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Peter Founder of this forum

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Posted: 27 Sep 2007 07:40 pm |
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I'm not trying to "win," but if you can find a bride who doesn't care if she looks pretty on her wedding day I'll give you the prize! (Or perhaps things are very different in the UK? Haha.)
Your grandma sounds fun!
Peter
P.S.
I was planning on visiting the UK summer 2008, but with the exchange rate it looks like it would be too costly.
Plus I don't want to hear all those swearing British brides! 
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Ohm Senior Member

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Posted: 27 Sep 2007 07:46 pm |
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She was a wicked old bat, but I think that might be where I get it from.
OK, on your terms I win (hehe) because I was a bride and I didn't give a flying ferret what I looked like or what people thought - mind you I didn't swear on my wedding day either as far as I know. I was just deliriously happy to be marrying my darling husband! It was a very small do - we didn't have much cash to splash and it was all arranged at relatively short notice. We had a lot of people criticising us (because ours is both an inter-faith and inter-racial marriage) but we were deliriously happy to call each other husband and wife - and we still are
Altogether now............aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!.
Last edited on 27 Sep 2007 08:07 pm by Ohm
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Trixie.in.Dixie New Member

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Posted: 27 Sep 2007 10:03 pm |
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To quote myself from previously, "to each his own" - because beauty or "attractiveness" means different things to different people - I am attracted to my partner based on qualities that are important to me - I don't know if others think he is "attractive" or not, because in my mind he is perfect, so I don't care.
However, I may look at other people and see flaws based on my personal biases - qualities that I personally do not find attractive, physical or otherwise. So, if I have a problem with the use of what I think is profanity in an inappropriate setting, then that will shade my perceptions of other people. My point is that the use of profanity and whether or not it is perceived as "offensive" and therefore "unattractive" completely depends on the folks who are hearing and deciding for themselves. What I think is okay may not be the same for the next guy.
As for what people are saying and what they mean, don't try to overanalyze it. Most people simply use "sound-alike" words because they aren't the real thing and maybe they are wishing they could use a stronger, less PC word or phrase, and then again, maybe they aren't. Maybe they are just used to certain alternate words and have never considered that anyone might think that they meant something more offensive. But we can't know unless we ask the speaker, so let's not jump to conclusions.
I say "rats!" a lot, and it has never ever been a substitute for any other word. It's just a word that sounds funny, and that's pretty much why I use it.
I said this before, but I'll mention it again. Having grown up the way I did, with the old-fashioned southern ways of thinking, I learned from my mother and grandmother that the way you present yourself says a lot about your upbringing and self-respect. You don't have to be pretty or rich or wear expensive clothes, but you should always go out into the world looking (and sounding) like you have respect for yourself. To me that includes the way you speak, and if you are generally loud, use bad grammar, curse in front of just anybody, or scream at your kids in the store aisles, I will definitely find that unattractive.
The difference is that what you do in public, say, at your place of employment, may be very different from the way you are in your private life, so knowing how to conduct yourself in a way that is appropriate to the situation is key to me.
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Peter Founder of this forum

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Posted: 27 Sep 2007 11:16 pm |
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Well said Trixie! A true Southern Bell.
Except... uh oh... you used the term PC!
I'm really enjoying this discussion and the one I started about suing McDonald's. As soon as I have time -- probably next week -- I'm going to tell everyone how awful it is to use the term PC. That's oughta be fun!
(Let's not start that discussing in this thread.)
Till then,
Peter
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Ohm Senior Member

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Posted: 28 Sep 2007 07:23 am |
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Trixie.in.Dixie New Member

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Posted: 28 Sep 2007 12:46 pm |
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Peter wrote: Well said Trixie! A true Southern Bell.
Hey, Darlin' (said with a twang), that's "belle".... Southern Bell was the name of the phone company before it became the generic sounding "Bellsouth". Bleah.
As some might say "Bless yer heart"....
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BlackDiamond New Member

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Posted: 8 Oct 2007 09:01 am |
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i come from a family that is very into vulgar language. i heard it alot at the public schools. but now i attend a private christian school and it is so free of pretty much all the bad language. truthfully, i have cursed quite a bit lately in the past 2 or 3 weeks. i dont know my coach made me more angry then i think ive ever been and it started. but yesterday i read this topic and what everybody had to say. wow i really have never looked at the fact that it can really make you look less attractive to people. ive gotten better i think i said one maybe two bad words in the past day. because i accidently cut myself but yeah. usually that isnt even a good excuse to curse.
thanks guys i really appreciate this. it helped me realize that i was doing erm. speaking wrong.
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1seekspie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 9 Oct 2007 08:56 am |
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Interesting point, Peter. I try like crazy to get my hair, body, face, ect looking perfect yet I curse at least 20 times a day...I'm talking F-bombs, ect.
I know it's like a really nasty habbit to get into...and I kind of want to break it but I find it really difficult!
Then again, the way I look at it, is cursing really so bad? I mean if you want to be polite and appealing, constant cursing will do nothing but hurt you. Think, however, about big issues in the world today. Most people have issues with sex, violence, and cursing on television, video games, in real life, ect! But what's worse? Dropping the F-bomb or beating the daylights out of some one?
I can't believe that there are people who get more offended by foul language than violence. While cursing should be controlled, violence is much, much worse. I think that people should get rid of that first, before taking out all our favorite curses!
I hope I didn't get too off topic, I know this issue is: Does constant cursing make you less attractive? I think so yes. I mean not in the literal sense...like if you drop a few curse words, you won't suddenly break out in moles or gain 500 pounds, will you? Of course not! I just think that there are worse things than cursing out there and before trying to focus on that, we need to rid constant violence and sex from humanity.
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BlackDiamond New Member

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Posted: 10 Oct 2007 05:26 am |
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I somewhat disagree with you 1seekspie. Yes there is a lot of violence and sex and wutnot. But those things may be a little harder to control then what we may see with the naked eye. If we want to change the things we dont like start with the "little" things that aggravate it. Sometimes. well probably alot of the time foul language just makes violence worse in some cases. Try getting rid of all the cursing and wutnot to start out with. I know we won't ever get all of it but its a start especially if you want to try and get rid of all the other bad stuff. Start small and you can make a difference here.
I personally feel that when there isnt a buncha cursing and such that the moment in time feels nicer ina sense. I feel nicer when i dont curse. happiness leads to less violence yadda yadda yadda. you get what i mean right??
This is just my opinion on it though. =D
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