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DaniMae1
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 Posted: 17 Oct 2008 10:49 am
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Wow Victor!  What a change!  You probably feel soooo much better now.  :grin: 

OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl
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 Posted: 17 Oct 2008 02:18 pm
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Victor, thank you for that.  I agree, most people are just down right cruel to people who are over-weight.  My own family has done some of the worst aggressing against me for my weight.  Where is the acceptance of people for who they are.  Someone should lose weight to be healthy.  Not because they're "gross" because they are fat.  People who think like that are ridiculous. 

I work in a hospital and when I see someone suffering from problems associated with obesity I don't think "ew".  I think poor thing, I was there, I hope that they can have as much success and restored health as I have.

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 Posted: 17 Oct 2008 02:46 pm
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I appologize for my RANT  :chewing:

But it just IRKs me when I hear people go on and on about their appearance or the appearance of others....

It is importasnt to keep the important thing, the important thing.
And the important thing with one's size is one's HEALTH, both mental and physical.
NOT how they appear!

IN the grand scheme of things at the end  ALL our bodies will end up as

:skull:WORM FOOD!:skull:

So what does it really matter how it appears now..

Live a good life, Love often and thouroughly, be healthy as possible, and be thankful..

RANT OVER...You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming

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 Posted: 17 Oct 2008 05:09 pm
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Well said, Victor.


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 Posted: 17 Oct 2008 05:57 pm
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I am not sure how to say this delicately, fat is just like anything else. Too much of it is not good for you or any human being.

I assume you agree with the above statement. Knowing that, why would one spend time trying to cover up the fact that he or she needs help or should probably lose a few pounds not for anyone else but for themselves?

People who are very much over weight that I have talked to pretend as if they like their situation but they admit they have decided to take this stand because they do not think they have what it takes to get to the ideal weight they have in their minds.

So tell me, is this something you are proud of and would like to recruit people for or would you rather lose weight and live in a healthy body. A healthy body is much better for an aging human being, would you agree?

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 Posted: 19 Oct 2008 02:41 pm
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I agree, Victor. =)

I don't particularly like the way I instinctively react.  And my perceptions take a 180 if I find out that the person is making some effort to become healthier.  But I've met too many people who don't seem to care or are actively furthering their unhealthy lifestyle.  That's what I find really disgusting.

I know it's not easy to change a way of life, which is why those who manage it and become success stories are so inspiring. =)

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 Posted: 19 Oct 2008 04:37 pm
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You know what is real funny this bfb comes here starts this and then bails:grin::grin:

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 Posted: 19 Oct 2008 05:31 pm
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thats because he is a fraud...trust me he is nothing more then a pawn from that other site, sent over to raise #%@&! and get some of us "fatties" in a rage.

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 Posted: 24 Oct 2008 07:07 pm
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BFB wrote:
If I really wanted to I could lose weight and keep it off and maybe extend my life by 3 or 4 years. Tell me why that would be worth it. Why should I behave responsibly when it comes to food? What's in it for me?

Here's some reasons why I'm trying to lose weight:  1) I LOVE playing tennis.  I'd choose tennis over a cupcake anyday.  And if I was fat, I wouldn't be able to play. That'd make me extremely unhappy.  2) I am like a fashion addict.  If I was fat, I wouldn't fit into any of those sexy cool designer clothes like Abercrombie and Ralph Louren.  Again, I'd be unhappy.  3)I love guys.  And lets face it, at my age a guy is not even going to glance at me if I'm fat.  I wouldn't like that at all.

These are just a few of the reasons I choose to watch my diet and exercise.  Right now my health isn't much of a priority right now so much as simply feeling good.  And feeling good means eating healthy foods and moving my body.  I guess another thing is I have passion in life.  I'm sorry, but sitting at home alone all day stuffing my face doesn't really sound like a good time.  It actually sounds kinda boring.  Maybe you need to find a passion in your life (And creampuffs don't count).

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 Posted: 25 Oct 2008 01:42 pm
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That's great that you said cause I love guys.  That's in my top three reasons too!  nice...

 

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 Posted: 26 Nov 2008 02:24 pm
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i know i dont need to say anything about my hubby liking me as i am, which i term as "fluffy ' if anything! he and i as i have said in other notes and thoughts have a huge bag of history for ourselves and i deal daily with his as he deals daily with mine. Marriage is tough, and I have been here for a year and a half, married since July..but when you each have differences and feelings and responses to certain stimuli well.....we just dont get up and go away. It is work every day. It is easy to get into a routine of being too tired, or not dressing pretty or not shaving daily...since you get used to each other and what you look like. I experience my dulldrums from time to time since I am not working and dressing up. I dont dress up alot, I wear casual, get dirty stuff but granted, I try each day to make pretty. I smell nice, I always always have a manicure and pedicure, that i do myself at home, i dont let myself "slob" out just cuz i am home. I dress up now when we go to dinner, instead of jeans and he enjoys it and does the same. He works as an RV technician so his days are in uniform and dirty hands. He is thin as a rail and very lean...not an ounce of fat on him, and its intimidating but BEAUTIFUL to see a human form in such PURE FORM? does that make sense? I see us standing together naked and I think man, he is a MAN in sculpted perfection and I am rubinesque like the models that were used for DaVinci etc....its crazy to see us together, and yet? we fit so Perfectly and its lovely when we come together in hugs and embraces because he is tall and my head fits into his shoulder. He makes me feel slighter somehow, even though I do weigh more than him. My point being, he has NEVER said I am fat. In fact he said he is proud of my ability to maintain to go exercise to take the time to cook healthy meals, as his ex wife would just eat cereal or frozen foods and never cared what everyone else ate or did and she never made any attempt at keeping herself conditioned, except for her hair...she was a hair stylist so i guess that was all she cared about. I dont like being overweight, but at least I am not gluttonous...the sort who just complains and doesnt understand why they are overweight as they eat processed food and get stuck on the couch. Though, I do sometimes feel that way, I am not impressed by most overweight, obese people esp when you see them eating complete junk in abundence. I guess in some way I respect them for not caring or at least being aware of what they are doing to themselves..they seem to be happy in that way with themselves. I may be assuming as much, but its hard not to? It is a difficult world to be obese in, esp with the media playing its huge role. Women being posted as sexy think in shape with perfect figures are everywhere and it is hard to ignore them. WHAT WAS THE WORLD LIKE BEFORE SEX SOLD EVERYTHING WE NEED TO SUSTAIN LIFE?

just a thought. I do admit to being a victim of that intimidation. I dont like being a victim, but ideally its about liking yourself as you ARE..and there are obese people who do like themselves as they are. The important part is they are not healthy, but they are not people who dont deserve love marriage children etc. We are all different and unique in our own ways.

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 Posted: 25 Aug 2011 03:24 pm
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http://www.besthealthmag.ca/blog/post/news-marriage-makes-women-gain-weight-for-men-its-divorce

 

Women are famous for bait-and-switching their partners.

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 Posted: 25 Aug 2011 04:47 pm
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McBalls wrote: http://www.besthealthmag.ca/blog/post/news-marriage-makes-women-gain-weight-for-men-its-divorce

 

Women are famous for bait-and-switching their partners.

They do that all the time. False advertising.

I find it pitiful how apologetic men on My Fat Spouse are when they complain about their fat wives but I find it refreshing how direct most slender women are. 

I think if women were a libidinous as men and were visually oriented they'd be even more disgusted by it.

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 Posted: 26 Aug 2011 04:26 pm
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What's disgusting is seeing a woman who thinks that working a full time job (if she needs to), preparing proper meals for herself and family, light daily household cleaning, giving her children and spouse the attention they need, and exercising and grooming herself is way too much to handle. 

If you can't woman up and do these things, you don't deserve a spouse much less children.

Yes, men notice women who pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get things accomplished and look nice doing them.  And whether they say it or not, they're very disgusted when their wife won't no matter how many excuses she tries to come up with.

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 Posted: 27 Aug 2011 12:09 am
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Bamagirly wrote:
What's disgusting is seeing a woman who thinks that working a full time job (if she needs to), preparing proper meals for herself and family, light daily household cleaning, giving her children and spouse the attention they need, and exercising and grooming herself is way too much to handle.?é?á

If you can't woman up and do these things, you don't deserve a spouse much less children.

Yes, men notice women who pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get things accomplished and look nice doing them.?é?á And whether they say it or not, they're very disgusted when their wife won't no matter how many excuses she tries to come up with.


Fatties have every excuse in the book.

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 Posted: 3 Sep 2011 04:01 pm
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I have a question, BFB...if someone could wave a magic wand and make you a 'regular weight', but you could still eat everything that you wanted and not gain a pound, would you have it done? ?é?áOr would you rather actually be the size you are?

This is a very interesting question and get to the heart of the matter. Many fat people and so called "gluttons" even had labels themselves so in an effort to feel better about themselves. This is when self-justification goes to the extreme and rears its ugly face, quite literally. This really is a deeper issue.

I LOVE to eat, just as much as any glutton. In fact, i love nothing better than cooking and eating all day. However I have not let my self-worth and self-image degrade so much that i have no respect for myself and find comfort in the foods that i eat alone. I've struggled with addiction before, and this really is no different once you understand the underlying emotional and physical reasons we keep doing the same thing that hurts us, yet justifying or turning a blind eye to the truth at hand.

It really starts at awareness, with love and respect for one self.

It's the last thing i would want to bring up, but its the Tough Love forum and it's the truth.

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 Posted: 3 Sep 2011 11:17 pm
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naturalstamina wrote: roxie wrote:
I have a question, BFB...if someone could wave a magic wand and make you a 'regular weight', but you could still eat everything that you wanted and not gain a pound, would you have it done?  Or would you rather actually be the size you are?

This is a very interesting question and get to the heart of the matter. Many fat people and so called "gluttons" even had labels themselves so in an effort to feel better about themselves. This is when self-justification goes to the extreme and rears its ugly face, quite literally. This really is a deeper issue.

I LOVE to eat, just as much as any glutton. In fact, i love nothing better than cooking and eating all day. However I have not let my self-worth and self-image degrade so much that i have no respect for myself and find comfort in the foods that i eat alone. I've struggled with addiction before, and this really is no different once you understand the underlying emotional and physical reasons we keep doing the same thing that hurts us, yet justifying or turning a blind eye to the truth at hand.

It really starts at awareness, with love and respect for one self.

It's the last thing i would want to bring up, but its the Tough Love forum and it's the truth.

Blah Blah Blah

Anyone who loves to eat loves to eat. It's a sick thing to say.

Eating feels good. It feels better than behaving responsibly and it's easy to do and that why people do it. If they did not "love" themselves that would act like those pro ana girls who really do hate themselves.

Hedonists live to eat. Responsible people eat to live. Love and self respect have nothing to do with it. Gluttons don't respect anything.

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 Posted: 4 Sep 2011 12:03 am
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JSABD, I've seen a few of your other posts and i see you to be knowledgeable in the basics and fundamentals of healthy living.

However, this is a different matter in which you are speaking and is actually my stronger suit.

Mindset can do wonders, you dont have to look far to find countless stories.

If you don't love eating, I feel bad for you, be more creative, find recipes that you do like and love to eat.

I love lots of things, it doesn't meant i consume myself with those things. I find ways to take care of myself first so that i can take care of others. That's what is most important, Jim Rohn shared the same philosophy. I love a good drive, a good workout, learning something new, spending quality time with friends and family.

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 Posted: 4 Sep 2011 02:06 am
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naturalstamina wrote: JSABD, I've seen a few of your other posts and i see you to be knowledgeable in the basics and fundamentals of healthy living.

However, this is a different matter in which you are speaking and is actually my stronger suit.

Mindset can do wonders, you dont have to look far to find countless stories.

If you don't love eating, I feel bad for you, be more creative, find recipes that you do like and love to eat.

I love lots of things, it doesn't meant i consume myself with those things. I find ways to take care of myself first so that i can take care of others. That's what is most important, Jim Rohn shared the same philosophy. I love a good drive, a good workout, learning something new, spending quality time with friends and family.

I love my family.  Food is something we require. I enjoy food but I don't love it. Nobody should love food but they do and they love it more than their kids.

Healthy eating is not rocket science. It's very simple. Don't eat #%@&!. A lot of people like to complicate it. If it grows eat it. If it is processed don't eat it. Different food grows and is consumed all over the world. In the US the 7th day Adventists and the Amish are healthy and long lived and they eat very different diets. The rural Chinese are also healthy and long lived and they eat the foods that are available.

The healthiest way of eating I know of is CRON and I eat a modified version of it and as I get older I get more into it. Right now I still want to maintain my musculature.

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 Posted: 4 Jul 2012 11:27 am
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i am a woman and i am very visual, my fat spouse is totally disgusting to me. The funniest thing ever is the fact is if i was his weight he would never be attracted to me, so there is one of the first of many double standards they have.

he doesn't understand why i am not attracted to him. their love of food out weighs everything.

And for all the fat guys out there i cock my lil finger at you. it must be a soft lil finger because most have ED.

he never understood why i look at other men, but he knows why they look at me, but did he do anything about his weight, nooooo!

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?é?á


they are not afraid, my estranged husband had bowel cancer and managed to put on 100lbs whilst on chemo, they become more selfish.

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 Posted: 5 Jul 2012 07:14 pm
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There are ways to get a fatling to be less egotistical and self centered but it takes a lot of work and it is not pretty. Keep in mind that fatties are overly self indulgent with food many many times per day. The think they deserve all the gluttonous pleasure. They reinforce that behavior and fattitude aka Fat Attitude.

Their unbridled food lust continues to build momentum until if creates what I call a fattitudninal avalanche or behavioral flabbalanche. When it hits that point there is usually no stopping it. Their super ego has been drowned in a flood of glutton food and their ID goes marching on to the all you can eat buffet.

Intervention is tough because society has normalized obesity and gluttony and most therapists absolve gluttons of any and all personal responsibility.

The chances of a glutton reforming is slime and none. The best way to cure gluttony is to lock them up in a "detox" center and feed them healthy food but doing so would be politically incorrect.

The need contrition. Here is the Catholic Act of Contrition.

O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended You and I detest all my sins, because I dread the loss of heaven and the pains of #%@&!, but most of all because they offend you, my God, who are all good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of your grace, to confess my sins, to do penance and to amend my life.Let's modify it for Gluttons.
The Glutton's Repent

O my family, I am heartily sorry for having disregarded You and I detest all my piggishness, because I dread the loss of You and the pains of strokes, diabetes, heart attack, joint problems, COPD and vasculitis but most of all because they offend you, my family, who are good and deserving of all my love and respect. I firmly resolve, with the help of your patience, to confess my sins of sloth, hedonism and gluttony to do penance and to amend my life.



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 Posted: 13 Aug 2012 08:58 pm
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Hey! It is so nice that you are being loving and supportive. Just make sure that your spouse is not reaching the point where she is at a great risk for diabetes or clogged arteries (among many other health scares). Continue to shower your spouse with love and suppose health, not skinniness!

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 Posted: 14 Aug 2012 12:04 am
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babyen0330 wrote: Hey! It is so nice that you are being loving and supportive. Just make sure that your spouse is not reaching the point where she is at a great risk for diabetes or clogged arteries (among many other health scares). Continue to shower your spouse with love and suppose health, not skinniness!
We really need to focus on gluttony and not deny that it is the chief cause of obesity.

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 Posted: 30 Oct 2012 04:43 pm
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wow

interesting site. Myfatspouse.com

I bet lots of people are frustrated at how fat their partners are :S

Never realised

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 Posted: 19 Nov 2012 06:11 pm
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SamSamson wrote: wow

interesting site. Myfatspouse.com

I bet lots of people are frustrated at how fat their partners are :S

Never realised

My Fat Spouse is a great site!


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