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flyawayana
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Posted: 20 Sep 2005 04:41 pm |
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i dance ballet. so, i have to be skinny. i CANT STAND those skinny girls who do NOTHONG to maintain their weight.. they are just "blessed with a perfect body"
ugh, makes me so mad cause while they are being blessed by the perfect body gods, i am working my #%@&! off, practicing, dieting, starving, obsessing over working out and what im dieting, weighting myself, trying to be #%@&!ing perfect.
now, i love dance. dont get me wrong. but how come ALL and EVERY one of my efforts have gone straight to #%@&! for weight loss. currently, ive lost 10 pounds agian, its better. i still want to lose 20 more pounds. im not telling my current stats cause i'll just get yelled at for "wanting to lose so much" you have to be in the dancing world to understand that verging on underweight IS normal.
i dontknow why im telling anyone any of thise. venting i supposed. man, i havent posted on here in a long time either, and i think last i posted i was "recovering" well to #%@&! with that concept.
right, im not bitter.
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Dancerthin
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Posted: 5 Oct 2005 07:13 pm |
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How I feel like I wrote what your post said!! I know exactly how you feel. I work so hard and count EVER calorie and know exactly how many calories i burn a day BUT it just does NOT add up I burn 4X the calories I eat. You would think I would be a walking stick by now but NO!
It makes me so depressed maybe its birth-control? or stress ( the stress of not loosing weight!!!!!!!!!)
Just had to let you know I understand
XOXO
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kathleenyork
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Posted: 4 Nov 2005 03:10 am |
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| I definitely know how you guys feel...it's so frustrating when people come by it naturally and don't have to slave for it...and doesn't it always seem like it the least deserving girl who can eat whatever she wants, never work out and still be tiny? I get so jealous of those types, I've never been able to eat whatever I wanted.
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NevD
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Posted: 4 Nov 2005 01:14 pm |
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flyawayana -
I don't have any idea what your regime is like, but I thought I'd throw in a suggestion?σΤιΌ?ͺ
Vary things a bit.
I know that most people I train for fat loss just want results the quickest way possible, so if a 500 calorie a day deficit is good, then a 1500 deficit must be 3 times as good?σΤιΌ?ͺ.
?σΤιΌ?ͺ Except that, things don't work out that way.
If you starve your body, it responds (eventually for some, pretty soon for others) by storing fat however few calories you eat, because it's switched to 'famine mode'.
If you mix things up every few days (i.e. eat your 'maintenance level' of calories or a bit above) and then return to your regime, you can fool the body into not throwing that famine switch.
Unfortunately, if you've been 'at it' with a strict regime for a long enough period, you have to spend some time coaxing your metabolism back out of famine mode, before you can start up the 'mix things up' approach I mentioned earlier.
It's a tricky one, and I know it's hard to accept, because I spend some time almost every week trying to explain this to someone I'm advising. But I can at least refer them to others who have tried my approach and succeeded. That's possible face-to-face, but tricky over the Internet.
However, this advice is offered in good faith (and I hope it makes sense).
And just to underline the point, I eat 6 times a day, work out for only for 8 minutes or so, vary my calorie intake about every 4 days, and maintain body fat at 10% instead of the 30%+ that it once was. And I'm not starving myself, so I can happily play tennis, cycle etc. better than I could when I was younger and fatter.
So I hope I can claim to 'practise as I preach'.
Wishing you well with your efforts,
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smallfry
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Posted: 10 Nov 2005 04:36 pm |
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I know what you mean about hating skinny people... a few months ago, a good friend of mine who is tiny, like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds, saw me drinking a coke, and with this snide expression, said "Do you think you need that?"... like that one pop was going to put me into an early grave... Since she had just had a baby, and still looked like a stick, I had a very hard time not breaking her in half and stuffing her in the dispenser slot of the pop machine... good thing i like the baby....
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Peter
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Posted: 10 Nov 2005 04:51 pm |
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That's not very nice but it's funny! :D
Peter
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Aryn
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Posted: 12 Nov 2005 02:40 am |
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I know how you feel small fry. Sometimes people can be so ignorant. Something that I noticed is that when I was heavier, skinny people would constantly talk about how fat they were all the time. It really made me feel awkward when I was obviously much larger than anyone else in the group. In one particular incident I was in a car with 3 other girls. I was size 16 and they were all about a size 4 that were talking about being fat and needing to loose weight. Nobody said anything directly about me or my weight and I was just really quiet and didn't say anything. I felt humiliated and just wanted to crawl into a hole and die. The funny thing is that now that I have lost some weight I don't ever hear any of those skinny people talking like that. Were they just trying to make me feel bad on purpose?
Another time a close friend (who wore a size 1) was helping me shop for a bathing suit. She picked up this suit that was a size 10 and said, "Oh my God. This is huge. A person would have to be a really fat cow to have to wear a bathing suit this big." A little bit later she said, "This bathing suit would look really good on you. What size did you need?" I just walked off to another rack and pretended like I didn't hear her. There was no way after that comment that I was going to tell her I wore a size 16.
I think that too many people just speak without thinking. When someone says something ignorant like that I just tell myself that I might be fat but at least I get enough calories to allow my brain to function properly.
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Ente
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Posted: 17 Nov 2005 01:00 pm |
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Size 1. Woah. When I dropped to US size 8-10 three years ago I was borderline too thin for my own taste. Just goes to show again different strokes for different folks :)
I have no job pressure to be super slender and can allow myself to balance out whereever I feel good (just managing that is a challenge!), but I sympathize very much with those who are exposed to an immense work or peer pressure on their figure. You got my highest respect for working so hard on living healthy AND meeting the standards AND not giving up despite watching others who have an easier time with their diet. But who knows, I bet there are other things they don't have an easy time with...
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Posted: 15 Dec 2005 05:40 pm |
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smallfry wrote: I know what you mean about hating skinny people... a few months ago, a good friend of mine who is tiny, like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds, saw me drinking a coke, and with this snide expression, said "Do you think you need that?"... like that one pop was going to put me into an early grave... Since she had just had a baby, and still looked like a stick, I had a very hard time not breaking her in half and stuffing her in the dispenser slot of the pop machine... good thing i like the baby.... ROTFL!:P
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Chocoholic
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Posted: 16 Jan 2006 07:21 pm |
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| Aryn, I'm sure they didn't mean it. They probably really were dissatisfied with their own bodies and were so absorbed in the thought of how fat they (in their own minds) were that they didn't even think about how it would make you feel. They should have been more thoughtful, but I doubt they were deliberately trying to make you feel bad.
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vanessa
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Posted: 20 Feb 2006 07:07 am |
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| lol yes me too i have a 18 year old sister she is very slim she never works out eats what ever she wants shes like 110 pounds im 145 and i must have a slow motapelism sad tho do you guys no how i can lose fat fast make her real jelouse lol xxxxxxx
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bigkihap
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Posted: 7 Mar 2006 11:56 am |
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I second that. I had a friend in highschool who could eat ANYTHING, and he didn't gain an ounce. Two double quarter pounders, super sized with coke, then later two whole party pizzas. I made the comment to him, "Dude, I'm getting fatter just watching you eat. That's your secret isn't it?" He still has a washboard stomach, but probably isn't in good shape because he doesn't exercise. Crazy metabolisms.
I also remember reading a story about a guy who ran cross-country, and got special permission to eat all day during the season. This guy would pack down 9000+ calories a day, and STILL look like a purging supermodel at the end of the season. This guy could hardly keep weight on.
So I guess there is a swing side to being habitually skinny. But it would make life a whole lot easier for most of us if we didn't have to work so hard to keep of the flab.
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Posted: 11 Mar 2006 10:51 am |
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My housemate weighs around 110, he does no exercise whatsoever, all he eats is crisps, bacon, sausages, chips, pizza and take-away. (No veg or fruit!)
Sometimes when I'm in the kitchen eating my tiny portions of crackerbread and salad I wonder if its worth putting myself through this, because I'm not getting anywhere or losing any weight. :(
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Aisling
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Posted: 23 Mar 2006 09:27 pm |
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flyawayana wrote:
i dance ballet. so, i have to be skinny. ...
you have to be in the dancing world to understand that verging on underweight IS normal.
I know what you mean, you've got to be thin to be dance ballet, especially professionally. (that's why I like belly dancing, you're allowed to be voluptious)
But it makes me wonder, since you don't show your stats, are you as overweight as you feel?
Some body types are just plain curvacious. At 5' 8" even if I could starve myself down to 100 pounds, I wouldn't fit into any size 1. My skeleton wouldn't fit into a size 1, (well okay maybe the skeleton.:))
Point being, are you fighting against your weight or your body type?
Last edited on 23 Mar 2006 09:28 pm by Aisling
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NevD
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Posted: 24 Mar 2006 06:16 pm |
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Sometimes when I'm in the kitchen eating my tiny portions of crackerbread and salad I wonder if its worth putting myself through this, because I'm not getting anywhere or losing any weight.
Sounds like you're taking in too few calories, so your body's rebelling...
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Balarina 24/7
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Posted: 7 May 2006 11:37 pm |
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| flyawayana- I know exactly how you feel. I am a ballet dancer as well and even through I am always told I have a great body, I just don't belive it. ALOT of my friends can eat whatever they want and not have to worry about it at all. I used to have a really hard time with what I at(or didn't) and developed a problem. Now I go to a nutritionist (the nutritionist for NYCB and ABT!) and she really helps me. Life's unfair, and we always wish we have what we don't, but I guesse we just have to work with what we've got.
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Amybcb
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Posted: 4 Jun 2006 09:35 pm |
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| Smallfry's entry is hysterical... I just had my second baby in 2 years and I am definitely not a stick and I'm jealous of people who are able to look like they didn't even just have a baby. I especially hate when they rub it in (even if not on purpose). My mother in law said yesterday that she lost all the weight in 2 months - GRRR ... but she did say I looked great and have lost more this time than after my firstborn...
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Chiffa
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Posted: 20 Aug 2006 12:18 pm |
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flyawayana wrote: i dance ballet. so, i have to be skinny. i CANT STAND those skinny girls who do NOTHONG to maintain their weight.. they are just "blessed with a perfect body"
ugh, makes me so mad cause while they are being blessed by the perfect body gods, i am working my #%@&! off, practicing, dieting, starving, obsessing over working out and what im dieting, weighting myself, trying to be #%@&!ing perfect.
now, i love dance. dont get me wrong. but how come ALL and EVERY one of my efforts have gone straight to #%@&! for weight loss. currently, ive lost 10 pounds agian, its better. i still want to lose 20 more pounds. im not telling my current stats cause i'll just get yelled at for "wanting to lose so much" you have to be in the dancing world to understand that verging on underweight IS normal.
i dontknow why im telling anyone any of thise. venting i supposed. man, i havent posted on here in a long time either, and i think last i posted i was "recovering" well to #%@&! with that concept.
right, im not bitter.
I completely understand your post...
When I was 6 years old, I was identified to be flexible (what 6 year old is not)
For sports learning I was directed to either gymnastics or the ballet.
I chose ballet and so started my dancing life. Through regular school there was always classes to attend before and after regualar academia subjects. For 'university' I gained acceptance to Voronezh choreographic institute.
I trained there in the classical Legat system and after graduating Voronezh choreographic institute, (with both international soloist and advanced certificates) I was invited to the State Ballet Theatre?σΤιΌΤδσs ballet group (a company of 56 dancers) and learned their repertoire. I have danced in Germany, Holland, France, and China.
It's the sad but true fact that we are in the profession that not only encourages eating disorders, but demands such extreme discipline from and criticism to our bodies.
I can remember Mme Valitova early taking me aside to tell me that "I could have more height if only i would weigh less"
Although I was never 'heavy' when dancing, of course I lost the weight.
And probably to any-one outside the theatre i appeared to be "one of those skinny girls who do nothing to maintain their weight" Although after classes and practises my calorie deficit was such that I almost never even needed to think about my weight.
But I remember other girls obsessing, and the cruel and hard words when costumes would strain against even some few extra weight.
My best wishes to you on your path.
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Chiffa
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Posted: 20 Aug 2006 12:23 pm |
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Aisling wrote: flyawayana wrote:
i dance ballet. so, i have to be skinny. ...
you have to be in the dancing world to understand that verging on underweight IS normal.
I know what you mean, you've got to be thin to be dance ballet, especially professionally. (that's why I like belly dancing, you're allowed to be voluptious)
Aha, and see, I was always envious to the belly dancers, because they had breasts and hips and lovely curving bellys, and I thought they are more 'womanly' then I'm, and their dances are so sensual.
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sick&tired
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Posted: 23 Sep 2006 01:42 pm |
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'i dance ballet. so, i have to be skinny. i CANT STAND those skinny girls who do NOTHONG to maintain their weight.. they are just "blessed with a perfect body"
ugh, makes me so mad cause while they are being blessed by the perfect body gods, i am working my #%@&! off, practicing, dieting, starving, obsessing over working out and what im dieting, weighting myself, trying to be #%@&!ing perfect.
now, i love dance. dont get me wrong. but how come ALL and EVERY one of my efforts have gone straight to #%@&! for weight loss. currently, ive lost 10 pounds agian, its better. i still want to lose 20 more pounds. im not telling my current stats cause i'll just get yelled at for "wanting to lose so much" you have to be in the dancing world to understand that verging on underweight IS normal.
i dontknow why im telling anyone any of thise. venting i supposed. man, i havent posted on here in a long time either, and i think last i posted i was "recovering" well to #%@&! with that concept.
right, im not bitter.'
I'm one of the skinny girls you hate.... yet i envy you... I wish i was curvy, muscular or fit. I used to be about 115 pounds, underweight as i'm 5'8 and a half, but that was my normal weight. For some, now unknown reason, like you, i wasnt satisfied with my body and i easily lost weight, like an annoying skinny girl with a way too fast metabolism. Now im anorexic... a 99 pound girl that is lost. I'm in recovery now and it is extremely difficult to put on weight even when i'm trying. This may sound like bliss to you, but its #%@&! for me. I just want to be better. I want boobs and hips like all of my friends. Girls that are skinny have the same problems as curvy girls. I wish everyone was satisfied with who they were! I wish i never decided to loose weight, i wish i was like my sister who is about 20pounds more than me. You say that skinny girls are 'blessed with the perfect body,' i dissagree, a woman should be curvy and i feel like a little girl. I'm almost 18 and i am mistaken for a 14 year old, its annoying.
I think that if you have to starve yourself to be a dancer, then its not worth it. You'll cause yourself a lot of damage to your body and it's not worth it. If people can't see you for how 'perfect' your body really is the @#$! them! BTW skinny people age quicker and curvy chicks are coming back in, the rake look is out, soon everyone will envy what you have, or what you had. Please don't loose weight for the dance, it may seem like the most important thing, but your health is.
Us skinny chicks are no more happier than the bigger ones. size 2 or size 16, we'll never be happy. But from personal experience as being an extremely skinny one- ITS OVERRATED!!! its #%@&!, i hate it- bring on the curves 
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Heavenseventeen
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Posted: 9 Oct 2006 06:33 pm |
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vanessa wrote: lol yes me too i have a 18 year old sister she is very slim she never works out eats what ever she wants shes like 110 pounds im 145 and i must have a slow motapelism sad tho do you guys no how i can lose fat fast make her real jelouse lol xxxxxxx
Just like my sister and I. She has ALWAYS been skinny but....
recently she came up to me and showed me her stomach, and she's getting a little pot belly. She wanted advice on what to do. I felt kind of smug...bad, but true. She'll have to start working just like me.
All those "skinny people"...they'll know how we feel one day. Only difference is, they get to enjoy all these younger years weight free, but I didn't.
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heavyharts
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Posted: 12 Oct 2006 05:47 pm |
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flyawayana:
I am a ballerina so I UNDERSTAND. there is nothing that pisses me off more than to walk into a studio and see the girls who's neck bones are perfectly elegant and skiney... perfect body and by that: NO hips, NO boobs, NO thighs, NO butt.... i understand your frustration more than anything on this earth. my first conscience moment of being aware of my weight was when iw as 8 years old and was being fitted for a costume with the Milwaukee Ballet Company (i was one of the students who was in the professional production in Milwaukee). as they were pulling the bodess tighter, one of my intructors said to me "somebody's been eating too many cookies". i will never forget that (i'm 20 years old today). death to those dancers. give the rest of us a shot!
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Posted: 12 Oct 2006 07:54 pm |
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| Me and my husband is Jack Sprate and the fat wife. Anyway I exercise all the time and one day my husband bought bikes at a yard sale for someone else. We took it around the block, his legs hurt to much to do more than one block and I went 3 times. But I was telling my husband look I can do 4 man style push ups. and he says let me see if I can do 4. Anyway he did 4 one arm push ups. Score one for me Score one for him. oh well.
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sick&tired
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Posted: 13 Oct 2006 05:07 am |
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heavyharts wrote: flyawayana:
I am a ballerina so I UNDERSTAND. there is nothing that pisses me off more than to walk into a studio and see the girls who's neck bones are perfectly elegant and skiney... perfect body and by that: NO hips, NO boobs, NO thighs, NO butt.... i understand your frustration more than anything on this earth. my first conscience moment of being aware of my weight was when iw as 8 years old and was being fitted for a costume with the Milwaukee Ballet Company (i was one of the students who was in the professional production in Milwaukee). as they were pulling the bodess tighter, one of my intructors said to me "somebody's been eating too many cookies". i will never forget that (i'm 20 years old today). death to those dancers. give the rest of us a shot!
Isn't the whole part of being a woman to be curvy. Having no hips, no boobs, no thighs and no butt is definately not the perfect body. When you look in men's magazines all of the girls are curvy... i don't know what this facination is with looking like a pre-pubescent girl is!!... I unfortunately was cursed with what you call the - 'perfect body' and i hate it! I do slightly have a butt- and thats what all the guys notice- all my other body parts are too skinny. I hate having no boobs, i'm 18 and i always get mistaken for a fourteen year old because i'm straight up and down.... i agree that they should give you a shot, but don't be angry at the skinny girls coz, not all, but some would definately trade in their bony, child-like limbs for your womanly curves.... As they say the grass is always greener and i cant say that if i was curvy, i wouldn't wanna be skinny... but as a horribly skinny person, i think your the lucky one
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girlnextstore
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Posted: 13 Oct 2006 11:10 pm |
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Ugh I completely understand. I work my #%@&! off (literally) to keep my body in the best shape I can. Some people think I am too skinny but I always ride the edge between being too skinny and just skinny enough. I could probably add 5-10lbs and still be considered in shape- I think everyone has to find a comfort level and as long as its not dangerous to your health you can do what you need to do to feel good.
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heavyharts
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Posted: 14 Oct 2006 11:25 pm |
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| thats what it used to be to be a woman... having hips and boobs. but thats an intresting question you pose. isn't that what being a woman is all about? so then where does all of this pressure to be thin come from and why? i suppose that is more of a retoricale question more than anything, but think about it. you know?
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sick&tired
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Posted: 15 Oct 2006 12:15 am |
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I personally think it comes from the media... I know that here in Australia and i'd say in the US too that there is a huge media response when it comes to Obesity... Its EVERYWHERE!!! on the T.V, in magazines, newspapers, radio's etc... all saying how unhealthy and discusting being fat is, and how its taking over.... There is barelyany information and awareness for eating disorders besides the fact that nearly every second celeb has one.... Girls don't realise that eating disorders are just as bad, if worse than being overweight... I know that when i did PDHPE in school we didn't learn about eating disorders, i had no idea what i was getting myself into when i became anorexic.... So many young girls idolise people like mary-kate olsen Hilary Duff, Mischa Barton and Nicole Richie and guess what they are all anorexic, bullimic or un healthily and unrealistically skinny and this is how girls think a womans body is supposed to be... i used to hear younger years at school all the time saying ' i'm fat, i'm going on a diet.... one that i read in cosmo' or stuff like that... its ridiculus, they haven't even started developing yet.. So many people think that girls or women loose weight to get guys and thats soo untrue, no guy wants a skinny girlfriend with no boobs, butt, hips or thighs... if they did then they'd just go out with 12 year olds.... I think it all comes down to the individual and their choice... other factors may influence it, like personal problems...
In the end its about low self- esteem and trying to find an easy way to feel better.... but the happiness that you get from loosing too much weight is fake, because at the end of the day you are sick, tired, gross and eventually alone... because the reality is that noone will love somebody who can't love themselves first.
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flyonthewall
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Posted: 12 Apr 2007 05:38 am |
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lowfat salad dressing means more spare calories, which means more possible food{}just a tip
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flyonthewall
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Posted: 12 Apr 2007 05:42 am |
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a lot of ppl work really hard to lose weight, but dont obbsess over it, so you cant tell
sounds like ur tryin to be skinny, evn tho yu already r
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Posted: 12 Apr 2007 05:55 pm |
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sick&tired wrote: I'm one of the skinny girls you hate.... yet i envy you... I wish i was curvy, muscular or fit.
Us skinny chicks are no more happier than the bigger ones. size 2 or size 16, we'll never be happy. But from personal experience as being an extremely skinny one- ITS OVERRATED!!! its #%@&!, i hate it- bring on the curves
I think you've got a great point! I don't know anybody who's completely happy with the way they look, I don't know any girl who doesn't think she's too fat! (I don't now any extrem skinny ppl)
Many of my friends make fun of me for complaining I'm not a size 6 right now. Still, I'm skinnier than they are, but I work on it! I work out and I eat healthy! Just because I'm skinnier than some, doesn't mean it doesn't hurt to gain weight. If you're a size 12 and you gain weight and suddenly you're a size 16 it hurts you - it's the same for me... I don't like myself in a size 10 when I know I used to be a 6 and it's just lazyness and overindulgens that keep me form fitting in my old clothes again!
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kendra
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Posted: 8 Jan 2008 12:13 pm |
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 I am a skinny girl but I have curves, and for you to say that you can't stand them is crazy.....you really don't know what some skinny girls do behind closed doors....some may have eating disorders and you would never know it.....I can usually eat whatever I want but I still have to work my butt off to stay that way(and i use to throw up after I ate, not many people know that)....I am only 5ft 1 in......my best friend is a bigger girl and I hate the way i look and she hates the way she looks. We both want to be smaller.....I can't even find a pair of jeans that fit because I have a butt and thighs, but a small waist, but she has the opposite because she has a bigger belly.....being small is not always a walk in the park.....keep that in mind next time you look at a skinny girl, she may eat alot around you but then she may run off to the bathroom........Kendra
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Oreo
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008 07:42 pm |
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| Snap, that's my problem the butt and thighs, I'm also 5'1. Even if I lose weight to a point where my collar bone is clearly visible, I still have big thighs..one of the downsides of being short!
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