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Lucy New Member 
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Not to step on toes, but with all the confusion and hesitation about joining forces with Strong...why no simply recreate anothe forum, follow the outline of this one, change the name and be on our merry way with what we know and are comfortable with. There are many forums out their that do not cost anything. |
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Nir Senior Administrator 
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I can see where you're coming from - because you've only registered for a few weeks and made 60-odd posts. However, others have a different perpective. For example, I've been hanging around here for 2.5 years, have done a lot of growing up here, and 40% of my posts are in my diary - which I don't want to start afresh. So if all my posts move to a different website, I think I will follow it, rather than go to a brand new blank forum. I guess I'm saying that for me it is more than just an arrangement, a structure of forums and sub-forums |
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mollymoo24 Distinguished Member 
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Yeah, I am concerned about losing my diary, but also my cph friends' diaries as well. I've been here daily for nearly 6 months. We've supported each other in ways well beyond weight loss and it will be a loss if a new forum does not allow us to bring over our history or not everyone 'moves' to the same place. Sure would be nice if we could find out more about their intent rather than sitting here waiting and wondering. |
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EJ33 New Member 
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Does anyone have any idea when the plug will be pulled on the  website? |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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I have asked for information about when the forums will be transferred over. The answer that came back was that they'll get back to me as soon as they have that information. So I guess if they don't know when this will happen, then we cannot know either. However if you are impatient, there is nothing stopping you from registering at strong.com right now |
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jgunn New Member 
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how exactly are the forums going to get transfered over? will all the messages be lost ? i noticed that the forum over there has alot less forum headings so where will al the messages go ? sorry for the questions lol .. im new here and really like alot of the info here :) would hate to see it all go missing ! |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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I also value the existing cotent. The forum at Strong is powered by phpBB (it is the forum from theDailyPlate). Technical note: it is powered by phpBB. The cph forum is powered by wowBB. An interet search reveals that there are apparently no conversion programs currently available to convert wowBB forums to phpBB. Then again, most conversion programs are not designed to merge two forums anyhow. One can hypothesize two possible solutions: one is to move the CPH forums and make them available standalone ( for example strong.com/cphforums ). The other solution would be for the Strong programmers to write custom merge code to merge the CPH forum content into the phpBB forum. I think I would prefer the first option. I'm sure the people in charge at Strong realise that making CPH disappear without porting the content is not an option that existing users will be happy with - it is common sense |
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EJ33 New Member
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Nir, My account on TheDailyPlate was automatically transferred to strong so I have access to that site. But in general I prefer the website.I wondered what type of technical problems would be involved in keeping the current features but with your info on phpBB and wowBB it's clear now.TheDailyPlate site has 506,000 members and the has 3900 members so I can understand why Strong is a little slow to resolve how to handle the conversion of the website.EJ33 |
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Lucy New Member
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Nir wrote: I can see where you're coming from - because you've only registered for a few weeks and made 60-odd posts. Yes, Nir I acknowledge your time, effort, and energy you have put into this site, specifically something as personal as your diary. What if all your posts dont get transferred. I would assume many have already backed up their personal notes. I was merely suggesting an alternate site in the even somthing goes wrong, perhaps, another forum where those whom get lost in the shuffle can go to, and find the right path to the people they are familiar with. Thats just my two cents, and yes I realize my 60 odd posts are not that significant, however, to me there is value in them. |
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mollymoo24 Distinguished Member
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Nir wrote: I also value the existing cotent. A 3rd option is that the forums won't be migrated at all. I hate to think this but they have a lot of priorites in trying to grow the Strong site. Developing custom code to migrate a relatively small number of CPH forum posts from wowBB to phpBB is likely not going to be cost-effective. Having a second BB software platform to maintain is also not going to be cost-effective long term. Now - if one of us could figure out the migration FOR them, I'd say we'd have a better chance of getting them to do it. A 4th option is that we get together and make an offer to buy back CPH. I wonder how much that might cost? Does anyone have the slightest clue? I have no idea how many zeroes would be involved. A 5th option is that they decide they don't want to kill CPH and leave it stand alone and try to grow it on its own merits, which are considerable. I am sure that there are other ideas too. I don't know why I posted all that but I guess I don't have a lot of faith that 1 or 2 is going to materialize and am really really going to feel a huge loss if we lose our little community. |
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celeste New Member
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I know I'm still very new to all of this, but CPH was bought? I don't know all the details but I believe after spending even just the shortest time here, I'd be at a lost if this place where to go away. Where can I find more details on this 'merge' thing? |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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celeste, see these other forum threads: 1) Sale of website to XYZ 2) strong.com Given that arguably one of the most valuable of 's assets is its relatively high Google Rank for such a small player, I'm finding it hard to imagine the business brain that will want it to point at a blank screen.Also, perhaps I am missing someting, but the long-term cost of keeping this forum going is rather trivial - our moderators and admins who keep the forum running are volunteers and the main thing we ask of the people running the server is to have the clock showing the right time (only an issue once every 6 months) |
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Heavenseventeen Distinguished Member 
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I was thinking the same thing. If we could start our own forum somewhere else, but forums moving always loses people along the way. Then again, if they don't post here and have forgotten their accounts then it wouldn't be a great loss anyway. I feel sorry for everyone here who's worried about their diary entries. I'm glad that I posted mine on another fitness site as well as this one. I guess the best option would be to copy and paste all of your entries into Word. It'll take ages but it'll be worth it in the end. If loads of people decide to start their own place, I'm definitely in. It's not hard to do and like the original poster said, it's free. It could be a challenge but I'd be up for it. I'm just angry that we will probably lose a lot or everything but the Dailyplate members hardly lose a thing. Then again seeing that they've got half a million people on there, it's a little understandable but it's still rude. Why buy a community if you intend to destroy it? "Also, perhaps I am missing someting, but the long-term cost of keeping this forum going is rather trivial - our moderators and admins who keep the forum running are volunteers and the main thing we ask of the people running the server is to have the clock showing the right time" I guess for the BIG businesses out there, it's not good enough. It's like no website is safe. For example the closure of Bebo and Tickle. Both huge sites, bought out and now shut down. |
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suenos Distinguished Member 
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I did register at Strong...just cause it seemed prudent...but otherwise I'm taking a "wait and see" mindset...but I admit that I don't really expect that diary entries (like Nir, mine goes back to the begining of 2006) will make the transfer...and the fact that pretty much no information (other than "hi, we're now in partnership, come register") has been offered, and there has been no open communication with CPH members (not required on their part of course, but, in my eyes would be common courtesy), makes me leery about what plans, if any, Strong has for the CPH site other than absorbing the membership numbers, etc.....actually just the dead silence from their part doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling toward Strong...hmm, looking again at MollyMoo's first paragraph about Strong's first priority being to build their site, it strikes me that they didn't/aren't really building a site - just buying other established sites and folding the membership in.... |
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Lex Administrator
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Hi everyone, I'm Lex Friedman. I was a Co-Founder of The Daily Plate, and I'm now the Director of Community for all of STRONG.COM. The questions and concerns you've raised here about what 's future holds are 100% reasonable and understandable.What I can tell you now is that XYZ, as a strategy, tries to merge communities together when it's appropriate to do so. That way, we can devote our resources, expenses, and attention to one site, instead of many. One very unrelated example is our PG-13 humor site, Cracked.com. When we relaunched Cracked, we acquired another site called PointlessWasteOfTime.com that had a similar demographic. We merged PWoT into Cracked slowly, attempting to keep as many original community members as possible satisfied during the process. XYZ really values community, and we took our time with that transition to ensure that the members we were "moving" felt respected and attended to throughout the process. It's our goal to take the same care with the migration. We've already begun the process of integrating The Daily Plate with STRONG.COM, and we have spent many hours working with that community to make sure they realize we're listening.We've been a little quiet here on CPH, and I apologize for that. As more details of the transition become available, I will share them here. Please rest assured you won't wake up one day and be shocked to discover CPH has "Gone Fishin'." We'll keep you informed about what's happening, and keep you in the loop as decisions are made. Hope this helps, and thanks for all your feedback -- it's much appreciated! -Lex |
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mollymoo24 Distinguished Member
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I appreciate hearing from you Lex. |
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Beth Distinguished Member 
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Lex, thanks for the post. I do love The Daily Plate. |
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cportwine Distinguished Member 
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Heavenseventeen wrote: I was thinking the same thing. If we could start our own forum somewhere else, but forums moving always loses people along the way. Then again, if they don't post here and have forgotten their accounts then it wouldn't be a great loss anyway. I feel sorry for everyone here who's worried about their diary entries. I'm glad that I posted mine on another fitness site as well as this one. I guess the best option would be to copy and paste all of your entries into Word. It'll take ages but it'll be worth it in the end. If loads of people decide to start their own place, I'm definitely in. It's not hard to do and like the original poster said, it's free. It could be a challenge but I'd be up for it. Hey, you said about coping and pasting into word. Could you copy and paste to another website? I ask cause I keep a personal diary-not a weight one in my yahoo. If I could copy it to that, it would be prefect. |
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cportwine Distinguished Member
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Ok, I am really bummed. This is the first I have heard about this. So, let me get this strait. This site was sold and the new site is going to charge us? Is that right. Cause have to say, I won't be going if that is the case. I have never went to weight watchers, have never joined a gym, or any of that to lose weight. So, even though I would miss this place, I will not pay for something that I can do on my own. I will just find another forum that doesn't cost. So please someone explain to me what is really going to happen. |
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Lex Administrator
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Hi cportwine, I'm not sure where any "charging" implication could have come from. There are plans to eventually migrate -- the content, tools, and community -- to STRONG.COM, another free site that's loaded with health information and diet tracking.STRONG.COM, like and TheDailyPlate.com, is (and will remain) a free site.As the specific plans get hammered out, we'll share them all with you here. Hope this helps! -Lex |
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cportwine Distinguished Member
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Thanks very much! That makes me feel much better.  I think I got that impression from one of the post, and thought WHAT! So, wanted to get down to the truth of it all. Thanks again, Cindy Last edited on 2 Jul 2008 02:50 pm by cportwine |
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suenos Distinguished Member
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Hi Lex, thanks for the above info concerning the future of CPH....I had the same concerns as cportwine regarding the membership payment isssue...but I think mine came from browsing around on the Strong site and seeing all the comments about Daily Plate members paying for "gold membership" (still not sure what that is) p.s. and thank you Lucy for starting this thread |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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Lex wrote:Please rest assured you won't wake up one day and be shocked to discover CPH has "Gone Fishin'." We'll keep you informed about what's happening, and keep you in the loop as decisions are made. Gosh that was certainly one promise they did not keep. |
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mollymoo24 Distinguished Member
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It's interesting to read back and see that I was only on the boards for 6 months when that happened...now I have been here for 6 years! |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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In a couple of weeks it will be 8 years for me. Nice to have some constants in my life when so much has changed. |
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Diet Coach Distinguished Member
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Don't lose site of the mission. People are eating themselves to death and remain in denial about it. Obesity hurts everyone everywhere. The mission should be to figure out why people can't/don't/won't eat mindfully and responsibly. This undeniable reality gets lost in the minutia. Stop the drivel and focus on the task at hand. Nir has provided a space for us to work on this. WORK! |
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