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Madeleine
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Posted: 10 May 2005 07:20 am |
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Is it true that exercise helps to reduce weight? Some evidence suggests that exercise is not effective at promoting weight loss. But I am not agreeing with this. According to pillslim.com exercise is the main factor to reduce weight loss. Am I right? Some says that Diet is also a key factor of weight reduction. Yes It is true but to the certain extent. Of course diets work! It temporarily reduce your weight...nothing more. So why do you always gain the weight back? This is because we are confused between overeating, dieting, and overeating again. The problem isn't that diets don't work. The problem is that no one wants to learn how to eat properly to not get fat in the first place!
Any ideas about it :(
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Maria
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Posted: 10 May 2005 10:51 pm |
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Hello,
If you walk at last half mile every day, and cut on sugars ?σΤιΌΤΗ£ BIOSLIM is well ahead of any of this formulas you see on the market. Unlike most of BS out there, bioslim.com teaches you that there is no such thing as miracle pill and helps you loose that big as you keep dragging around all-you-can-eat places all the time.
Best,
Maria
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Dryad
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Posted: 12 May 2005 03:37 am |
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Changing your eating habits usually causes you to lose more weight right away than exercise, but exercise is a better predictor of keeping that weight off.
I agree that it's better to just learn how to eat healthy in the first place, rather than use specific diets. But sometimes diets (healthy ones!) can help people get started with figuring out how to eat healthy.
Both eating healthy and getting enough exercise are important to overall heath, any way you cut it. You might not work on starting both at the same time, but you have to have both as your ultimate goal.
AJ
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Spaz Cadet
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Posted: 12 May 2005 04:14 pm |
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I have never lost weight by diet alone. Exercise is just such a fundamental part of health and weight control.
I can't see how exercise could possibly reduce weight loss. I would be extremely skeptical of anyone who said exercise wasn't a key player in weight loss and maintenance. I would wonder what they are selling. Besides hope.
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seaturtleblues04
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Posted: 10 Jun 2005 08:44 pm |
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Don't beleive it!! When my husband and I moved from Miami, I weighed 145 lbs. I had one child and quit my job to move... I didn't start work right away when we got to where we were going (our home town in central Florida). I am 5'7" & I was 19 years old at the time and it was the most I ever weighed (at that time) even during pregnancy. So when I was settled in my new house I bought a few excersize books (Tony Little Whole Body Workout and a book called "Crunch" it was all ab crunches over 100 ways to them) and used them. I created a routine that would last 2 hours and include a whole body work out. I did 2005 crunches in intervals through out the routine. I did this every single day. I DID NOT CHANGE THE WAY I ATE - NOT ONE BIT!! I found myself eating less the more and more I worked out. 4 months later I went to the doctor and found out I was 6 wks pregnant and weighed 112 pounds - 6 months later I found out I was having twins. Since then I have had 3 more kids - the twins and one more. My last two pregnancies I have given birth by c-section and can't seem to lose the belly fat my youngest is 2 and oldest is 11... I haven't the energy nor the time to do what I did before! Those were the days!! But the point is EXCERSIZE is always good... and if you work hard enough I know for a fact you don't have to change your eating habits - it's probably better that you do... but I didn't. Now I weigh 182 and have found myself comfortable with it most of the time- once in a while I have those "Oh my god I am such a fat freiken cow -boo hoo waaaahhhhhh" days!!! but hey don't we all?? So good luck on your journey! Last edited on 10 Jun 2005 08:49 pm by seaturtleblues04
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junebug
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Posted: 10 Jun 2005 09:33 pm |
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Hey there Miss Seaturtle
Wow, 112 was mighty slim for a lady of 5'7"!! But I must say, during times of great stress, and younger days, I have dropped under 100. Only a few years ago I weighed 104 and I am 5'4". Many people asked what was wrong with me, was I sick? Yes indeed I was, sick from stress. But now I have learned to manage that stress to a degree, but I still find myself "off food" if I am stressed out.
I am glad to see you here. Evidently you are having one of those "I am so freakin fat" days or you wouldn't have registered here with Peter's great website. If you are serious about losing weight, this site will help you with that. Just journaling your calories in/out will help greatly, because you will see where you need to make changes. Welcome to the forum!!
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srv524
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Posted: 19 Jun 2005 03:04 am |
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Exercises burns calories
Less calories consumed AND more calories burned
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weight loss
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Avaa
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Posted: 22 Jun 2005 10:39 am |
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I think a healthy diet , balanced & lots of water daily... stay clear of the scales and use your clothing to feel the weight loss... exercise 30 min a day or even 4 days a week will help! we know that 3500 cal deduction per week loses one pound. that is just cutting your daily diet by 500 calories.
I don't even do the big Xmas meals or other holiday meals.. I just quit it! it is natural for most humans to gain at least 10 pounds in the winter months for our survival... those pounds usually drop off as soon as spring hits and a human can get out and about again. So why add to trouble! I just make a regular nice meal with very little fattening style foods nor do we feed ourselves like pigs either!!! We kind of treat it like a regular meal day.
I hope I helped a bit.
I am on slim fast right now.. it is working and they made one now that is lower in sugars.
good luck
never give up.. O yeah one tip.. keep a full length mirror in your living room.. every time you pass it look at yourself. I was a hairdresser for years and I might be 20 pounds overweight when I would start a job.. and within 2 months that weight was off.. why? I had to look at myself in the mirror every single day of work... I did not like what I had to look at so I would eat less.. not really diet.. just eat less.. I think most folks who are fat... only look at their faces in the mirror... avoiding the parts that bother them the most... stand naked in front of the mirror and face yourself.. then and only then can you make a fair judgement of your body and what you want it to look like.
We also know that DNA has a lot to do with our body types and sometimes there isn't anything we can do about certain parts of our bodies..
we can only improve the positive and let go of the negative.. and accept ourselves for who we are and how hard we have worked to be all that we can be!
Sincerely a new member
Avaa
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RobbiedPTS
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Posted: 23 Jun 2005 02:08 am |
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Madelene
I have learned that exercise is necessary for good health. The current prescription is at least 30 minutes of moderately intense exercies, most days of the week. Thelegacywebsite.com shows for me that amounts to 160 calories which over a month is 1 1/3 pounds. Moreover, it lowers the risk of heart disease, reduces resting heart rate - mine is below 60 bpm and am over 60 - it normalizes BP and improves the ability to do activities of daily living.
If I cut out 200 calories from my diet, the equivalent of two pieces of bread, I should be down another pound in a month. I eat a lot; I overeat every once in a while but it is fresh fruits and veggies, not cake and ice cream. You can eat of lot of veggies, feel full and consumer only a couple of hundred calories. 10 cups of lettuce is only 55 calories, according to thelegacywebsite.com. Cucumber is even better.
Trying to use exercise to lose large amounts of weight quickly is a muggs game. Make it a health issue, a prescription for living.
RobbiedPTS
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down2me
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Posted: 20 Jul 2005 02:31 am |
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| ;)Eat right and work out!! eat right and work out!!! I keep telling myself these two things I find I do one or the other or sometimes I don't do either:(.I keep pressing I'll get it right one day down2me just checking in
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moya99
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Posted: 2 Aug 2005 01:26 pm |
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down2me wrote: ;)Eat right and work out!! eat right and work out!!! I keep telling myself these two things I find I do one or the other or sometimes I don't do either:(.I keep pressing I'll get it right one day down2me just checking in down2me....I like your "handle"!!:D Ultimatly it is down to all of us to take the first freakin steps to do this. I hate being fat. I just spent an hour looking up plastic sergeons in my area. If I won the lottery, I would go in a SECOND for a tummy tuck. Then after that I would get lipo for the rest of the areas! But we bearly play the lottery so that's not gonna happen. SO I guess it is down to me..... this sucks.
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Aisling
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Posted: 23 Mar 2006 07:33 pm |
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Whether it helps you lose weight or not -- exercise.
It can only improve your health, and as nice as it is to look trim shouldn't good health really be the point?
Don't limit exercise to "exercise" time. Take the stairs, walk to the store (if possible, or park as far away as you can), ride your bike to the library! Try to put as much motion into your day as possible. Stretch (have you ever noticed how often our pets stretch during the day?) It is suprising how much more energetic and relaxed yoy'll feel, even though you may be carrying around a bit of weight.
Mind you all of the above assumes no mobility issues (ie: athritis, broken bones, etc)
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NevD
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Posted: 24 Mar 2006 06:20 pm |
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I've never seen any studies that suggested exercise didn't help weight loss. It just can't be effective on its own (as my own decades of over-exercising while overeating prove).
As part of a proper program, exercise ensures that, when you've lost the weight, you're also in good shape (that is, shapely). If you do it the wrong way and waste your muscles, you will end up lighter in weight - but you won't be pleased with how you look.
Please don't give up exercising, but alternate weights with cardio for better results.
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corrie
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Posted: 2 May 2006 11:59 am |
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Exercise alone does virtually nothing when it comes to weight loss, and even when coupled with eating right, it's still second fiddle. (And note I said "weight loss", not weight maintenance, or cardio health, or toning...all of which exercise is essential). It's the reduction of caloric intake that has the most profound, and rapid, effect.
Burning 350 calories during a 45 minute cardio is no challenge for a double Whopper w/ fries. The formula is simple and resounding: burn more calories than you consume. And what takes us five minutes to scarf down can take us 2 hours to burn off.
You simply can't burn enough calories from working out if you're overeating, unless you have time and energy to hit the gym for 6 hrs/day. And if you have that kind of determination, why not use it to simply not eat so much?
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Peter
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Posted: 3 May 2006 04:56 am |
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Corrie,
I wholeheartedly agree with your point that exercise will not solve the problem of eating poorly. How many times have we seen someone eat dessert -- say cherry pie ala mode at 1400 calories -- and say they'll go to the gym after work and burn it off. Not likely! I even make this point in my tutorial.
But I think it's overstated to say that "exercise does virtually nothing."
Assuming that your food stays the same, you could start going for a nice daily walk, burning 250 calories, and you'd lose 26 pounds over a year. That's not "virtually nothing."
Peter
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corrie
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Posted: 3 May 2006 11:44 am |
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I suppose doing the math, yes, technically that's true. I'm speaking more from a "real world" scenerio standpoint, if you will.
I don't think I've ever met a person who'd lost weight by simply adding a bit of exercise to their daily routine. I have, however, known dozens of people who join a gym, buy a treadmill...whatever...and lo and behold! Still don't lose weight.
The vast majority of people see exercise as how you put it: trying in vain to undo damage they've inflicted by over indulging. Most people think: I walked for an hour, now I can treat myself. Or "oh, I was good at the gym this week...Bring on the Becks!!!" That's why I stress to people to not see exercise as a way to lose weight...because almost everyone (especially just starting out) is looking for an excuse to keep on eating. Remember why people are overweight to begin with.
ALL DUE RESPECT: In reality, I still think that exercise alone does virtually nothing for people when trying to lose weight...But I will add that coupled with reducing caloric intake, it can definitely help push things along. I know it did for me. (but again, going from consuming 2500 cals/day to 1500 is what did it....the 300 I burned/day was a nice boost, but unnecessary for the ultimate weight loss).
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Peter
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Posted: 4 May 2006 04:43 am |
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BTW, have you seen my other website?
http://www.eatwellandexercise.com/
Peter
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Lori
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Posted: 4 May 2006 08:33 am |
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The only way you would "gain" weight with exercise is if you were to build muscle. Mind you most cardio doesnt build a lot of muscle but I did seem to plateau at one point, but my clothes well telling me different. Excercise is a great way to get a healthy heart and tone up those thighs and tummys. If exercise makes you gain weight but your toned and healthy on the inside, who cares what the scales say.. definately not me..
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Skipperdox
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Posted: 4 May 2006 06:28 pm |
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Muscle mass burns calories more efficiently while at rest, too. I don't see a problem with muscle development. Muscle tissue is denser than fat tissue and is therefore pound-for-pound smaller in volume.
This is why body builders and many other athletes will be overweight or obese according to BMI, but will have little actual body fat. I have a friend who runs marathons and is very wiry, but falls into the overweight category.
I used to think I could just diet without exercise and be thin. I now realize I want to be lean and healthy. I need exercise to meet these goals. People who exercise experience less osteoporosis, too.
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corrie
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Posted: 4 May 2006 06:34 pm |
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All true!
I hope I didn't come across as anti-exercise. It's imperative to overall health and slimness!
My husband is only 5'6 and weighs 175, and according to BMI, he's almost obese. He's broad-shouldered and pure muscle and can press 300lbs. He says he'd like to take two of the guys that came up with that scale and do arm curls with them. LOL!
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NevD
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Posted: 4 May 2006 06:37 pm |
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Yes -
BMI = Basically Meaningless Information (not always, but often enough)
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Peter
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Posted: 5 May 2006 05:42 am |
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Skipperdox wrote: People who exercise experience less osteoporosis, too.
Weight bearing exercise. Swimming is wonderful for many reasons, but it doesn't build strong bones.
Peter
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Skipperdox
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Posted: 5 May 2006 06:25 pm |
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Yes, I meant to point that out.
Bone mass, like muscle mass can be "use it or lose it"!
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RobbiedPTS
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Posted: 8 May 2006 02:52 am |
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Peter, I understand the concept of weight bearing exercise to build and maintain bones. However, according to the Osteoporosis Society, recent evidence indicates that it is the action of muscle pulling on bone that helps build and maintain bones. Weight bearing can contribute and add to the effect of exercise. Running may build more bone but not that much more than water exercise.
Swimming and aquafit are excellent exercises to expend energy and add to bone mass.
RobbiedPTS
Last edited on 8 May 2006 02:55 am by RobbiedPTS
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Peter
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Posted: 8 May 2006 05:16 am |
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RobbiedPTS,
Thanks for the update. I just looked with Google, and internet sources are far behind this new information.
Peter
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RobbiedPTS
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Posted: 9 May 2006 02:08 am |
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Peter
Thank you for your response.
You will find this information in a manual published by Osteoporosis Canada, called Break Through to Better Bone Health.
On page 23 the manual said that " increased load over time increases bone density." Physicial activity places a "load" on our bones. In the supporting material, the manual goes on to say "exercises for osteoporosis focus on strengthening the large muscles"... using resistance training. Water is resistance training; so are resistance bands free weights and other equipment. We call water "liquid weights".
The manual recommends low impact aerobic activity for people who actually have the disease since high impact activity can contribute to fractures. Finally, the manual states" there is little scientific evidence to support walking as an activity that helps build bones" although it contributes to fitness and health in other ways.
Your website and this forum is such and excellent resource. Thank you
Regards
RobbiedPTS
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Coopr
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Posted: 9 May 2006 02:23 pm |
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Here is my take on the whole thing.
1st. Doesn't for every pound of lean muscle your body burns an additional 50 cals a day? Multiply that by 10 pounds of muscle over a week=3,500 that's more than 1 day of cals burned by doing noting. (This is what I have been told by several people correct me if I'm wrong)
I think it may be possible that exercise may not loose weight but you will loose inches, loose fat and gain lean muscle which in turn will burns more calories without you doing anything all day(Except working out to gain the lean muscle which also burns cals). The only way to get the lean muscle is exorcise. So I feel very strong that the only way to keep it off is they both go hand in hand, a good diet and exercise.
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corrie
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Posted: 10 May 2006 01:40 pm |
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I don't know about the actual numbers, but it's true that if you lift weights, you will burn more energy by simply watching the grass grow.
I personally have little time to work out during the week, so I opt to do two 25 minute weight sessions (Tues. and Thurs) over lunch. I find that I benefit more from a weight workout than I do from a cardio anyway and if I had to choose between only being able to do one or the other, I'd go with the weights. Besides, when you're going from one machine to the next with little break, your heart gets pumping pretty good...which is a cardio in and of itself, so you're sort of doing both anyway.
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