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AshenShugar
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OK-- I am 34 years old, male, 5'6.  I started at 298 and have dropped to 221 in about 6 months.  I've been working out like a madman and severely restricting caloric intake.  I've made changes in my diet I don't ever intend to reverse.

BUT--I have been noticing some strange emotional effects.  Effects similar to those of the Eating Disorder patients with whom I deal professionally.  The most obvious one is, I'm addicted to hunger.

It's a strange feeling.  Emotionally, the feeling of hunger relieves anxiety.  It reassures me to know that the hungry feeling is active, eating away at the fat cells I have borne my entire life.  On the other hand, the urge to eat is hard-wired into our brains, so I am forced to do it, even if I resist as much as possible.  And I feel anxious when my belly is full.  It makes me want to go workout for 3 hours just to get rid of what I ate.

I also notice that even the THOUGHT of eating certain foods (a cheeseburger, for instance) produces a powerful feeling of revulsion internally.

I suppose this means I have an eating disorder, or am at least working on one.  Any comments?

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Did you read my FAQ on eating disorders?

I was once told by a doctor that if I didn't change my ways I would die. It brings tears to my eyes when I share this with others working to get better.

But it's amazing how we're all so different. I like totally do NOT relate to what you are going through. My compulsion to eat was always like that of an alcoholic... turning to food was my escape from my troubles. But it was never about hunger... which probably explains why I could eat so much even when I wasn't hungry.

Somehow along the way I messed my system up so that I only get a hint of hunger a few times a year. I'm not sure if it's a blessing or just the opposite. I can get busy working at my PC and realize it's 2 pm and I haven't had anything except my morning OJ. All very unhealthy.

What I really liked about my time in OA was hearing all the members share their (very different) stories. I always heard something that helped me.

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I can relate to you, AshenShugar. 100%. I too am addicted to hunger pains, and I often berate myself for allowing myself to be full...when I am full, I feel sick and disgusting, but when my stomach is growling, i feel like I've done something right, and that if I continue down the hunger path, I will soon reach my goals...

AshenShugar
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Kathleenyork,

 

Yes."sick and disgusting" is a good way to put it.  I've found it works that way even if what I ate is insignificant in terms of calories.  For example, today I ate a bulky vegetarian meal that filled me up but had only about 300 calories (it was all I ate today, too).  I still felt uneasy.  It could have only been worse if it had been a double cheeseburger, fries and milkshake for 1500 calories....ugh.  Haven't done THAT in a long time.

Just out of curiosity, I wonder if anyone else has found that severely limiting meat intake causes you to feel physically ill when you do eat something like a hamburger.  The last time I tried it my stomach went ballistic, and it gave me diarrhea as well.

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Ashen, I feel the same as you... I've lost 100 pounds in about 10 months and feel the need to lose about 40 more... I love when my stomach grumbles- it makes me feel strong.  My friends feel I take it too far, but to me, I dont look any different than before I lost the weight.  It really is crazy.  I can't stand being full, I feel weak.  I have started on laxatives to prevent nutrient absorption.  Until I am thin, I don't feel that it is hurting anything.  I can completely identify with you and your issues with food.

I am so busy though that I am finding it difficult to work out as much as I would like. 

In answer to your question about meat, I have been vegetarian for the past 8 years.  After I began to really focus on weight I started to eat fish again- it was uncomfortable at first but my body got used to it.  I think it is the content of fat and minerals that are triggers to the body, not that it is flesh itself.  Soy products have distinct health benefits, though.  Morningstar Farms Grillers and veggie bacon are my favorite.  Low in calories, high in protien.  Only problem is that they do have more sodium than normal meat products so you'll have to increase your water intake. 

This is my first post, so I will close by wishing you luck- I noticed you were from Grand rapids, is that michigan?  I'm from MI also, but am currently in KY.  Have a good one.

flyawayana
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i get that too...... the feeling of hunger is like a wave of relief.. like, whew, im doing something right, im hungry.... and there are days that people will be like. .hey lets go eat there, or here, have some of this and i just want to scream cause of how repulsive the thoght of eating THAT is.

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Ooooh man do I know how you feel. Its amazing what hungey feels like. Everyone is always stuffing themselves feeling full... If they only knew, the world would be less fat...

*cough* Sorry.

Maybe sounds like an ED to me... Or, something similar... 

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Ok, I am going to approach this one as politely as I can, but know that I am making great strides to do so.

Addicted to hunger pains?  You are kidding me right?!  And saying that by other's indulging in this it would make people less fat?  What a joke...though NOT funny!

Ok, I've said this a few times already...I'll say it again...here I go:

Let me ask you...does it seem to you that you gain weight from things that no one else seems to gain weight from?  Or do you feel like you gain weight from things that you shouldn't--like, say, a salad?  Or low-fat something or another?  Well, that is because you really ARE gaining weight, fat mass more specifically!

When you allow your body to feel deprived of food, it goes into SURVIVAL MODE!  This is an inherent gene we all have from our ancestors.  Back in the day, way-way back, man had to sometimes go for long periods of time without food, as a result, the human body became extremely efficient at self-survival by doing a few things--two of of those things are:  slowing down how fast our bodies metabolize nutrients and by storing excess fatty mass.

Each time you "indulge" yourself in this hunger "sensation" that you so seem to enjoy, you are telling your body there is not enough food and you need to fend for yourself!  Your body, in turns, slows your Metabolism down even more.  And then when you DO eat, your stomach (metaphorically) says, "Oh yah!  Sustenance!  Save it!  Save it!  Save it!" and it does.  Your body will, instinctively, extract everything it can and hoard it to the bitter end. 

So, each (and every) time you indulge in this hunger play, you are only making your weight lose more difficult.  You should never allow your body to feel hungry.  Never!

Granted, there are times that it happens unintentionally, like not having the money to buy some food, or not having access to food, or even at work and you just can't get out/away to feed yourself.  That happens, but to intentionally deprive yourself just because...why exactly?  You enjoy how it feels?  You think it works? :question:

(Yah, I've said a few times that I often eat only once or twice a day, but I do not starve myself.  The difference between my plight and ya'lls is I am not hungry--I normally have no hunger pains at all!  I don't go through my day intentionally starving myself--I just am not hungry, and therefore, I don't think about it.)

kathleenyork
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some people are addicted to McDonalds...some people are addicted to hunger pains...

it's not really something i personally can help...i just know that when i haven't given in to food, it causes hunger pains (or when i see a commercial for certain foods, my stomach growls) and it makes me feel strong that i haven't given in to that craving.

keep in mind this is the ED section of the forum...i'm sure everyone who posted, including myself, know the risks and facts of what they are doing and what could happen.

it's like the old me with a McFlurry- sometimes you just don't care.

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I'm glad someone spoke up- in all reality, and as much as i know it was well intentioned, people preaching at me makes me close my ears and eyes.  Empathy is what helps, not grandiosity.


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Yeah. The whole preaching just, does not help.

kathleenyork said it right.

Its a matter of knowing that, the pain in you means you did, and are able to do something most, wont, dont or cant do. Resist food. 

And yeah, the preachers should keep in mind this IS the ED forum.

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I'm away on a trip and very rushed so I didn't even have time to carefully read this topic to see who you are saying is "preaching." But if hearing others opinions bothers you, perhaps this open forum is not the place for you.

You will get all kinds of opinions. Some helpful, some nonsense, and perhaps some even hurtful. It's just the nature of a forum.

Generally speaking all posts are written by someone who has taken time from their busy life to try and help you... however misguided they might be.

Or perhaps if you are like me, sometimes you will hear something that you reject at the time. But years later it may have some meaning to you. We never know where life will lead us.

Best wishes,

Peter:monkey:

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I can not say that I am "addicted" to the hunger pains, but I do know that since I started to cut back on the food and I have started to see results, I welcome the hunger pains.  IMHO, I will take the hunger pains over the "stuffed" feelings associated with overeating any day.  I do find that the hunger pains bring along an edgy feel that somehow wakes me up and keeps me going, as opposed the lethargic sense I get from over-indulgence.

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yea im addicted to hunger pains as well. wen i feel full i feel stressed and anxious. i hate it so much. its like being hungry is being in control. so i have to feel hungry to feel ok.

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There is a balance between hunger pains and feeling stuffed or over full.  Thats is where i am.  I eat five times a day, and I have  gone from a size 14 AU to a size 8 AU  .. i am toned, fit, and strong.  I had a cold the other day, and so I made a huge pot of soup, with veges and beans, and a small amount of steak too.  AND i had two bowls.. full to the top.  I havent felt stuffed for a long time, and eating 5 times a day doesnt really give me much room to feel hunger either.  I am in the middle.. and i hope that all you people that are saying that you like feeling hungry, find that happy medium one day too in your lives..

blessings and good health to you all

 

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This is odd, I somewhat know what your all talking to. I think what is, is that anyone that has really struggled with their weight (not + or - 5 pounds) but someone who has gained over 50-100 pounds in a year gets to a point in which you blame the food you eat. And in a twisted way you begin to hate food and have a discust for it and feel that food is almost a toxin for your body and you want to avoid it at all costs (The twisted thing wasnt meant to be an insult). I can tell you that because I had bad habbits I only ate 1-2 times a day, sometimes nothing. I kept gaining weight. For someone who has always gained weight on anything you do it's a tough thing to swallow that eating more will help.

With that said, we all need to get past this point. I think that is were we all seem to get stuck. I finally told myself that nothing else really worked so what the heck, take the scientific approach and do what has been proven.

It works, I see results, and probably eat more now than I have eaten in my whole life (Except the #%@&! like MCdonalds and soda and candy) Take the leap of faith and trust all of the people who come here to tell you that eating regularly and not letting your body starve is that life long way to fix what you want to fix so much.

Take some of the effort you put into not eating and telling holding your self back from eating and reverse it, try to focus on putting good things into your body, and in the end your body will gladly repay you with weightloss.

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Hello all, 

I'm new here and glad I can "help".  I am a recovering anorexic.  You mentioned the feeling of disgust "even if what I ate is insignificant in terms of calories".  I am not a psychologist so would not diagnose you with an eating disorder but I can say that this is how one thinks.  You become obsessed with food: when you will eat, how much, how will you work it off and you get to a point that even if you eat something healthy, you feel week and disgusted for "giving in" to the hunger.  It's a horrible way to live and a horrible way to feel.

You also asked about stopping eating meat and then being sick when you try again.  This did happen to me. I stopped eating beef as I figured it was all fatty (I was 16 at the time). At my high school graduation a year later, I tried to eat a hamburger and got physically ill.  I was told that you body stops producing the necessary enzymes that break down that food because you stop eating that food.  Not sure if it's true or not but would explain the ill feelings...

PS - talk to someone professionally about your food issues - I swear to you it helps SO much!

PSS - and to be totally honest so I don't feel like a fraud, right now I am enjoying the hunger feeling also... I need to lose about 30 lbs (I just had 2 babies in less than 2 years) and having a feeling of hunger makes me feel a bit powerful... in my smart head I know that I shouldn't be happy to feel hunger pains... it means my body wants food.  It's a bitter battle :(



 

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Hi im new here

And im totally addicted to hunger it feels so good and you watch everyone around you stuff their faces and it gives you more motivation.

 

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Just to give another perspective. Yesterday, amongst other things (my total calories was 2000) I tried to design a very large salad. It had 8 components:
  1. Celery
  2. Chicory
  3. cooked Swede
  4. Cucumber
  5. cooked Runner beans
  6. Leeks
  7. cooked Spinach
  8. Marrow
Each of the components contributed just 12.5 calories, but as you can imagine, it was a very big salad! (12.5 calories of Celery is 178g, 12.5 calories of Cucmber is 125g and so on).

I had to use my 3 litre mixing bowl to mix up the salad. After I had already had quite a bit of it, it still weighed more than 1 kilo and perhaps had volume of 2 litres. It took a long time to eat the salad and it got some way towards my goal (I was trying to see what it would take to make me feel stuffed). Total calories? Yes, just 100.

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Peter wrote: I'm away on a trip and very rushed so I didn't even have time to carefully read this topic to see who you are saying is "preaching." But if hearing others opinions bothers you, perhaps this open forum is not the place for you.

You will get all kinds of opinions. Some helpful, some nonsense, and perhaps some even hurtful. It's just the nature of a forum.

Generally speaking all posts are written by someone who has taken time from their busy life to try and help you... however misguided they might be.

Or perhaps if you are like me, sometimes you will hear something that you reject at the time. But years later it may have some meaning to you. We never know where life will lead us.

Best wishes,

Peter:monkey:

Rightfully said, Peter!!!:cool::grin::thumbsup:

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I have never been addicted to hunger, but I have tried starving myself a long time ago. It just lasted 2 days until I thought I was really harming myself. I was always scared of hunger. If I would feel hungry I would get very desperate and will eat anything. Just to get rid of the desperation. I would wake up starving, I thought I was going to die. And this was when I was bigger and bingeing was a habit. I think it's true that your stomach gets big after bingeing so the next day you are starving. But I have never heard of anyone feeling the way I felt. So I was always afraid of hunger. Now I feel normal hunger about twice a day, maybe once towards the end of the day, since I eat breakfast. I think I understand the addiction to hunger psychologically. I am used to rationalizing addictions and obsessions that I've had. It's so strange and out of this world. I know that it is terrible to hurt yourself, but I'm fascinated by eating disorders. The extremes that people go to out of desperation and anxiety and just how everything is connected, from their upbringing to the media to their own personalities. It almost makes you feel important. I know some anorexics
or super-sized over-eaters see their disorder/body as a work of art. I think it is and I admire their efforts, even if that thought sounds horrible to some. But I also hope that people will somehow find the courage to love themselves enough to not torture themselves. Maybe in some weird way they view torture as love. I hope that doesn't make me sound horrible, but I believe people have a right to treat their own bodies however they want, as long as they aren't hurting anyone else. And I understand that there are people that have a need to reach out to people that are hurting. I understand the need for addiction and obsession. In general I believe people are smart enough and informed enough to know what they are doing to their bodies/lives and they have a right to make their own decisions regarding it. Maybe writing about it is a way of asking for help or being validated by others like them. Or just a way of acknowleding themselves and this part that has a hold on them.

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Nir wrote: Just to give another perspective. Yesterday, amongst other things (my total calories was 2000) I tried to design a very large salad. It had 8 components:
  1. Celery
  2. Chicory
  3. cooked Swede
  4. Cucumber
  5. cooked Runner beans
  6. Leeks
  7. cooked Spinach
  8. Marrow
Each of the components contributed just 12.5 calories, but as you can imagine, it was a very big salad! (12.5 calories of Celery is 178g, 12.5 calories of Cucmber is 125g and so on).

I had to use my 3 litre mixing bowl to mix up the salad. After I had already had quite a bit of it, it still weighed more than 1 kilo and perhaps had volume of 2 litres. It took a long time to eat the salad and it got some way towards my goal (I was trying to see what it would take to make me feel stuffed). Total calories? Yes, just 100.
Hi,

 Just curious to know, did you actually feel stuffed with that salad?

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Probably as much as you can ever be stuffed with salad. I think you need a bit more calories than that to feel truly stuffed. My perspective is that 2 days ago I dined at a buffet and so I have a fresh memory of what it really feels like to be painfully stuffed, and that salad just wasn't it.

Not that I know why I would want that feeling - all you could do is lie down and hope you'll be less stuffed after a few hours. If you don't have access to the facility to lie down (and I didn't) you just suffer the pain and wait

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miss katz wrote: I'm fascinated by eating disorders. The extremes that people go to out of desperation and anxiety and just how everything is connected, from their upbringing to the media to their own personalities. It almost makes you feel important. I know some anorexics
or super-sized over-eaters see their disorder/body as a work of art.  But I also hope that people will somehow find the courage to love themselves enough to not torture themselves. Maybe in some weird way they view torture as love. I understand the need for addiction and obsession. In general I believe people are smart enough and informed enough to know what they are doing to their bodies/lives and they have a right to make their own decisions regarding it. Maybe writing about it is a way of asking for help or being validated by others like them. Or just a way of acknowleding themselves and this part that has a hold on them.

Dear wonderful, beautiful miss katz:
I, too, am fascinated with eating disorders. I always have been. Probably because I am recovered from an eating disorder...actually, all three (ana, mia and OE). They were my friends, my lifeline in a world that was too hard for me to find a place in. I had a husband, children, a job, and my ED. Everything but the ED went to the wayside. It was first and foremost in my life. I kept it a secret for so many years from everyone, until one night, one of the many nights my ex didn't come home, I had to call my mother to come and get me off of the floor because I had overdosed on laxatives and had lost consciousness. No one can ever know how embarrasing it is, at 33 years old, to call their mother and ask for her to come get you up off of the floor because you can't get up yourself. No one, unless you have been there, will know what it feels like to have to turn around when you are on your way to take your child to a soccer game to change your pants because you didn't time your laxatives right.  After years and years of turning to or away from food to make me have some control over my own life, I finally turned inward to see myself. And I hated it. I hated me. I hated what I had become in order to deal with things that shouldn't ever happen to anyone. And in an instant, I knew I had to do something. I feared my children finding me dead in a pool of blood from a ruptured esophagus; I feared my daughter would see her mom with an ED and think it was okay. I remember when I was in full-blown ED I would stand outside of the bathroom door, straining to hear her to make sure that she wasn't throwing up. It was the fear of the ED itself. I am a very, very rational person. I am in college studying for my PhD in cancer genetics. I am not an irrational person. I knew I would die from the ED but for a long, long time (20 years) I didn't care. Now I do. We don't see our bodies as works of art. We hate our bodies. We wish that we could just leave our bodies and be nothing more than a soul walking around. We are never good enough. We want to be invisible. No one with a true ED views their body as anything more than something that is necessary, and even then, we don't think it's necessary. That's why we cut, pinch, and hit ourselves, just to feel something; just to know that we are alive. Writing about it does help, it makes me realize how glad I am, most of the time, that I no longer need to control my life with food. I am OCD, as most ED's are. I had a troubled childhood. I never felt like I lived up to the standards that were put on me, or I always thought that I had to surpass them.

I am truly, truly sorry for this long posting. This isn't all I wanted to say, but I do want to say one thing. People blame the media constantly on EDs. Being a "recovered" (for what that means) ED, it is not the media, per se, but people's take on the media. The media does not make people believe/see/think what they do. People chose to blame the media because they are unable to realize that it is just an outlet for free speech. No one should blame the media, but instead, let's blame the people who view the media as the "know-all" in every aspect-from body image to the perfect relationship. If we could step back and just look around us, we would realize that we, as a society, rely too much on what other people tell us what is right and wrong instead of using the common sense that God gave us to make up our own minds.

Good luck to all of you in your journey to not losing weight, but being healthy again and happy. I hope I have not totally bored any of you or made you mad at me, but I had to say something, albeit winded, on a subject that I am all too familiar with.


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" We don't see our bodies as works of art. We hate our bodies. We wish that we could just leave our bodies and be nothing more than a soul walking around. We are never good enough. We want to be invisible. No one with a true ED views their body as anything more than something that is necessary, and even then, we don't think it's necessary. That's why we cut, pinch, and hit ourselves, just to feel something; just to know that we are alive."

wow trohmansgirl, I forgot about this. It made me so sad to remember the real reason why people do this, because I have felt this way too. Wanting to be invisible and hating myself.  Sadness has always been viewed as romantic and/or a work of art. You are right about the media and it being an outlet for free speech. It's the people that react to it, but individuals need to realize the power they have to directly or indirectly influence another person. The people in the media as well as all of us have a responsibility to the world to not encourage negativity and negative viewpoints. There is a problem with the media, but of course it boils down to the people that view it and create it. We can think for ourselves, but we are programmed to react and that almost means surviving. People seek out leaders and someone to tell them, so I believe it's important to have good leaders in media and out. I don't believe half of what the media says, or what society says, but the other half I choose to believe because I fear being disconnected from the human race and I fear not knowing. The media to me is a form of entertainment and learning. I rather know half the truth than nothing at all. If I blame the media I am blaming the people that use their power of influence in a destructive way. Most of us wouldn't be on this forum if it weren't for the media. I do like your viewpoints and thank you for sharing them. I am not bored at all :)

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I hope I didn't offend anyone; my postings are never, ever meant to do that. I just don't ever want anyone to think that drastically restricting calories, or overexercising, or purging is ever, EVER a good idea to lose weight. Like I said before, I am all-too-familiar with this.

As we are talking about sadness in art, let us also not forget about the human body in art. As we remember during the Renaissance period, women, and I mean women who looked like women, not like sticks with a styrofoam ball stuck on top, were beautiful. Everyone wanted to paint women. Now, if you look at the media, how old are these girls? Isn't there a new rule going into effect that the models have to be 21 now? Isn't it about time????

One more thing...if no one has seen Dove's new ad, I encourage you to go to their website. There are 5 or 6 women, all 50+, who bared it all (and I mean bared it ALL) for Dove in their new ad. My favorite lady is the African-American lady who, when asked about her "fat rolls" (that was exactly the word used), said that "no, I love my rolls. It's what makes me a woman". She's my hero. :heart:

Enjoy your Saturday! :rainbow:

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unlike most of you in here, i am addicted to the hunger feeling not because im uncomfortable with my body.I'm hapy with my body really i am. it reminds me im still alive.

I have severe depression and of course having this means i am constantly sad and upset. some people have their comfort food. When i am upset i cant eat,i cant even look at food.most of the time ill take a walk during lunch.i wish i could eat, i just havnt eaten much to where i can overlook the cry of hunger.

im always sad and crying and cant eat or sleep. and i welcome the hunger pains because it reminds me that i am still alive,it reminds me that i have people to live for.even when all hope is lost(or so i feel).

im only 16 and im really trying to overcome this because it is so unhealthy for my body.

but i just cant make myself eat.toda i forced myself to have 3 nibbles of a bagel.

its not just food i neglect its drink as well.

 

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minischloths12 wrote: im really trying to overcome this because it is so unhealthy for my body.
 

Great! Have you talked to a school counselor about it?

It helps so much to talk to someone.

Peter:monkey:

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no, but i told my mom what is going on and she reckons its my medication for my depression and all my other ones i take creating some type of chemical inbalance. i believe some of the dosage is way to much for me. im going to the doctor soon.

 

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I am also addicted to hunger. But I notice my restriction follows other things going on in my life. If I am depressed, I just start becoming obsessed with my weight and begin restricting. It's almost as if I want to see myself suffer.

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I think I am the opposite of this----I can't stand feeling hungry, mainly because if I don't eat for long periods of time, I get headaches......I have several friends who have communicated this to me (that they like the hunger pangs) because it makes them feel thin, and they all have eating disorders. I think that if I felt that way, I would be 30 lbs lighter....but not necesarily healthier.

On the other hand, I do sometimes feel guilty if I over-eat and feel full rather than just satisfied, because I know that I have just stretched out my stomach. Luckily, I've never gone and "done something" about it (no vomiting).

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Hi, I know this post is really old but I thought that I could be helpful.
When we get hungry our brain produces the chemical, Ghrelin which stimulates Dopamine to be produced (this is the happiness hormone) so we literally get a high off being hungry.
So you're most likely slightly addicted to Ghrelin - it's an amazing feeling :)

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I just start becoming obsessed with my weight and begin restricting. It's almost as if I want to see myself suffer.

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If you are weight conscious or obsessed with weight, then you need to eat right, instead of restricting yourself. Your daily diet should include lots of fruits and vegetables, and you must eat at least 5 times a day. Eating healthy food (plenty of fruits and veggies) in small quantities multiple times a day has three benefits; a) you won?óÔé¼Ôäót feel hungry, 2) your calorie intake reduces, and 3) the body metabolic rate improves.
I know it is not easy to change one?óÔé¼Ôäós lifestyle all of a sudden, that?óÔé¼Ôäós why you need to follow a good diet plan and train your body and mind to eat right, eat less, and eat often. I started with 21 days to slim diet plan and General Motors Diet.
In case anyone else is not in agreement with my point, and have better plan kindly let me know.

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You may find that your serving dimensions are major you to eat more calorie consumption than you realize. Research has shown that people accidentally eat more calorie consumption when experienced with bigger sections. This can mean extreme nutrient consumption, especially when eating high-calorie foods.

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AshenShugar wrote: OK-- I am 34 years old, male, 5'6.  I started at 298 and have dropped to 221 in about 6 months.  I've been working out like a madman and severely restricting caloric intake.  I've made changes in my diet I don't ever intend to reverse.

BUT--I have been noticing some strange emotional effects.  Effects similar to those of the Eating Disorder patients with whom I deal professionally.  The most obvious one is, I'm addicted to hunger.

It's a strange feeling.  Emotionally, the feeling of hunger relieves anxiety.  It reassures me to know that the hungry feeling is active, eating away at the fat cells I have borne my entire life.  On the other hand, the urge to eat is hard-wired into our brains, so I am forced to do it, even if I resist as much as possible.  And I feel anxious when my belly is full.  It makes me want to go workout for 3 hours just to get rid of what I ate.

I also notice that even the THOUGHT of eating certain foods (a cheeseburger, for instance) produces a powerful feeling of revulsion internally.

I suppose this means I have an eating disorder, or am at least working on one.  Any comments?

Starvation diets don't work.

It sounds to be like you need a Rational Emotive Therapist. Clearly your reaction to a cheeseburger is irrational and I would guess it is the projection of a free floating anxiety.

You probably have OCD and that probably why you became morbidly obese hand why you are starving yourself and doing Herculean workouts. Now you are obsessed with not being fat.

OCD can respond to psycho therapy with the right therapist but to the best of my knowledge medication works fairly well. If you can beat it without meds that would be ideal.  Try meds short term perhaps?

I don't take a whole lot of stock in the notion of eating disorders per se. I think ED's are overly diagnosed and what are called ED are a manifestation of OCD and or free floating anxiety that are NOT psychological or emotional but rather organic in origin.

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AshenShugar wrote: Kathleenyork,

 

Yes."sick and disgusting" is a good way to put it.  I've found it works that way even if what I ate is insignificant in terms of calories.  For example, today I ate a bulky vegetarian meal that filled me up but had only about 300 calories (it was all I ate today, too).  I still felt uneasy.  It could have only been worse if it had been a double cheeseburger, fries and milkshake for 1500 calories....ugh.  Haven't done THAT in a long time.

Just out of curiosity, I wonder if anyone else has found that severely limiting meat intake causes you to feel physically ill when you do eat something like a hamburger.  The last time I tried it my stomach went ballistic, and it gave me diarrhea as well.

When someone stops eating fatty foods than then goes back to them they lack the enzymes to break down the fat so the developing dumping syndrome. Also animal fats are unhealthy and your body is rebelling.

As to your starvation dieting, if you keep it up for more than few months you WILL develop ketogenic psychosis which is irreversible.