assume you agree with the above statement. Knowing that, why would one spend time trying to cover up the fact that he or she needs help or should probably lose a few pounds not for anyone else but for themselves? People who are very much over weight that I have talked to pretend as if they like their situation but they admit they have decided to take this stand because they do not think they have what it takes to get to the ideal weight they have in their minds. So tell me, is this something you are proud of and would like to recruit people for or would you rather lose weight and live in a healthy body. A healthy body is much better for an aging human being, would you agree? |
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Scribbler Distinguished Member
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I agree, Victor. =) I don't particularly like the way I instinctively react. And my perceptions take a 180 if I find out that the person is making some effort to become healthier. But I've met too many people who don't seem to care or are actively furthering their unhealthy lifestyle. That's what I find really disgusting. I know it's not easy to change a way of life, which is why those who manage it and become success stories are so inspiring. =) |
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Hellrazor New Member
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You know what is real funny this bfb comes here starts this and then bails |
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Lucy New Member
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thats because he is a fraud...trust me he is nothing more then a pawn from that other site, sent over to raise #%@&! and get some of us "fatties" in a rage. |
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sweet kisses Senior Member 
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BFB wrote:
Here's some reasons why I'm trying to lose weight: 1) I LOVE playing tennis. I'd choose tennis over a cupcake anyday. And if I was fat, I wouldn't be able to play. That'd make me extremely unhappy. 2) I am like a fashion addict. If I was fat, I wouldn't fit into any of those sexy cool designer clothes like Abercrombie and Ralph Louren. Again, I'd be unhappy. 3)I love guys. And lets face it, at my age a guy is not even going to glance at me if I'm fat. I wouldn't like that at all. These are just a few of the reasons I choose to watch my diet and exercise. Right now my health isn't much of a priority right now so much as simply feeling good. And feeling good means eating healthy foods and moving my body. I guess another thing is I have passion in life. I'm sorry, but sitting at home alone all day stuffing my face doesn't really sound like a good time. It actually sounds kinda boring. Maybe you need to find a passion in your life (And creampuffs don't count). |
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Straylight New Member
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That's great that you said cause I love guys. That's in my top three reasons too! nice... |
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BJD74 Distinguished Member 
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i know i dont need to say anything about my hubby liking me as i am, which i term as "fluffy ' if anything! he and i as i have said in other notes and thoughts have a huge bag of history for ourselves and i deal daily with his as he deals daily with mine. Marriage is tough, and I have been here for a year and a half, married since July..but when you each have differences and feelings and responses to certain stimuli well.....we just dont get up and go away. It is work every day. It is easy to get into a routine of being too tired, or not dressing pretty or not shaving daily...since you get used to each other and what you look like. I experience my dulldrums from time to time since I am not working and dressing up. I dont dress up alot, I wear casual, get dirty stuff but granted, I try each day to make pretty. I smell nice, I always always have a manicure and pedicure, that i do myself at home, i dont let myself "slob" out just cuz i am home. I dress up now when we go to dinner, instead of jeans and he enjoys it and does the same. He works as an RV technician so his days are in uniform and dirty hands. He is thin as a rail and very lean...not an ounce of fat on him, and its intimidating but BEAUTIFUL to see a human form in such PURE FORM? does that make sense? I see us standing together naked and I think man, he is a MAN in sculpted perfection and I am rubinesque like the models that were used for DaVinci etc....its crazy to see us together, and yet? we fit so Perfectly and its lovely when we come together in hugs and embraces because he is tall and my head fits into his shoulder. He makes me feel slighter somehow, even though I do weigh more than him. My point being, he has NEVER said I am fat. In fact he said he is proud of my ability to maintain to go exercise to take the time to cook healthy meals, as his ex wife would just eat cereal or frozen foods and never cared what everyone else ate or did and she never made any attempt at keeping herself conditioned, except for her hair...she was a hair stylist so i guess that was all she cared about. I dont like being overweight, but at least I am not gluttonous...the sort who just complains and doesnt understand why they are overweight as they eat processed food and get stuck on the couch. Though, I do sometimes feel that way, I am not impressed by most overweight, obese people esp when you see them eating complete junk in abundence. I guess in some way I respect them for not caring or at least being aware of what they are doing to themselves..they seem to be happy in that way with themselves. I may be assuming as much, but its hard not to? It is a difficult world to be obese in, esp with the media playing its huge role. Women being posted as sexy think in shape with perfect figures are everywhere and it is hard to ignore them. WHAT WAS THE WORLD LIKE BEFORE SEX SOLD EVERYTHING WE NEED TO SUSTAIN LIFE? just a thought. I do admit to being a victim of that intimidation. I dont like being a victim, but ideally its about liking yourself as you ARE..and there are obese people who do like themselves as they are. The important part is they are not healthy, but they are not people who dont deserve love marriage children etc. We are all different and unique in our own ways. |
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McBalls Senior Member
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http://www.besthealthmag.ca/blog/post/news-marriage-makes-women-gain-weight-for-men-its-divorce Women are famous for bait-and-switching their partners. |
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JSABD Distinguished Member 
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McBalls wrote: http://www.besthealthmag.ca/blog/post/news-marriage-makes-women-gain-weight-for-men-its-divorce They do that all the time. False advertising. I find it pitiful how apologetic men on My Fat Spouse are when they complain about their fat wives but I find it refreshing how direct most slender women are. I think if women were a libidinous as men and were visually oriented they'd be even more disgusted by it. |
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Bamagirly Senior Member 
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What's disgusting is seeing a woman who thinks that working a full time job (if she needs to), preparing proper meals for herself and family, light daily household cleaning, giving her children and spouse the attention they need, and exercising and grooming herself is way too much to handle. If you can't woman up and do these things, you don't deserve a spouse much less children. Yes, men notice women who pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get things accomplished and look nice doing them. And whether they say it or not, they're very disgusted when their wife won't no matter how many excuses she tries to come up with. |
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JSABD Distinguished Member
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Bamagirly wrote:What's disgusting is seeing a woman who thinks that working a full time job (if she needs to), preparing proper meals for herself and family, light daily household cleaning, giving her children and spouse the attention they need, and exercising and grooming herself is way too much to handle.?é?á Fatties have every excuse in the book. |
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naturalstamina New Member
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roxie wrote:I have a question, BFB...if someone could wave a magic wand and make you a 'regular weight', but you could still eat everything that you wanted and not gain a pound, would you have it done? ?é?áOr would you rather actually be the size you are? This is a very interesting question and get to the heart of the matter. Many fat people and so called "gluttons" even had labels themselves so in an effort to feel better about themselves. This is when self-justification goes to the extreme and rears its ugly face, quite literally. This really is a deeper issue. I LOVE to eat, just as much as any glutton. In fact, i love nothing better than cooking and eating all day. However I have not let my self-worth and self-image degrade so much that i have no respect for myself and find comfort in the foods that i eat alone. I've struggled with addiction before, and this really is no different once you understand the underlying emotional and physical reasons we keep doing the same thing that hurts us, yet justifying or turning a blind eye to the truth at hand. It really starts at awareness, with love and respect for one self. It's the last thing i would want to bring up, but its the Tough Love forum and it's the truth. |
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JSABD Distinguished Member
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naturalstamina wrote: roxie wrote: Blah Blah Blah Anyone who loves to eat loves to eat. It's a sick thing to say. Eating feels good. It feels better than behaving responsibly and it's easy to do and that why people do it. If they did not "love" themselves that would act like those pro ana girls who really do hate themselves. Hedonists live to eat. Responsible people eat to live. Love and self respect have nothing to do with it. Gluttons don't respect anything. |
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naturalstamina New Member
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JSABD, I've seen a few of your other posts and i see you to be knowledgeable in the basics and fundamentals of healthy living. However, this is a different matter in which you are speaking and is actually my stronger suit. Mindset can do wonders, you dont have to look far to find countless stories. If you don't love eating, I feel bad for you, be more creative, find recipes that you do like and love to eat. I love lots of things, it doesn't meant i consume myself with those things. I find ways to take care of myself first so that i can take care of others. That's what is most important, Jim Rohn shared the same philosophy. I love a good drive, a good workout, learning something new, spending quality time with friends and family. |
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JSABD Distinguished Member
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naturalstamina wrote: JSABD, I've seen a few of your other posts and i see you to be knowledgeable in the basics and fundamentals of healthy living. I love my family. Food is something we require. I enjoy food but I don't love it. Nobody should love food but they do and they love it more than their kids. Healthy eating is not rocket science. It's very simple. Don't eat #%@&!. A lot of people like to complicate it. If it grows eat it. If it is processed don't eat it. Different food grows and is consumed all over the world. In the US the 7th day Adventists and the Amish are healthy and long lived and they eat very different diets. The rural Chinese are also healthy and long lived and they eat the foods that are available. The healthiest way of eating I know of is CRON and I eat a modified version of it and as I get older I get more into it. Right now I still want to maintain my musculature. |
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Artemis New Member
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i am a woman and i am very visual, my fat spouse is totally disgusting to me. The funniest thing ever is the fact is if i was his weight he would never be attracted to me, so there is one of the first of many double standards they have. he doesn't understand why i am not attracted to him. their love of food out weighs everything. And for all the fat guys out there i cock my lil finger at you. it must be a soft lil finger because most have ED. he never understood why i look at other men, but he knows why they look at me, but did he do anything about his weight, nooooo! OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl wrote: I don't really believe you've seen people die.?é?á If you had you'd be more afraid. they are not afraid, my estranged husband had bowel cancer and managed to put on 100lbs whilst on chemo, they become more selfish. Last edited on 4 Jul 2012 11:41 am by Artemis |
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JSABD Distinguished Member
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There are ways to get a fatling to be less egotistical and self centered but it takes a lot of work and it is not pretty. Keep in mind that fatties are overly self indulgent with food many many times per day. The think they deserve all the gluttonous pleasure. They reinforce that behavior and fattitude aka Fat Attitude. Their unbridled food lust continues to build momentum until if creates what I call a fattitudninal avalanche or behavioral flabbalanche. When it hits that point there is usually no stopping it. Their super ego has been drowned in a flood of glutton food and their ID goes marching on to the all you can eat buffet. Intervention is tough because society has normalized obesity and gluttony and most therapists absolve gluttons of any and all personal responsibility. The chances of a glutton reforming is slime and none. The best way to cure gluttony is to lock them up in a "detox" center and feed them healthy food but doing so would be politically incorrect. The need contrition. Here is the Catholic Act of Contrition. O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended You and I detest all my sins, because I dread the loss of heaven and the pains of #%@&!, but most of all because they offend you, my God, who are all good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of your grace, to confess my sins, to do penance and to amend my life.Let's modify it for Gluttons. The Glutton's Repent O my family, I am heartily sorry for having disregarded You and I detest all my piggishness, because I dread the loss of You and the pains of strokes, diabetes, heart attack, joint problems, COPD and vasculitis but most of all because they offend you, my family, who are good and deserving of all my love and respect. I firmly resolve, with the help of your patience, to confess my sins of sloth, hedonism and gluttony to do penance and to amend my life. |
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babyen0330 New Member
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Hey! It is so nice that you are being loving and supportive. Just make sure that your spouse is not reaching the point where she is at a great risk for diabetes or clogged arteries (among many other health scares). Continue to shower your spouse with love and suppose health, not skinniness! |
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Diet Coach Distinguished Member
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babyen0330 wrote: Hey! It is so nice that you are being loving and supportive. Just make sure that your spouse is not reaching the point where she is at a great risk for diabetes or clogged arteries (among many other health scares). Continue to shower your spouse with love and suppose health, not skinniness! We really need to focus on gluttony and not deny that it is the chief cause of obesity. |
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SamSamson Member
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wow interesting site. Myfatspouse.com I bet lots of people are frustrated at how fat their partners are :S Never realised |
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Diet Coach Distinguished Member
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SamSamson wrote: wow My Fat Spouse is a great site! |
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