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JSABD
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Posted: 27 Dec 2011 01:48 am |
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1 Why do you want to lose weight and improve your health?
2 On a scale of 1 -10 how badly do you want to get to the correct weight?
3 On a scale of 1 -10 how hard do you want to work towards that goal?
4 What are all your reasons for why you think you can't do it?
Give this some thought and answer honestly.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 28 Dec 2011 03:52 am |
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JSABD
In your opinion what's a "10" level of effort?
To me that would be quit the job, cash in the 401k and ride the Lewis and Clark route from Astoria to MO, then the Oregon Trail back from Independence to Oregon city. It's still cheaper than the full cost of gastric bypass!
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Dec 2011 05:13 am |
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Tankgirl wrote: JSABD
In your opinion what's a "10" level of effort?
To me that would be quit the job, cash in the 401k and ride the Lewis and Clark route from Astoria to MO, then the Oregon Trail back from Independence to Oregon city. It's still cheaper than the full cost of gastric bypass! A 10 would be no cheating and eating only wholesome food along with a lot of exercise.
Also, putting an end to any fattitude is part of it.
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frequency
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Posted: 4 Apr 2012 06:18 pm |
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This past 2 days I have understood that the REASONS and LEVELS within the reasons to lose weight have all been around
Beauty
Health
But this site has put on the table the MORAL aspect of a Glutton person. where I am selfish with a huge ego, not caring about people around me...
My true vanity came alive in seconds, because I am the typical girl, overweight with (supposley) too nice to hurt a fly, never bad words, always the listener, the amazing friend... the poor girl..
But now I am a selfish-bitch within this forum.. (jajajajahahahah).. wow..! it feels so empower to know this, because getting out of the dress of a victim feels good. I guess the reasons and levels of the reasons to lose weight are shifting as I keep reading, so I will have to get back to this question. I just wanted to point out how closed minded I have been for the past 20 years, following the same path and never getting the root of my own personal reason why I didn't had CONTROL of this before.
I guess we are all different, this is just working beautiful for me, a special thanks to JSABD for taking the time to keep jumping here and wake us up...
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JSABD
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Posted: 5 Apr 2012 01:18 pm |
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frequency wrote: This past 2 days I have understood that the REASONS and LEVELS within the reasons to lose weight have all been around
Beauty
Health
But this site has put on the table the MORAL aspect of a Glutton person. where I am selfish with a huge ego, not caring about people around me...
My true vanity came alive in seconds, because I am the typical girl, overweight with (supposley) too nice to hurt a fly, never bad words, always the listener, the amazing friend... the poor girl..
But now I am a selfish-bitch within this forum.. (jajajajahahahah).. wow..! it feels so empower to know this, because getting out of the dress of a victim feels good. I guess the reasons and levels of the reasons to lose weight are shifting as I keep reading, so I will have to get back to this question. I just wanted to point out how closed minded I have been for the past 20 years, following the same path and never getting the root of my own personal reason why I didn't had CONTROL of this before.
I guess we are all different, this is just working beautiful for me, a special thanks to JSABD for taking the time to keep jumping here and wake us up...
This is one of the best things I have read on this forum!
We are bombarded with ego centric messages in the media 100's of times a day. We are given impossible standards and we think that reaching those silly vain standards is all we need for our self-esteem. We are then told how special we are when se are not. Today, every kid on every team gets a trophy because we don't want to hurt the losers' self -esteem. Self-esteem is an illness. It is ultimately self defeating because it is conditional. By conditional I mean... here are some examples: "I will be OK if I had bigger boobs" "It will help my self-esteem if I made a lot of money" "It will help my self esteem if I get a new car" "It will help my self-esteem if I had really ripped abs"
The glutton should not be disgusted with himself but with his behavior.
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frequency
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Posted: 6 Apr 2012 12:44 am |
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JSABD wrote:
The glutton should not be disgusted with himself but with his behavior.
I LOVE this statements, it continues expanding my responsibility.
I spend all day observing people eating (my family, me, friends), as the day ended I went to give my father his 5th shot of insulin (Diabetes). He should have only 3 shots of Insulin a day, but he eats chocolate prior of eating breakfast, then in between meals and it's impossible for me to get his sugar stable. So as USUAL i started raising my voice to him, asking him to give me a hand, being more responsible because I can't follow him around all day long, bla bla bla... all the drama, hoping he will GET IT..! one day..
His memory is not lucid all the time, so since last year that went into heart surgery I have been taking care of him full time, and the insulin is a huge mess because he eats all day long chocolates and HE DOESN'T CARE or respects my time, he only cares about eating all day long and watching tv.
Everyday I get FURIOUS that he is doing this TO ME..! but today realized I am the same, eating without caring about nothing else but my satisfaction...
I thought when I stopped my addiction to coke, I was being the best human being, that if I became fat/eat a lot, that behavior at least wasn't going to hurt no-one...
wow..! shocking that I had it all this time right in front of me, my dad's life, and I just didn't put it all together... how can we be so blind, specially if I HATE the fact that he didn't care...
thanks for all the words, I am in AWE with all this... I enroll with a doctor to have a great supervision and won't go into extremes and well, I need more tough love until I have GRASP all the ramifications from Gluttony...
gracias.. (thanks)
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JSABD
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Posted: 7 Apr 2012 01:14 am |
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frequency wrote: JSABD wrote:
The glutton should not be disgusted with himself but with his behavior.
I LOVE this statements, it continues expanding my responsibility.
I spend all day observing people eating (my family, me, friends), as the day ended I went to give my father his 5th shot of insulin (Diabetes). He should have only 3 shots of Insulin a day, but he eats chocolate prior of eating breakfast, then in between meals and it's impossible for me to get his sugar stable. So as USUAL i started raising my voice to him, asking him to give me a hand, being more responsible because I can't follow him around all day long, bla bla bla... all the drama, hoping he will GET IT..! one day..
His memory is not lucid all the time, so since last year that went into heart surgery I have been taking care of him full time, and the insulin is a huge mess because he eats all day long chocolates and HE DOESN'T CARE or respects my time, he only cares about eating all day long and watching tv.
Everyday I get FURIOUS that he is doing this TO ME..! but today realized I am the same, eating without caring about nothing else but my satisfaction...
I thought when I stopped my addiction to coke, I was being the best human being, that if I became fat/eat a lot, that behavior at least wasn't going to hurt no-one...
wow..! shocking that I had it all this time right in front of me, my dad's life, and I just didn't put it all together... how can we be so blind, specially if I HATE the fact that he didn't care...
thanks for all the words, I am in AWE with all this... I enroll with a doctor to have a great supervision and won't go into extremes and well, I need more tough love until I have GRASP all the ramifications from Gluttony...
gracias.. (thanks)
How old are you?
It sounds like you have been abused by the fact that you have been a care taker to your parents. That is so unfair.
Seeing your dad slowly kill himself must me horrible for you. The drugs and the food was your way of coping. There are better ways to cope. Love yourself enough to know that you don't deserve the abuse and that you need to escape it either by leaving or confronting it.
You have been using food like a drug to salve your pain. Most fat people simply eat for pleasure that they don't deserve. You are/were in pain.
You may have to cut the connection with the people who are dragging you down. You did not cause their gluttony nor can you cure it for them.
You can try putting your foot down and tossing out all the junk food and demanding that they eat responsibly.
Cook their meals. Make them bland and low calorie with lots of fiber.
A great resource on nutrition here on CPH is Nir. He's the admin and he's very bright and knowledgeable.
You are ready to get the weight off and reprogram your mind and body so that it never comes back.
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frequency
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Posted: 8 Apr 2012 12:00 am |
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Hi, thanks for all the support. I had the courage to weight myself today after 3 days here, my hight is 5'6, single, 41 years and i knew it was going to be very hard to see the scale today, I knew it's the worst of my life:
An Outstanding 197.6
YEP, this is me..! but the shift has happen. So I guess all will be better from now on...Thanks a lot, this forum REALY wakes people up...
keep being this BLUNT...
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JSABD
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Posted: 8 Apr 2012 01:47 am |
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frequency wrote: Hi, thanks for all the support. I had the courage to weight myself today after 3 days here, my hight is 5'6, single, 41 years and i knew it was going to be very hard to see the scale today, I knew it's the worst of my life:
An Outstanding 197.6
YEP, this is me..! but the shift has happen. So I guess all will be better from now on...Thanks a lot, this forum REALY wakes people up...
keep being this BLUNT...
You are not over eating "fueling" by all that much.
Here are your current numbers:
- Resting (basal) metabolic rate: 1877 calories per day
- Typical daily activities: 845 calories per day
- Total calories burned: 2722 per day
2722 is the number of calories required for a 41 year old female to maintain 198 pounds
To maintain 140 pounds you would need to eat a little over 1900 calories a day.
You are eating about 800 calories more than you should. That's really easy to do. That's your average cheese Danish 266 calories, a 20 oz Coke 240 and 3 cubic inches of cheese. That's 800 calories.
Both meal have the same amount of calories. You would have a tough time finishing the one on the bottom whereas the one on the top would be gone in a few swift bites.
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