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suzy
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Posted: 16 Jan 2012 10:23 am |
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Tankgirl,
YES that's exactly what I was doing before. First thing when I woke up, I'd make my coffee. The caffeine kicked in about 20 minutes later and I'd be getting my kids ready for school, in addition to getting myself ready for work. Once they were out the door I would grab a candy bar (Snickers) and be on my way, not even realizing how many calories I'd already consumed! I would estimate that I had about 500 based on that alone. Sometimes I'd refill the coffee cup on my way to work! That means that I possibly had 700 calories all before 8:30 AM. CRAZY!
Again, I didn't even realize how many calories I was really consuming until I sat down and added them up.
I'm glad I started looking into calories because I feel so much better now, eating healthier. Now I eat a proper breakfast, but yes, I have to take more time out for myself to cook and I started taking vitamins too. Now on my way out the door I'm grabbing something better, like an apple or strawberries.
If I wasn't selfish, I'd continue doing for others and not for myself and most likely I'd keep getting fatter. I started exercising this week, therefore, that's time I took for myself. Since I get home 15 minutes before my kids do and I don't have any other time to exercise, I ask my husband to watch them and take "my" time (35 minutes) to exercise. According to jsabd, that makes me selfish, so be it. I wasn't thinking ahead of the ramifications of eating the way I was, so if being selfish = positive consequences for me, I'm all for it.
The one thing I'm not getting is the logic in this forum from jsabd. There is name calling and berating. His reply to others is to bash them. I think his definition of tough love is skewed, and if that's what he think tough love is, I want no part of it. He even goes so low as pointing out other's typos and completely ignoring their questions.
When I decided to lose weight, I researched what I needed to and got my answers. The reason I came to this forum was because I am being hard on myself. I am, believe it or not, a very disciplined individual and it was my husband who said I was being hard on myself, and he says I'm depriving myself of junk food and I'm being too scrict. Yes, I am because that's what works for ME. I just don't want chocolate in my house because it's a lure, it's too tempting to me at this point and the progress I've made in the past few weeks is not something I want to throw out the window over a temptation.
Years ago I quit smoking. I'd have to say that was the hardest thing I ever did in my life. Quitting to me meant never buying cigarettes again. Just seeing someone in the car ahead of me with a cigarette in their hand out the window would make me crave one, so I avoided cigarettes like the plague, but I still saw people smoking. I was tough on myself, continually having to remind myself that I didn't want a cigarette that I wanted SO badly. Eventually, I was able to be in a room with smokers without it bothering me, it just took a LONG time.
It's the same for me with eating certain foods. I still have my coffee but substituted the sugar for splenda and extra cream for fat free half and half using exact serving sizes. It took me a few days to get used to it but it's not bad at all. I still see chocolate and ice cream in the grocery stores but I just walk away as tough as it still is, but I know in the long run it will benefit me. I know that I CAN eat chocolate or ice cream if I wanted to, but would I stop at just one bite? The answer right now is NO. I would want the entire thing. I am trying to get more self-control in the area of eating, and I'm doing pretty darn good!
Thanks for your response
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 16 Jan 2012 10:45 am |
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Suzy,
Welcome to the mixed up world of the tough love forum.
JS believes this kind of treatment works, as evidenced by an obesity program in Singapore. Sad, this is it often turns out to be true, How many times have you read a story of someone that finally lost weight because they got sick of the humiliation? Kevin Smith, the director is an example. I engage with him because I don't often get to pick the brains of someone that feels that way about fat people (like me) , and sometimes he's an opportunity to stick up to school bullies that I wish I'd dealt with when I was younger.
One thing we definitely disagree on is how we define hedonism: He seems to do it calorically, I'm more by the price tag. Like the difference between a $2 Big mac (which always looks sat on - ewww) and a piece of fresh fish...at $6 a pound I'd say the fish is more hedonistic, even if it is healthier !
In the end Suzy JS is just one guy on a mission- we all have our own. the rest of us in the forum ( when we're not taking a break from the negativity) are all pretty nice.
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suzy
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Posted: 16 Jan 2012 06:09 pm |
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Tankgirl, thanks for the welcome.
This isn't where I need to be, I see that now. For me "tough love" was defined as the following: "ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK. You've tried everything else and failed. Maybe it's time for some tough love from those walking the walk? WARNING: This forum is as serious as the heart attack you'll have if you don't get serious and lose weight. ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK. it is still a family forum so watch your language."
This implies that someone can relate to you, maybe someone tried and failed, maybe some are just currently fighting temptation (ME), and just needed a reality check. I actually wanted to see comments from others who were going through what I am currently going through, and like it says above, "those walking the walk"
It doesn't appear that is happening in this forum.
From what I've read in JS's posts, it doesn't appear he walked the walk, so how can his input even count here? He's not even offering help he's only showing photos of obese women and name calling.
That's not helpful to me, it's immature.
JS believes that because someone is fat they do not cook. False. JS believes that a thin mother = good mother & good wife, what about Casey Anthony & Pamela Smart? They are both fit women and one was a horrible mother, the other a horrible cheating thin wife. JS believes that fat people eat more food because they're gluttons, not taking into account some fat people, like myself, were actually consuming LESS food with a higher calorie content. JS belittles people and it appears to be his only defense. JS seems to like to argue and when the other person (everyone else on the forum) stops arguing, he accuses them of being a coward, points out typos, bashes women and accuses them of having STD's and being#%@&!ty, all based upon their weight? JS doesn't answer the questions asked of him. JS has OCD and without proper therapy and/or medication he will never realize the fact that people don't want to play his game and feed into his delusions and they have what's called maturity and common sense.
JS is obsessed with obese women which is evident in the photos he's posting.
JS is a bad father. How do I know this? Because I am an open minded person, I tried thinking the distorted way JS thinks and this is my conclusion:
JS is a bad father because he belittles fat people. JS is a bad father because instead of spending time with his family, he is online searching relentlessly for someone to agree with him. JS is a bad father because no parent, father OR mother would act in a manner that is immature or hateful. JS isn't being mindful of how he spends his time and that's why he's a bad father.
I'm not coming back here, so it doesn't matter what is or isn't said. If the moderator or whomever is in charge of this website allows someone like him on it, then I don't want any part of it, it's a reflection of how the site is run as a whole. I found another more supportive site to join and besides that, I have my own motivation and determination to lose the weight I want.Last edited on 16 Jan 2012 07:12 pm by suzy
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JSABD
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 03:16 am |
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suzy
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 11:01 am |
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Initially I said I wouldn't respond, but between then and now some things were brought to my attention. First off, JSABD, you PM'd me asking which fat acceptance troll #%@&! I was. I am neither a fat acceptance troll, nor am I a #%@&!. Common sense would tell you that since I am losing weight, and posting about losing weight, I am not accepting of fat, you are lacking common sense. I have been married to, and faithful to, my husband of 22 years. In my 40+ years alive, I contracted one yeast infection related to antibiotics at the age of 19. I was advised to eat yogurt to counteract this problem while on antibiotics. I was told by my family physician that this is a common occurrence, and I have NEVER had an STD. I'm sorry you did!
As for the comment on me smoking? Again, JSABD, there's the lack of common sense showing, I QUIT smoking, you silly scrawny long-haired troll!
A couple of other members here have PM'd me with various information about you, along with links from other web sites to things you've posted. It's apparent that anyone who disagrees with you will be called names such as "fattie" "fat girl" "glutton" "sow" "bad mothers" "bad wives" "food#%@&!" "fatling" and you'll go on to accuse us of having raging yeast infections and STD's, and when all else fails and you know you're in the wrong, you start pointing out typos, which by the way, I noticed you have a lot of those yourself. All that being said, that's not why I came back here.
I came back to address 2 separate posts you made. One was a photo of two young overweight boys and you call them "porkers". That right there shows how psychopathic and low you really are. They are clearly too young to have an income, therefore, have no say what they're being fed. If they are being overfed it is not their fault. There's your lack of common sense showing again. One can only hope when they are old enough, they will learn the proper way of eating and they can lose weight.
The other post I wanted to address is about your comment on how special needs children have fat mothers, and you go on to say: "when the short bus comes around you'll see fat mothers waiting for them." This was the comment that struck a nerve with me. How dare you make such a rotten statement. My sister has a child with severe Autism. My sister is a fitness instructor, her husband is also in great shape. I have seen the trials my sister and brother-in-law have gone through, and, although they do their best to raise their son, they will struggle with this for the rest of their lives. The impact Autism had on their family has been devastating in every way you could never imagine. Financially (they have their son on a GFCF diet which costs them a small fortune, the supplements for their child, the special clothing because he can only wear certain fabrics, the way they had to modify their home to accommodate their son (fences, special gates and locks)), the daily ins and outs of their son's behaviors that you could never have the intelligence to understand, and yet, they are the most dedicated GOOD parents I know. This child also has epilepsy. Imagine if my sister looks online and does a google search and were to see your insulting words that are forever out in cyberspace. The impact of your words can never be taken back, think about it.
The Autism epidemic is no joke. I last time I checked odds are 1/110 children (mostly boys) develop Autism. That means if you have children, if they have children, etc., someone in your bloodline has a pretty good chance of being diagnosed with Autism. What if it's your Grandchild that gets an autism diagnosis? What if your son/daughter who is thin and healthy have this happen to their child? What about other issues such as cerebral palsy, mental retardation, Down's Syndrome, brain injuries, Meningomyelocele, speech impediments, physical disabilities. What if they're all healthy and have some freak accident which renders them a vegetable? What is finally going to happen to you in your life that makes you take it down a notch? Would you like to see your children or Grandchildren suffering due to your unkindness?
You are truly disgusting.
Although I'm no fat acceptance troll, I would happily prefer to be overweight than to have to deal with what karma has in store for you. You may not care now but your writings online (dating back to 2007 from what I found) will come back to bite you one day, I can guarantee you that.
You want to talk about the seven deadly sins? Let's talk about WRATH. In the 7 deadly sins Wrath (or anger or "Rage") may be described as inordinate and uncontrolled feelings of hatred & anger." In this case, your obsessive anger and hatred is towards the overweight population, mostly women.
You want to speak of the Bible and religion? We can do that too. Have you ever heard about "sins of the Father". Read that. Your sins today (your anger and wrath) will come back in a way you could never imagine. If you love your children, if you love your Grandchildren, something YOU did, some way YOU act, will come back on THEM later. That, my friend, is selfish and bad.
JSABD, I really pity your family and generations to come. They will have to suffer for having a fool for a Father and Grandfather. You must be a loner, because no one would want to spend any time with someone like you, and I suspect that's where all this hate and resentment stems from. I think initially you may have wanted to help people with weight loss, but, when your true colors came out (like on that site when you were trying to get a book published), and your cruel nature came to light and you were ultimately banned from yet another forum, it just fueled your wrath. You're like a toddler. When you don't get your own way you start acting out, you have no self-control over your emotions. It's understandable, however, that a toddler would act that way, they haven't yet developed self-control.
Where does the obsessive hatred come from? Is this because you attempted to come onto a fat woman and you were rejected? Is it because that would disprove your theory that fat women are easy or#%@&!ty? Who really knows! Maybe you were raised this way witnessing your parents degrade others due to their weight. I know you made a comment somewhere that your mother was bashing a fat person in the store for using a scooter. Does your mother know this person personally? Maybe they have nerve damage? Maybe they have inherited back problems? Maybe they were in some kind of accident? I mean, how do you get by in life with the attitude you carry? How can you look yourself in the mirror everyday and feel good knowing you have nothing positive to offer anyone? The mere thought of it makes me ill. If your Mother raised you to belittle overweight people, then she is a bad Mother. Why don't you and your Mother try doing something constructive with your time and put your energies into a USEFUL cause? If neither you or your Mother are overweight, then you have no personal stake in this issue. You have contributed nothing but insults and childlike comebacks on this forum.
In closing, here's a proverb for you to remember: ?óÔé¼?ôWise men store up knowledge, but the mouth of a fool invites ruin."
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Steampunk
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 01:30 pm |
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You must not post to the Service any Content that, as reasonably determined by thelegacywebsite.com, is or appears to be:
1. untrue, misleading, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, invasive to another person's privacy or protected data, hateful, or racially or otherwise objectionable;
I don't see how the use of the terms "#%@&!" and "slut" doesn't go against the Terms of Use here. Not only does it directly go against the aforementioned rule but one could also argue that it's defamatory in nature which is also a rule - 4.2.4.
At this point it seems to me that this is a free for all and no rules exist. When people are receiving unsolicited private messages filled with obscene, untrue, and vulgar insults something needs to be done. It's even more ridiculous that it's happening to a new member who would now rather invest more time in a better moderated website. On other forums, if a member is found to be regularly messaging others to harass them, something is done about it.
This forum crossed the line as soon as the sexual harassment of women was allowed. Is it acceptable to use vulgar terms regarding race and sexual orientation as well? We should probably clear that up so we can all be on the same playing field. The fact that so many are against this and almost every thread devolves into nothing but hate speech speaks for itself. There just happens to be no protection in place to keep it from happening and I'm surprised that this place continues to be at least somewhat active.
And I have to point this out simply because it is so funny to me...the discussion turned to morals a bit further up...which I find hilarious when the commentary is coming from someone who lacks morals himself. At what point did it become moral, ethical, or acceptable from a "Christian" standpoint to be so abusive, harassing, and hateful? Why is it almost always the "righteous" that are the first to hurl insults and hate? If you truly believe in morals and follow a religion strictly, you've got some explaining to do and I would personally be worried because if you think that halfheartedly praying for forgiveness at the end of the day wipes the slate clean every night, you are likely fooling yourself. The discussion of moral and social obligation and religion shouldn't even be taking place here until and unless someone who actually follows religious doctrines and has a conscience themselves steps up to do so.
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JSABD
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 05:21 pm |
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suzy
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Posted: 19 Jan 2012 10:00 am |
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| JSABD just keeps proving my point over and over! Peace.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 19 Jan 2012 10:04 am |
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Suzy! So glad to see you're back - we're over in the General Discussions section - hope to see you there 
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JSABD
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Posted: 19 Jan 2012 07:31 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: Suzy! So glad to see you're back - we're over in the General Discussions section - hope to see you there
She only posts in the Tough Love forum!
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Nir
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Posted: 20 Jan 2012 06:00 am |
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| Not her last 4 posts
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JSABD
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Posted: 21 Jan 2012 02:14 am |
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Nir wrote:
Not her last 4 posts
That's because she got found out.
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Ruby claire
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Posted: 25 Jun 2012 10:58 am |
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JSABD wrote:
"I have to do this for me" is a famous pseudo profoundity that many fat girls blurt out when considering weight loss. It's BS. It's complete and total BS.
OK fat girl why do you have to do this for you? That's the problem. You eat like a pig for you because you like the way it feels. That is what you are doing for you. You don't care what your gluttony is doing to your loved ones because if you did you would eat responsibly. You barely give your negative effect on others a second thought.
Let's take the fat mother. She has to do it for her kids and if she doesn't she's a BAD MOTHER!
Come at me fatties and tell me how mean I am.
I know its silly but what do you mean by "BS" ?
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Nir
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Posted: 25 Jun 2012 12:57 pm |
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| BS is a rude phrase describing cow's faecal matter
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JSABD
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Posted: 26 Jun 2012 07:54 pm |
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Nir wrote: BS is a rude phrase describing cow's faecal matter
In common parlance BS means dishonesty with a lot of flair.
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Mrs_Slowski
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Posted: 27 Jun 2012 04:16 pm |
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| I thought that was "politics"
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Jun 2012 05:58 am |
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Mrs_Slowski wrote: I thought that was "politics" Same thing. LOL
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cirko
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Posted: 3 Jul 2012 01:21 pm |
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Just made this account to thank JSABD, are the mederators that stupid, to delete some "golden eggs" just because a fat #%@&! can get her #%@&! togehther..
But thanks.. It was awesome to learn that.. Could be used in life, with the skinny bitches 
Haters gonna hate
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babyen0330
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Posted: 10 Jul 2012 02:33 pm |
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| You know, the more I read your posts JSABD, the more I realize that you have serious psychological issues. WHY do you keep focusing on women in your posts. What about fat, guys? You are clearly a misogynist who feels better when you bring women down. You probably get rejected by hot girls every day and you're attacking big women because you are upset that chubby girls are your only option. I feel sorry for you, because all your posts lead me to think that you are impotent and have A MICROSCOPIC PACKAGE. I will personally research a good therapist for you, and a surgeon who can help you with penal implants. Last edited on 10 Jul 2012 02:39 pm by babyen0330
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babyen0330
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Posted: 10 Jul 2012 02:40 pm |
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JSABD wrote:
grangers710 wrote: why do I bother reading this garbage....this tough love section needs to be modified....
Fat girls spew a lot of garbage but that is what comes with fattitude. Knocking out fattitude is not pretty but a fatling will not lose the weight until they lose the fattitude.
Fatlings need to be allowed to speak freely. If you find what they have to say too distasteful then avoid this forum. This is not for the faint of heart or girly men.
You have a lot of work to do internally.Last edited on 10 Jul 2012 02:42 pm by babyen0330
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JSABD
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Posted: 13 Jul 2012 05:31 am |
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babyen0330 wrote: You know, the more I read your posts JSABD, the more I realize that you have serious psychological issues. WHY do you keep focusing on women in your posts. What about fat, guys? You are clearly a misogynist who feels better when you bring women down. You probably get rejected by hot girls every day and you're attacking big women because you are upset that chubby girls are your only option. I feel sorry for you, because all your posts lead me to think that you are impotent and have A MICROSCOPIC PACKAGE. I will personally research a good therapist for you, and a surgeon who can help you with penal implants.
Since reading is not your strong point Ms Tyra Wannabe, I am just as tough on the fat boys and I am you fat girls. The fat boys are smart enough to know their place on the tough love forum.
You learned a new word, misogynist. Is that what you call all the men like me who reject women like you.
Chubby girls? Fat Women? Fat females may be womyn but they are not women. Women are supposed to be womanly. Fat girls are not womanly.
You know it's the height of immaturity and desperation when some fat girl make a comment about the size of a man's genitals. In reality I'm packing some respectable meat. It's probably your experience that when a man sees you in the buff his trouser snake retracts like a turtle going into it's shell.
Think about it, why would a man like me want to be with a female who is obese? You fat girls pack on the pounds month after month. You make terrible mothers. The men you girls end up with have one thing in common... LOW standards.
BTW, Ms Model, Let's see a some of your work.
Cheesecake anyone with an Oreo on top?
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babyen0330
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Posted: 13 Jul 2012 01:07 pm |
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Since reading is not your strong point Ms Tyra Wannabe, I am just as tough on the?é?á fat boys and I am you fat girls.
Illiteracy at its finest.
You learned a new word, misogynist. Is that what you call all the men like me who reject women like you.
I have NEVER in my life been rejected. Sure, guys have complained about my weight, but they never cared enough to reject me.
Chubby girls? Fat Women??é?á Fat females may be womyn but they are not women.?é?á Women are supposed to be womanly. Fat girls are not womanly.
But short guys like you sure are womanly. I bet I tower over you at 5'9, you smurf.
You know it's the height of immaturity and desperation when some fat girl make a comment about the size of a man's genitals.
Cry me a river...
In reality I'm packing some respectable meat.
Upon seeing this, I found it so hard to harness the euphoria of reading "respectable meat." I bellowed out a laugh that frightened the neighbors. We ladies know what "respectable" means in terms of package sizes. It means you are the chairman of the Itty Bitty Peeny Committee.
It's probably your experience that when a man sees you in the buff his trouser snake retracts like a turtle going into it's shell.
Ew! Go get circumcised! You're grosser than I thought! 
You fat girls...make terrible mothers.
Proving what I said in my other discussion about misogynists loathing their mothers because they blame mom for their small penises.
BTW, Ms Model, Let's see a some of your work.
HA! That request was laughable to say the least! I did not get an MBA to let imbeciles like you trick me into entering a roast via reverse psychology. My youtube videos are all you will ever see Pee-Wee Herman (pun intended).
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JSABD
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Posted: 13 Jul 2012 06:17 pm |
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babyen0330 wrote: Since reading is not your strong point Ms Tyra Wannabe, I am just as tough on the fat boys as I am you fat girls.
Illiteracy at its finest.
I pressed comma instead of semi colon and you press the button on the 711 soda fountain to fill your 64 oz BIG GULP
You learned a new word, misogynist. Is that what you call all the men like me who reject women like you.
I have NEVER in my life been rejected. Sure, guys have complained about my weight, but they never cared enough to reject me.
You've been rejected. Most guys were just being politically correct. Girls your size gross out most real men who want a responsible mother and role model for their kids. Some men will do it with sheep. The only difference between a sheep and a fat girls is that sheep can't cook.
Chubby girls? Fat Women? Fat females may be womyn but they are not women. Women are supposed to be womanly. Fat girls are not womanly.
But short guys like you sure are womanly. I bet I tower over you at 5'9, you smurf.
My height is average. You sure are vain silly girl. Real men men don't want vain fat girls. You fat girls get rejected all the time. Better stick to guys with low standards with an immunity to candida albacanis.
You know it's the height of immaturity and desperation when some fat girl make a comment about the size of a man's genitals.
Cry me a river...
In reality I'm packing some respectable meat.
Upon seeing this, I found it so hard to harness the euphoria of reading "respectable meat." I bellowed  out a laugh that frightened the neighbors. We ladies know what "respectable" means in terms of package sizes. It means you are the chairman of the Itty Bitty Peeny Committee.
I am sure you fat girls bellow a lot. BRING ME MORE FOOD!
It's probably your experience that when a man sees you in the buff his trouser snake retracts like a turtle going into it's shell.
Ew! Go get circumcised! You're grosser than I thought!
I see that you don't know much about the male anatomy. That's understandable since the only sausage you see is at IHOP. If you were the knock out you think you are the guys that harpoon you would not be doing it with the lights off.
You fat girls...make terrible mothers.
Proving what I said in my other discussion about misogynists loathing their mothers because they blame mom for their small penises.
The facts prove that fat girls are bad mothers.. Their kids have more birth defects they have triple the the C section rate and they are horrible role models.
BTW, Ms Model, Let's see a some of your work.
HA! That request was laughable to say the least! I did not get an MBA to let imbeciles like you trick me into entering a roast via reverse psychology. My youtube videos are all you will ever see Pee-Wee Herman (pun intended).
MBA? what does that have to do with showing us all the modeling jobs you have done? Are you in the Lane Bryant catalog? Let see your resume and portfolio "Tyra".
In your case MBA means, Masters in Bullcrap Administration
Roast? Do you mean a hog roast?
You are claiming that you are a professional model yet you refuse to show us any of your work. Any liar can make make a #%@&! video and post it on You Tube.
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babyen0330
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Posted: 13 Jul 2012 07:04 pm |
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Since reading is not your strong point Ms Tyra Wannabe, I am just as tough on the?é?á fat boys as I am you fat girls.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Did you think that the punctuation was the problem with that sentence? Now I AM SURE that I am arguing with Forrest Gump!
...you press the button on the 711 soda fountain to fill your 64 oz BIG GULP
Really? 711? Is that what's in your neighborhood? No wonder you're so racist! You live on some redneck west coast prairie!
You've been rejected.
No Forest, I NEVER get rejected. Is it that hard for you to believe that you're the only one who gets dissed and dismissed? Misery loves company.
My height is average.?é?áYou sure are vain silly girl. Real men men don't want vain fat girls.
HAHA! Aren't you defensive? You are clearly under 6'0 so you better be rich. No hottie wants to wear flats at her wedding and you definitely cant protect a woman Napoleon.
I am sure you fat girls bellow a lot. BRING ME MORE FOOD!
Interesting! I called you short and said your penis is small. Instead of denying it, you call me a cow. Haha! Go cry yourself to sleep!
If you were the knock out you think you are the guys that harpoon you would not be doing it with the lights off.
Haha! The harpoon was a nice touch! But again, you did not deny your lack of circumcision, so I just threw up in my mouth a little.
The facts prove that fat girls are bad mothers.. Their kids have more birth defects they have triple the the C section rate and they are horrible role models.
the the... Stop stuttering Forrest. Are you explaining why you're so slow? Maybe your fat mother needs to watch my videos so you can regain consciousness.
Are you in the Lane Bryant catalog?
Yes I am, go order a subscription stalker. 
Let see your resume and portfolio "Tyra". You are claiming that you are a professional model yet you refuse to show us any of your work.
Thanks for calling me Tyra. Every once in a while people say I look like her. Stop asking for more pictures, because you don't have a chance with me. This is a weight loss forum, not a modeling critique.
Any liar can make make a #%@&! video and post it on You Tube. Roast? Do you mean a hog roast?
Keep spewing insults because the fact remains that you can not deny any of my claims. You are a short, RACIST , and ugly redneck with a small, uncircumcised penis. Le'st we forget your fat mother. Haha! Get your life together. Cut back on the steroids and use some of those funds for a therapist Mini-me.  Last edited on 13 Jul 2012 07:17 pm by babyen0330
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I just outed you.
Are you talking to me or to your sperm? Stop jacking off to my picture!
You would get rejected over her 10000000000 to one and you know it.?é?á You hate her and you hate the millions of men who would pick her over you in a heartbeat.
Nope, I get whoever I want, whenever I want, wherever I want. Even hillbillies like you. But again, you don't have a chance shorty.
I am under 6'
Of course, because I'm always right.
You are not a cow.
Thanks, I know. I'm a model.
You'd make a great bulimic.
And you would make a great candidate for leg extension surgery.
I can get you work modeling.
No thanks, I am already signed under contract until 2013.
I most certainly can deny your claims be cause you can't prove them.
You already confessed that I am right about everything. Now go crawl under a rock and suffocate.
You hate fat mothers...
Awwww! Did I hurt your feelings when I mentioned your fat, nasty mother? HAHAHAHAHA!
You hate White males and refer to them as redneck.
Nope, just you.
You hate all cultures who do not circumcise boys.
Nope. Your vienna sausage is the only one I hate. LOL!
AND LOL AGAIN! How many times are you going to post my picture before you jizz? Stop obsessing over me you freak!
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Babyen, you are perhaps the biggest liar to ever post on the Tough Love forum.
JSABD you are the BIGGEST MORON in the history of internet trolling. Get a job, and stop mooching off of your mommy. Real adults do not sit on a weight loss internet forum ALL DAY & NIGHT ON WEEKDAYS posting abrasive comments. One day, your mommy is going to get tired of you blowing up her internet bill and she is going to leave your c**p on the porch! HAhaha!
You are claiming to be 5'8"... Your body is less than 8 heads tall... The door frame and the high heels give you away. The grainy, poorly lighted, out of focus, snap shot is not anything a pro model would use or post online.
This comment confirms that you are a fat, balding, 40 year old, who lives in your mommy's basement. DID YOU REALLY just put on your glasses to eye-rape my picture. Stop measuring bodies with heads because yours is only half the size of a normal adult's. I am 5'9" which I said on this forum. I said 5'8" by mistake on my youtube video, so now I know that, not only are you stalking me on this forum, but you are stalking me on youtube too.
You are not a model nor could you ever be a model. Stop lying.
Who cares what you believe? At the end of the day, I get paid to be pretty and you don't get paid at all! HAHA! Get a job you bum!Last edited on 14 Jul 2012 10:02 am by babyen0330
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babyen0330 wrote: Babyen, you are perhaps the biggest liar to ever post on the Tough Love forum.
JSABD you are the BIGGEST MORON in the history of internet trolling. Get a job, and stop mooching off of your mommy. Real adults do not sit on a weight loss internet forum ALL DAY & NIGHT ON WEEKDAYS posting abrasive comments. One day, your mommy is going to get tired of you blowing up her internet bill and she is going to leave your c**p on the porch! HAhaha!
You have posted far more than I have fat girl.... a lot more. You have not posted a link to your resume nor your portfolio. You are a liar liar.
You are claiming to be 5'8"... Your body is less than 8 heads tall... The door frame and the high heels give you away. The grainy, poorly lighted, out of focus, snap shot is not anything a pro model would use or post online.
This comment confirms that you are a fat, balding, 40 year old, who lives in your mommy's basement. DID YOU REALLY just put on your glasses to eye-rape my picture. Stop measuring bodies with heads because yours is only half the size of a normal adult's. I am 5'9" which I said on this forum. I said 5'8" by mistake on my youtube video, so now I know that, not only are you stalking me on this forum, but you are stalking me on youtube too.
5'8"? 5'9"? I didn't know they could pile turds that high. You even lie about your height. You look to be 5'4" at best. Judging by your melon head, the heels and the door casing you are not over 5'4". I didn't even watch the entire video. It was too painful to view.
About the only person who might stalk you would be a myopic hunter who mistakes you for a mountain gorilla.
You are not a model nor could you ever be a model. Stop lying.
Who cares what you believe? At the end of the day, I get paid to be pretty and you don't get paid at all! HAHA! Get a job you bum!
You can not prove that you are a model but you have proven that you are a liar and you are obese. Are you actually a drag queen?
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You have posted far more than I have fat girl.... a lot more. You have not posted a link to your resume nor your portfolio. You are a liar liar.
You like name calling right? But when I called you sad, lonely, short, fat, balding, 40 year old virgin, who lives in mommy's basement, you went crying to another forum for help. Hahahaha! Why? Because you dont have any friends! So you continue trolling the internet, in hopes to find an emotional connection with someone other that your fat mommy. Maybe you should ask mommy to cut off the internet, and use the savings to get some penis enhancing pills needledick. HAHAHAHAHAH!!
5'8"? 5'9"? I didn't know they could pile turds that high. You even lie about your height. You look to be 5'4" at best. Judging by your melon head, the heels and the door casing you are not over 5'4".?é?á
Haha! You cant decipher my height because you sit in mommy's basement with NO HUMAN CONTACT! beyond the internet! Leave the house loser. Or better yet, get up a clean. Any dweeb who site online 24/7 is definitely a hoarder. HAHAHA!
About the only person who might stalk you would be a myopic hunter who mistakes you for a mountain gorilla.]You are not a model nor could you ever be a model. Stop lying.
Hunters looking for gorillas? WAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Again, you are proving that you don't leave the house. What kind of desperate, lonely virgin actually imagines these things!  I bet you were the first in line when the Harry Potter book came out! Do you still collect Pokemon cards too?! HAHAHA! This is too much! You are more pathetic that I could have ever imagined!
You can not prove that you are a model but you have proven that you are a liar and you are obese. Are you actually a drag queen?
Are you actually a victim of bullying? Were you kicked and pushed in school, which led to you locking yourself up in your room YOU BUM! LOL! Keep 'em coming. Your whole life is a joke to me.
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babyen0330 wrote: You have posted far more than I have fat girl.... a lot more. You have not posted a link to your resume nor your portfolio. You are a liar liar.
You like name calling right? But when I called you sad, lonely, short, fat, balding, 40 year old virgin, who lives in mommy's basement, you went crying to another forum for help. Hahahaha! Why? Because you dont have any friends! So you continue trolling the internet, in hopes to find an emotional connection with someone other that your fat mommy. Maybe you should ask mommy to cut off the internet, and use the savings to get some penis enhancing pills needledick. HAHAHAHAHAH!!
Name calling? You are a fat girl.
Fat and balding? Look at my picture. You are a fat.
Your obsession with my penis is quite telling. Next to your fat body porn star Long Dong Silver would look small.
5'8"? 5'9"? I didn't know they could pile turds that high. You even lie about your height. You look to be 5'4" at best. Judging by your melon head, the heels and the door casing you are not over 5'4".
Haha! You cant decipher my height because you sit in mommy's basement with NO HUMAN CONTACT! beyond the internet! Leave the house loser. Or better yet, get up a clean. Any dweeb who site online 24/7 is definitely a hoarder. HAHAHA!
I can most certainly extrapolate your height and so can anyone else simply be looking at you blubber and the door frame.
About the only person who might stalk you would be a myopic hunter who mistakes you for a mountain gorilla.]You are not a model nor could you ever be a model. Stop lying.
Hunters looking for gorillas? WAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Again, you are proving that you don't leave the house. What kind of desperate, lonely virgin actually imagines these things! I bet you were the first in line when the Harry Potter book came out! Do you still collect Pokemon cards too?! HAHAHA! This is too much! You are more pathetic that I could have ever imagined!
I'm a hunter and I can see how you could be mistaken for a mountain gorilla or a character from Planet of the Apes. Have a banana Migilla Gorilla. SIMBA SIMBA UNGOWA UNGOWA
You look better with natural lighting.
You can not prove that you are a model but you have proven that you are a liar and you are obese. Are you actually a drag queen?
Are you actually a victim of bullying? Were you kicked and pushed in school, which led to you locking yourself up in your room YOU BUM! LOL! Keep 'em coming. Your whole life is a joke to me.
The general consensus is that you are a less than a 3. Face it, you fell out of an ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
You're so ugly when you walked in public everybody screamed terrorist attack!!
You're so ugly, when you sit in the sand, the cats try to bury you!
You're so ugly, every time you go out you get chased by the dog catcher.
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Name calling? You are a fat girl.
Fat and balding? Look at my picture. You are a fat.
Your obsession with my penis is quite telling. Next to your fat body porn star Long Dong Silver would look small.
Haha! That was a quick response LOSER! I can see that you sit online ALL DAY and refer to people on the internet forums as your "friends."
And EWWWWWW to your picture! I didn't even realize that you have a redneck mullet and BREASTS! Are YOU a drag queen you freak?
I can most certainly extrapolate your height and so can anyone else simply be looking at you blubber and the door frame.
Haha! Just because your head is so close to the doorknob in your picture, does not mean every doorway is made for midgets. You are standing straight up, with your b-cup titties facing the mirror, looking like a redneck, little d*ck loser who has NO MUSCLE whatsoever. Aren't short boys supposed to compensate for their height with lots of muscles? Ew! You can never protect a woman little one! 
I'm a hunter and I can see how you could be mistaken for a mountain gorilla or a character from Planet of the Apes.?é?á Have a banana Migilla Gorilla.?é?á SIMBA SIMBA UNGOWA UNGOWA
You're a hunter? OMG! WHAT A RACIST REDNECK LOSERRRR! Hahahahaha! I should have known you're a hunter through that mullet! Does carrying a big gun make you feel powerful little d*ck?
Your hands are so small that your ring is on your thumb! HAHAHAHA! You know what they say about small hands needled*ck! A real man could put that ring on his middle finger!Haha!
And why are your arms so long that they touch your knees redneck? Are you inbred? You look like a wrinkled, 50 year old white monkey with b-cup titties!
You look better with natural lighting.
WAHAHAHA! I'm glad to know that I made a difference in your life! You are so corny, that you researched a picture to post! Thats your fat mother who banged your uncle, you inbred, redneck trash! That's why your arms touch your kneecaps incest baby! HAHAHAAA!
The general consensus is that you are a less than a 3. Face it, you fell out of an ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. You're so ugly when you walked in public everybody screamed terrorist attack!! You're so ugly when you sit in the sand, the cats try to bury you! You're so ugly, every time you go out you get chased by the dog catcher.
Did you just say you're a terrorist? I bet you are! You look like a member of the KKK with that mullet, grandpa. Shouldn't you be chewing tobacco in your pick-up truck, white trash? How many NASCAR magazines do you have in the trailer Billy Bob? Get off the internet forums and go fishing like a good ol' boy you hideous inbred honky! Hahahahahaha! Last edited on 18 Jul 2012 10:57 am by babyen0330
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babyen0330 wrote: Name calling? You are a fat girl.
Fat and balding? Look at my picture. You are a fat.
Your obsession with my penis is quite telling. Next to your fat body porn star Long Dong Silver would look small.
Haha! That was a quick response LOSER! I can see that you sit online ALL DAY and refer to people on the internet forums as your "friends."
And EWWWWWW to your picture! I didn't even realize that you have a redneck mullet and BREASTS! Are YOU a drag queen you freak?
Quick response? Homo perfecto candido quib ad lib. Have a smart person translate it for you if you know any smart people.
Actually my hair is long all over. My pecs and broad shoulders and 16" biceps come from lifting weights. We both have a manly physique. Mine is that of a fit man and yours is that of a fat man. Your gut sticks out further than your milk jugs. You may have more body hair that I do. You fat girl with PCOS tend to sprout a lot of pig bristles.
Women are supposed to have a narrower waste than men. Your waste appears to be in the 40" range. That is revolting.
I can most certainly extrapolate your height and so can anyone else simply be looking at you blubber and the door frame.
Haha! Just because your head is so close to the doorknob in your picture, does not mean every doorway is made for midgets. You are standing straight up, with your b-cup titties facing the mirror, looking like a redneck, little d*ck loser who has NO MUSCLE whatsoever. Aren't short boys supposed to compensate for their height with lots of muscles? Ew! You can never protect a woman little one!
The racist undertones coming from your racist pie hole are now over tones. I don't think you will finding too many rednecks who support Obama. If you are going to play the race card at least learn to do it right.
The fact is I am over average height and weight. Your bigoted remarks about short men shows just how bigoted you really are. Nir is short but he is 10 times the man your daddy is assuming you know who your daddy is. If you had had a strong father you would not be the silly, vain and delusional fat girl you are today. You actually believe you are attractive. You are a fat ugly girl who is uglier on the inside. I can have my buddy Fat B post your picture on his blog and have his readers rate you on a scale of 1 - 10. Others have rated you less than a three. Fat B's readers are a mix of fitness people and fat admirers. Would you like their objective opinion?
I'm a hunter and I can see how you could be mistaken for a mountain gorilla or a character from Planet of the Apes. Have a banana Migilla Gorilla. SIMBA SIMBA UNGOWA UNGOWA
You're a hunter? OMG! WHAT A RACIST REDNECK LOSERRRR! Hahahahaha! I should have known you're a hunter through that mullet! Does carrying a big gun make you feel powerful little d*ck?
Your hands are so small that your ring is on your thumb! HAHAHAHA! You know what they say about small hands needled*ck! A real man could put that ring on his middle finger!Haha!
And why are your arms so long that they touch your knees redneck? Are you inbred? You look like a wrinkled, 50 year old white monkey with b-cup titties!
Most of the hunting I do is with a bow or black powder inline rifle.
Many people wear rings on their ring finger not their middle finger. I would not expect you to understand the symbolism and function of the thumb ring on a bow hunter.
You look better with natural lighting.
WAHAHAHA! I'm glad to know that I made a difference in your life! You are so corny, that you researched a picture to post! Thats your fat mother who banged your uncle, you inbred, redneck trash! That's why your arms touch your kneecaps incest baby! HAHAHAAA!
Ah even more racist remarks from Queen LaBeefa the plus sized model who has no portfolio, agency or job record.
The general consensus is that you are a less than a 3. Face it, you fell out of an ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. You're so ugly when you walked in public everybody screamed terrorist attack!! You're so ugly when you sit in the sand, the cats try to bury you! You're so ugly, every time you go out you get chased by the dog catcher.
Did you just say you're a terrorist? I bet you are! You look like a member of the KKK with that mullet, grandpa. Shouldn't you be chewing tobacco in your pick-up truck, white trash? How many NASCAR magazines do you have in the trailer Billy Bob? Get off the internet forums and go fishing like a good ol' boy you hideous inbred honky! Hahahahahaha!
Actually I am not a NASCAR fan. I prefer formula 1 racing. I do fish so I guess by your racist standards anyone who fishes is a redneck.
White men are not rejecting you because you are black. They are just rejecting you because you are even uglier on the inside.
Black NASCAR driver Joe Gibbs. Do you hate him too?
Do you really hate Tia Norfleet because she drives for NASCAR or do you hate her because she is 100 times better looking than you you silly vain fat girl and could actually have a career as a model?
Now it is time to rub a little salt in your wounds Queen LaBeefa. Here's another NASCAR driver -- Danica Patrick she too could be a model. I bet if you were to ask Joe Gibbs who he would rather be seen with, Danica, Tia or you it would not be you. Joe is a class act. He would not look at a fat ghetto girl like you.
You hate white people. Do you hate Asians too? You hate short people? You hate hunters and anglers. You hate NASCAR.
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Excuse the interruption you two but 7-11's actually the best convenience store to go to for healthy food. THey were the first ones to sell fruit, and now at least the one I was at yesterday had a whole cold case of cut fresh fruit, vegetables and salads.
And about that 64 ounce big gulp? Those huge insulated steins make great ice buckets, since they're about the same size as the ice bucket you'd see in a hotel. I use mine at my desk since the ice machine is on the other side of the building, and it's enough for cold drinks all day.
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Mrs_Slowski wrote:
Excuse the interruption you two but 7-11's actually the best convenience store to go to for healthy food. THey were the first ones to sell fruit, and now at least the one I was at yesterday had a whole cold case of cut fresh fruit, vegetables and salads.
And about that 64 ounce big gulp? Those huge insulated steins make great ice buckets, since they're about the same size as the ice bucket you'd see in a hotel. I use mine at my desk since the ice machine is on the other side of the building, and it's enough for cold drinks all day.
Thanks for the 411 on 7/11. It's good to see that they are acting responsibly. Colorado is the leanest state.
BABYen hates on a lot of people and she was hating on the "honky" "redneck" "inbreds" of the Southwest. She did spare the Hispanics and Indians. I guess that their complexion makes the connection for her but she probably hates them too.
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I'm staying out of that , it's so nasty and unrelated to anything involving obesity, weight loss or health that I don't really care.
Interesting you bring up the Native Americans though...Look what government food subsidies did to their obesity rate, namely white flour and vegetable oil.Last edited on 19 Jul 2012 06:17 pm by Mrs_Slowski
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BABYen hates on a lot of people and she was hating on the "honky" "redneck" "inbreds" of the Southwest. She did spare the Hispanics and Indians. I guess that their complexion makes the connection for her but she probably hates them too.
Take my username out of your posts you obsessed hillbilly! Mrs. Slowski was defending 711 so your response should have discussed 711 ONLY . I got my bachelors at UCDenver and my best friend STILL lives in Denver so how could I hate the Southwest?
2nd of all, I never said anything racist about any race (unless you consider all white people to be rednecks). I discussed A GROUP of low class members within the white race. And I have said a million times that I AM MIXED WITH INDIAN so how could I hate my own complexion? Everything that you say is stupid and annoying. I stopped responding to you a long time ago so keep my name off your lips ho.Last edited on 19 Jul 2012 09:12 pm by babyen0330
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| Lol Bayben my cousin is actually a proud pickup driving redneck chick. No offense taken here, of course your average Oregon redneck is simply someone who likes being outdoors camping hunting fishing, and of course drinking and country music. Now calling either one of us a hippie...them's fightin' words! XD
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Concerning the topic:
JSABD wrote:
Nir wrote: My brother is fat. He is almost obese. He has little awareness of this. It bothers me and my parents more than it does him. I (and my parents) can tell him he should lose weight, but it has no effect - he has no motivation. Clearly doing it for any of us is not interesting to him. Now, if I found a way to motivate him to lose weight for himself then it would get done. A few years back he was dieting with purpose when he was single, looking for a partner and believing this would increase his chances. Unfortunately for his health, he is not single at present.
Here is an interesting idea. Why should he lose weight? It would be be in his best interest but hedonistic gluttonous lust means more to him than personal responsibility. Is there really another provable reason? His food lust means more to him than his family. He like many fatlings may eat himself to death and his parents will be at his funeral but he doesn't care.
Doing it for selfish reasons rarely works. His motivation now is sex. Like many people as soon as he lands a spouse he will take her for granted and get fat. With fatlings eventually food means more to them than sex. It's easier and more available.
In my practice the people who are successful do it for altruistic reasons. They do it because it is the right thing to do.
To may way of think the most important reason to not me fat and unhealthy is family. People with that mind set are less likely to get fat or stay fat.
Although I agree that in the context of interpersonal relationships, chronic overeaters (to the point of illness) are selfish, but I find your psychological reasoning for this subject menial or lacking. Honestly, the same selfishness can be applied to suicide victims in that both groups end themselves often regardless of their support structures.
The parallel here is that the suffering individual cannot make the necessary connections with other people for those perspectives to matter, and unfortunately this phenomenon cannot be solved even by illumination; it feels like an impossible task to get someone in this mindset to understand that their life has some meaning to someone else.
Further, overeaters don't necessarily eat for pleasure. It's more of a compulsion/ritual or coping mechanism. Some bingers don't even taste what they're consuming.
"I have to do this for ME" illustrates that the speaker finally considers themself worthwhile enough to become healthy.
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babyen0330 wrote:
BABYen hates on a lot of people and she was hating on the "honky" "redneck" "inbreds" of the Southwest. She did spare the Hispanics and Indians. I guess that their complexion makes the connection for her but she probably hates them too.
Take my username out of your posts you obsessed hillbilly! Mrs. Slowski was defending 711 so your response should have discussed 711 ONLY . I got my bachelors at UCDenver and my best friend STILL lives in Denver so how could I hate the Southwest?
2nd of all, I never said anything racist about any race (unless you consider all white people to be rednecks). I discussed A GROUP of low class members within the white race. And I have said a million times that I AM MIXED WITH INDIAN so how could I hate my own complexion? Everything that you say is stupid and annoying. I stopped responding to you a long time ago so keep my name off your lips ho.
Racists live all over the US. You are a bigot and a racist. You have trashed short people are gays.
Since only Whites can be called rednecks it's racist and you know it since you are a racist.
So you are mixed with Indian? You are referring to Native Americans and what we refer to as Indians who refer to themselves as Native Americans so you are lying again Pocohontas.
Stop lying liar.
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Posted: 19 Jul 2012 09:49 pm |
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Monoch wrote:
Concerning the topic:
?é?á
JSABD wrote:
Nir wrote: My brother is fat. He is almost obese. He has little awareness of this. It bothers me and my parents more than it does him. I (and my parents) can tell him he should lose weight, but it has no effect - he has no motivation. Clearly doing it for any of us is not interesting to him. Now, if I found a way to motivate him to lose weight for himself then it would get done. A few years back he was dieting with purpose when he was single, looking for a partner and believing this would increase his chances. Unfortunately for his health, he is not single at present.
Here is an interesting idea. Why should he lose weight? It would be be in his best interest but hedonistic gluttonous lust means more to him than personal responsibility. Is there really another provable reason? His food lust means more to him than his family. He like many fatlings may eat himself to death and his parents will be at his funeral but he doesn't care.
Doing it for selfish reasons rarely works. His motivation now is sex. Like many people as soon as he lands a spouse he will take her for granted and get fat. With fatlings eventually food means more to them than sex. It's easier and more available.
In my practice the people who are successful do it for altruistic reasons. They do it because it is the right thing to do.
To may way of think the most important reason to not me fat and unhealthy is family. People with that mind set are less likely to get fat or stay fat.
Although I agree that in the context of interpersonal relationships, chronic overeaters (to the point of illness) are selfish, but I find your?é?ápsychological reasoning for this subject menial or lacking.?é?áHonestly, the same selfishness can be applied to?é?ásuicide victims?é?áin that?é?áboth groups end themselves often regardless of their support structures.
The parallel here is that the suffering individual cannot make the necessary connections with other people for those perspectives to matter, and unfortunately this phenomenon cannot be solved even by illumination; it feels like an impossible task to get someone in this mindset?é?áto understand that their life has some meaning to someone else.
Further, overeaters don't necessarily eat for pleasure. It's more of a compulsion/ritual or coping mechanism. Some bingers don't even taste what they're consuming.
"I have to do this for ME" illustrates that the speaker finally considers themself worthwhile enough to become healthy.
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I have to do this for me is an escape route for gluttons. The reason that they are fat because they have low self esteem and the reason that they continue their gluttonous ways is that they have not yet had the epiphany that made them love themselves enough to be responsible.
Gluttons are shortsighted. They can't/won't/don't think past lunch and I mean that both figurative and literally.
They care about their selfish hedonistic pleasure.
More later..
Most fat people don't have eating disorders and they do eat for pleasure. Pleasurable foods are fattening but they eat them anyway. There are substitutes that are not quite as tasty but they rarely make substitutions.
What they "have to do" in most cases is cut their calories by 500 to 1000 calories a day but they won't do it. That is what getting to and maintaining a healthy weight is all about and they know it but are unwilling to do it.
If you ask a fatling for why they want to lose weight the answers almost always contains a flood of personal pro nouns. They rarely list anyone else as a victim of their behavior. They don't consider anyone but themselves. Junk food trumps all.
Fatlings are always looking to buy their way thin with hair brained schemes that promise no work on their part.Last edited on 19 Jul 2012 10:22 pm by JSABD
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JSABD wrote:
I have to do this for me is an escape route for gluttons.
I?óÔé¼Ôäóm not sure if you meant for this analogy to be positive or negative, but as it reads, ?óÔé¼?£escape route?óÔé¼Ôäó conveys an optimistic alternative or solution, in which case I agree. Yes, ?óÔé¼?ôI have to do this for ME?óÔé¼?Ø is an escape route from the pessimistic thinking that clouds the judgment of many people. That?óÔé¼Ôäós not a bad thing.
Most fat people don't have eating disorders and they do eat for pleasure.
I would like to see some sort of reference regarding your first statement here. I haven?óÔé¼Ôäót found statistics regarding the number of overweight people with/without eating disorders and would be interested in said material regardless of whether or not it supports my POV.
As it appears now, such a statement depends on how eating disorders are categorized. The DSM includes anorexia nervosa, bulimia, and binge-eating disorder, but these conditions tend to overlap and are all generally guided by emotions. One of the major differences between someone with binge-eating disorder and another with bulimia is that the former doesn?óÔé¼Ôäót later compensate their compulsive behaviors, leading them to weight gain.
Emotionally driven neurotic eating IS disordered eating. Whether or not many overweight people have this disorder is up for debate (I?óÔé¼Ôäóll seek out some statistics) but it is a legitimate condition.
Pleasurable foods are fattening but they eat them anyway. There are substitutes that are not quite as tasty but they rarely make substitutions.
The habits of binge-eaters vary, but they do prefer high-calorie foods for the full sensation or ones linked to positive memories ?óÔé¼ÔÇ£ however, it?óÔé¼Ôäós not always cakes, cookies, chips etc. but also crackers, meats, breads, eggs.
What they "have to do" in most cases is cut their calories by 500 to 1000 calories a day but they won't do it. That is what getting to and maintaining a healthy weight is all about and they know it but are unwilling to do it.
I agree that cutting calories and exercising will result in weight loss, but the psychological issues (that may have lead to their extra weight) are likely to remain and manifest as different conditions.
If you ask a fatling for why they want to lose weight the answers almost always contains a flood of personal pro nouns. They rarely list anyone else as a victim of their behavior. They don't consider anyone but themselves. Junk food trumps all.
If you ask anyone a personal question it?óÔé¼Ôäós probably going to contain many pronouns because it?óÔé¼Ôäós a) answered in first person and b) a personal question. It?óÔé¼Ôäós not necessarily indicative of selfishness and I?óÔé¼Ôäóm not sure how you came to that conclusion?óÔé¼?ª?
I agree that people who consume food to illness are selfish ?óÔé¼ÔÇ£ they are not considering their loved ones in their decisions ?óÔé¼ÔÇ£ but these are also often conditions purposefully suffered alone. Binge-eating is most often done in the absence of anyone, as is regurgitating and other methods of quick weight loss. They spend so much time separating these events from others that it?óÔé¼Ôäós easy to continue such a pattern.
It?óÔé¼Ôäós even natural.
It?óÔé¼Ôäós hella unhealthy.
?óÔé¼?ôI have to do this for ME?óÔé¼?Ø still doesn?óÔé¼Ôäót render any negative reaction from me. It?óÔé¼Ôäós telling of a healthier mind and the beginning of resolving psychological and emotional issues.
The answers would be more easily reached if human consciousness was a simpler reaction, but it?óÔé¼Ôäós not.
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JSABD
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 10:13 pm |
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Monoch wrote: JSABD wrote:
I have to do this for me is an escape route for gluttons.
I?óÔé¼Ôäóm not sure if you meant for this analogy to be positive or negative, but as it reads, ?óÔé¼?£escape route?óÔé¼Ôäó conveys an optimistic alternative or solution, in which case I agree. Yes, ?óÔé¼?ôI have to do this for ME?óÔé¼?Ø is an escape route from the pessimistic thinking that clouds the judgment of many people. That?óÔé¼Ôäós not a bad thing.
The escape is and escape from responsibility. They then add to that. I have to be ready to do this or I need to figure out why I eat too much. It is a stalling tactic. They will continue that loop the same as a drunk or a druggie. They will conveniently never figure out the mystery for why they chronically eat too much.
Most fat people don't have eating disorders and they do eat for pleasure.
I would like to see some sort of reference regarding your first statement here. I haven?óÔé¼Ôäót found statistics regarding the number of overweight people with/without eating disorders and would be interested in said material regardless of whether or not it supports my POV.
As it appears now, such a statement depends on how eating disorders are categorized. The DSM includes anorexia nervosa, bulimia, and binge-eating disorder, but these conditions tend to overlap and are all generally guided by emotions. One of the major differences between someone with binge-eating disorder and another with bulimia is that the former doesn?óÔé¼Ôäót later compensate their compulsive behaviors, leading them to weight gain.
Emotionally driven neurotic eating IS disordered eating. Whether or not many overweight people have this disorder is up for debate (I?óÔé¼Ôäóll seek out some statistics) but it is a legitimate condition.
If you don't have the evidence pro or con I would suggest you find some before implying that I am wrong. In the US there are around 100,000 people with anorexia nervosa and less than 100 deaths per year form it.
The notion that the explosion of obesity in the last 20 years is the result of mental illness is patently absurd. There are a lot of idiots and charlatans who make money off the ED scam and there are a lot of gluttons looking for an escape and absolution but EDs are rare and overly diagnosed.
The DSM is a joke. It is written and revised by the psychiatric industry that makes its money on disease and exploiting it.
Eating feels good because it is supposed to feel good but there is something called restraint and temperance.
Pleasurable foods are fattening but they eat them anyway. There are substitutes that are not quite as tasty but they rarely make substitutions.
The habits of binge-eaters vary, but they do prefer high-calorie foods for the full sensation or ones linked to positive memories ?óÔé¼ÔÇ£ however, it?óÔé¼Ôäós not always cakes, cookies, chips etc. but also crackers, meats, breads, eggs.
What they "have to do" in most cases is cut their calories by 500 to 1000 calories a day but they won't do it. That is what getting to and maintaining a healthy weight is all about and they know it but are unwilling to do it.
I agree that cutting calories and exercising will result in weight loss, but the psychological issues (that may have lead to their extra weight) are likely to remain and manifest as different conditions.
If you ask a fatling for why they want to lose weight the answers almost always contains a flood of personal pro nouns. They rarely list anyone else as a victim of their behavior. They don't consider anyone but themselves. Junk food trumps all.
If you ask anyone a personal question it?óÔé¼Ôäós probably going to contain many pronouns because it?óÔé¼Ôäós a) answered in first person and b) a personal question. It?óÔé¼Ôäós not necessarily indicative of selfishness and I?óÔé¼Ôäóm not sure how you came to that conclusion?óÔé¼?ª?
I agree that people who consume food to illness are selfish ?óÔé¼ÔÇ£ they are not considering their loved ones in their decisions ?óÔé¼ÔÇ£ but these are also often conditions purposefully suffered alone. Binge-eating is most often done in the absence of anyone, as is regurgitating and other methods of quick weight loss. They spend so much time separating these events from others that it?óÔé¼Ôäós easy to continue such a pattern.
It?óÔé¼Ôäós even natural.
It?óÔé¼Ôäós hella unhealthy.
?óÔé¼?ôI have to do this for ME?óÔé¼?Ø still doesn?óÔé¼Ôäót render any negative reaction from me. It?óÔé¼Ôäós telling of a healthier mind and the beginning of resolving psychological and emotional issues.
On the surface "I have to do this for me" sounds reasonable but is it a flawed premise on several levels. First off the don't have to do anything. They would be better off saying, "it would be in MY best interest".
Next to that it would be in the best interest of everyone for them to cease their gluttony. This puts it to can't VS won't. All we can all agree that they don't eat responsibly.
The answers would be more easily reached if human consciousness was a simpler reaction, but it?óÔé¼Ôäós not.
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Mrs_Slowski
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Posted: 21 Jul 2012 02:44 am |
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Something I never noticed before-
"I have to do this" whether its for themselves or someone else is just a setup for the word BUT...
If it mattered so much that they really believed they HAD to do something , never mind who for, they'd be doing it.
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JSABD
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Posted: 24 Jul 2012 05:59 pm |
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Mrs_Slowski wrote: Something I never noticed before-
"I have to do this" whether its for themselves or someone else is just a setup for the word BUT...
If it mattered so much that they really believed they HAD to do something , never mind who for, they'd be doing it.
EXACTLY!
In all actuality they don't "have to" "do it". It would be in the best interest of their kids if they did but they don't and won't. Food means more to them.
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Posted: 25 Jul 2012 05:36 am |
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I think that's the difference. After seeing the results of obesity from my Uncle And Father in law, I was just plain scared.
Do I have to this? Yeah , I do because I have to be able to get outside. I have to keep my legs, feet and toes because those are what meet with the pedals. I love my family and husband, but the life of a housebound obese person is as close to #%@&! as I ever hope to see. I HAVE to avoid ending up in that kind of zombied-out TV and food centric existence.
And pretty close to "have to" - I want to keep all the neurons I have firing. The change in personality after a stroke is just tragic. I miss my father in law's sense of humor so much.
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