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Batman8249
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Posted: 24 May 2006 11:08 pm |
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| Can I survive on fruits and vegetables only Last edited on 24 May 2006 11:14 pm by Batman8249
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wm
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Posted: 25 May 2006 05:31 am |
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Vegans all over the world are living proof that you can! But be sure to add a supplement containing vitamin B12, the only nutritional requirement that can't be obtained from the plant kingdom.
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Nir
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Posted: 12 Nov 2006 08:12 pm |
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No need to struggle. E.g. a 200g tub of low-fat cottage cheese can supply 24g of protein. Egg whites are pure protein and can be prepared in various delicous ways. TVP (soya mince) is very versatile. At a bind you can always look into protein shakes.
Of course in the spirit of the original question, I'll agree it is a bit tricky if you're mainly getting it from cooked mushrooms and spinach (be prepared to eat large quantities) or else use beans but as they're typically 25-30% protein you'll be consuming carbs in the process.
I'm using (my weight in kg) x 1.8 as my target. Currently this gives 105g.
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jillybean720
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Posted: 13 Nov 2006 12:55 pm |
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| I agree...nuts, beans, and even things like avocado and coconut to give you protein and fat (you do need some fat in order to absorb certain nutrients). Cottage cheese and egg whites are good, but those don't exactly fall into the "fruits and vegetables" category (not sure if you're trying to go vegetarian or vegan--vegans don't eat ANY animal byproducts, including dairy).
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1seekspie
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Posted: 18 Aug 2007 04:55 am |
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To answer your question...No.
I believe we're familiar with the food pyramid and no matter how hard you try, I'm sorry, but a fruit is NOT a substitute for a steak...taste wise or nutrition-wise. Why is it you ask this? Are you just curious or are you really considering eating nothing but fruits and vegeatables? If so please don't. As humans, we need a variety of food because we need a variety of nutrients to run on. We need what meats, grains, and dairy has to offer because while they may have some nutrients in commen with fruits/vegies, they also have things that you can't get anywhere else.
Understand? 
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Nir
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Posted: 18 Aug 2007 07:05 am |
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I guess you're suggesting that vegeterians and vegans are out of luck and cannot survive?
They won't like it when they find out, I suggest you'd better hide!
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1seekspie
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Posted: 18 Aug 2007 04:49 pm |
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| No, I'm not suggesting that. The question was, "Can I survive on Fruits and Vegetables only?" I just said no because there are other nutrients that can't be filled with Fruit and Vegetables completely by themselves. Vegans eat more then Fruits and vegetables, right? Like, oh I don't know, peanuts as a source of protein? Vegans can survive, but I would never become vegan because I believe humans were originally programed to be omnivores whether we wanted to be or not and while I don't think that we need to eat every living creature on the planet, I do believe nature intended us to have meat in our diet.
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Nir
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Posted: 18 Aug 2007 08:33 pm |
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| Ok, I'll give you that I'd like beans/lentils (for protein) and nuts/seeds (for fat) included too.
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Peter
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Posted: 20 Aug 2007 01:07 am |
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1seekspie wrote: To answer your question...No.
I believe we're familiar with the food pyramid and no matter how hard you try, I'm sorry, but a fruit is NOT a substitute for a steak...taste wise or nutrition-wise. Why is it you ask this? Are you just curious or are you really considering eating nothing but fruits and vegeatables? If so please don't. As humans, we need a variety of food because we need a variety of nutrients to run on. We need what meats, grains, and dairy has to offer because while they may have some nutrients in commen with fruits/vegies, they also have things that you can't get anywhere else.
Understand?
No. Please tell me what I can get from the animal kingdom that I can't get from the plant kingdom so I will understand. (Other than B12 as wm notes.)
Peter
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Peter
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Posted: 20 Aug 2007 01:21 am |
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1seekspie wrote: I believe humans were originally programed to be omnivores whether we wanted to be or not and while I don't think that we need to eat every living creature on the planet, I do believe nature intended us to have meat in our diet.
Why?
We have teeth to cut plants and molars to chew grains. Our saliva is more like that of a cow than a tiger, and that's certainly true about our very long intestinal track. A cow needs to have a long intestinal track to digest grains and such; a tiger's is very short so that the meat doesn't rot and become foul and toxic and cause cancer.
I'm not really qualified to argue that man was programmed to be vegan, nor am I sure it's true. But I'd like to know why you think man was programmed to eat meat.
Peter
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1seekspie,
I'm just now reading through the forums and seeing all your great posts. Thought I'd better come back and add this note... just want to be sure you don't think I'm being critical of your ideas. I just love a good debate!
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1seekspie
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Posted: 20 Aug 2007 03:29 am |
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Well that's a good question Peter.
The way I figure is that durring the dawn of humanity, people didn't have nearly as many options as we have now for food. Having a chicken salad meant going out, killing a bird (perhaps cooking it over a fire) and eating a plant along with it! Anyway, the point is that meats were really the only places we could easily find certain nutrients our bodies craved as we knew hardly as much as we do now, particularly about nutrition...we didn't know that lentils gave us protein as well as that juicy looking wild bore! Point being, meats were what were available for the nutrients our bodies craved so humans were programmed to eat meat...as well as other things such as vegetables and fruits...but that was all that was available at the time, if that!
In modern day we can substitute other things for meats, but I still believe that somewhere in our brain there are little signals that want us to eat meat. I think you had a good point about how our mouths were made and I think that nature intended us to be more on the produce side of being omnivores. Then again I think about wisdom teeth, weren't those intended to chew tougher things a long time ago when all that was available were animals with tough meat?
Anyway, that's my argument...or debate point. And no, I don't think your being critical of my ideas, I'm actually enjoying this =).
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