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JSABD
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Posted: 30 Aug 2011 03:50 pm |
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I would like to see how your mind works. Let's see some rationalization, excuses and cop outs.
Those of you who have lost your fattitude, feel free to chime in with the excuses you may have made that you knew were lies.
Gluttony in the Bible (King James Version) - Proverbs 23:20-21 "Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags."
- Proverbs 23:2 "And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite."
- Luke 7:33-35 "For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil. The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners! But wisdom is justified of all her children."
The truth of the matter is it you are fat it means you are probably a glutton or gourmand. You are a hedonist. Unless and until you admit that you will probably always be a fatling.
Last edited on 30 Aug 2011 03:59 pm by JSABD
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Nionya
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Posted: 6 Sep 2011 02:32 am |
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 I am struggling every day. Every day I tell myself "I should not eat this, why am I eating this, I need to get outside, I need to move, I need to get off my #%@&!" Every day I FAIL!
I am not here to leave excuses, I know I am in control of my own emotions, my own actions, not a soul on this earth can control what I do or don't do, but...I have lived with an anxiety disorder since I was 14. My son was diagnosed with Autism last year, I have spiraled out of control. Anxiety is back, and the comfort of food is a monster!
I believe what you have posted, I am a glutton. I look for food for my comfort instead of looking to God, whom is supposed to be number 1 in my life.
I am pathetic! I was rasied by overweight parents, taken to McDonalds as a treat, eaten horrible my entire life.
My cholestrol is 212, I am 260 pounds and I am only 5'6". Sure, I can say, I am a large framed woman, I have huge boobs, I make excuses all the time....but...when I am getting out of the tub, and it is difficult to do so, I just want to scream!
I just registered. I need help. I need someone to kick my #%@&!. My husband is afraid to, I ask him to, but he says I will get #%@&! and yell at him. He wont yell back...
My mother, she had bypass surgery 5 years ago...I am on my way..
I am miserable..I am beautiful, but not now..I am just fat, lazy, messy. Pony tails, no make up, tee shirts and stretchy shorts. :( I put pictures up of my shoulders up, too embaressed to show me from the shoulders down.
I can go on and on, but I won't...Thank you for that post. It is what made me register.
Last edited on 6 Sep 2011 02:45 am by Nionya
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Smarty
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Posted: 6 Sep 2011 08:31 pm |
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OK, I don't necesesarily agree with the initial post. But, have you read Gary Taubes "Why We Get Fat and What To Do About It"? I think you will find a great deal of information that will convince you not to be so hard on yourself and you will even find a solution to your weight problems.
I wish you the very best of luck!
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JSABD
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Posted: 6 Sep 2011 09:08 pm |
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Nionya wrote: I am struggling every day. Every day I tell myself "I should not eat this, why am I eating this, I need to get outside, I need to move, I need to get off my #%@&!" Every day I FAIL!
I am not here to leave excuses, I know I am in control of my own emotions, my own actions, not a soul on this earth can control what I do or don't do, but...I have lived with an anxiety disorder since I was 14. My son was diagnosed with Autism last year, I have spiraled out of control. Anxiety is back, and the comfort of food is a monster!
I believe what you have posted, I am a glutton. I look for food for my comfort instead of looking to God, whom is supposed to be number 1 in my life.
I am pathetic! I was rasied by overweight parents, taken to McDonalds as a treat, eaten horrible my entire life.
My cholestrol is 212, I am 260 pounds and I am only 5'6". Sure, I can say, I am a large framed woman, I have huge boobs, I make excuses all the time....but...when I am getting out of the tub, and it is difficult to do so, I just want to scream!
I just registered. I need help. I need someone to kick my #%@&!. My husband is afraid to, I ask him to, but he says I will get #%@&! and yell at him. He wont yell back...
My mother, she had bypass surgery 5 years ago...I am on my way..
I am miserable..I am beautiful, but not now..I am just fat, lazy, messy. Pony tails, no make up, tee shirts and stretchy shorts. :( I put pictures up of my shoulders up, too embaressed to show me from the shoulders down.
I can go on and on, but I won't...Thank you for that post. It is what made me register.
Asses do get kicked here but this is tough love.
I don't yell and scream like you see on those fat exploitation shows. hat I do is a confront the BS and help fatlings destroy the fattitude.
You have fattitude. You are dressing like a fat girl and you are not thinking of hubby.
You mention God. Some religious people believe that their bodies are on loan from God and they are stewards of these bodies. Christians call the body the temple of the Holy Spirit. I won't comment much on that as it is between you and your faith.
Do you love your loved ones more than food?
Guilt and shame only goes so far now let's apply some logic.
At 260 pounds you are eating twice as much as is required. There are may ways to label what you are doing. Over fueling? Caloric Poisoning? Gormandizing? Chronically pigging out?
We are supposed to enjoy food but in moderation. The early monks would put ashes on their food to dull the flavor. I am not sure if they needed to back then but today's food is designed you bring out craving and stimulate the pleasure centers. If you moved to Japan and ate like the Japanese do you would lose weight. It's easy to get fat in the US. Asians in the US get fat but not like Whites and Blacks. This is not to let you off the hook and say that it is not your fault. You caused it and only you can cure it but you did have help.
Let's apply some science and create a plan that you can stay with.
Calculate your BMR Basal Metabolic Rate using this calculator. http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/calories.shtml
If you accurately count your calories and eat at your BMR you will lose about 2.5 pounds a week. When you reach 230 recalculate. The recalculate at 200. At that point you will lose 2 pound per week.
Never eat below your BMR and eat slightly above it when you start exercising.
Tankgirl/woman came up with good meal plans. She is eating 6 balanced meals a day that total her BMR. That is the best way to retrain your brain and keep hunger at under control.
Reform is a slow process but it doesn't have to be hard. You seem sufficiently contrite nd that's a good thing. Now I want you to feel empowered.
You can and you will do this.
Last edited on 6 Sep 2011 09:09 pm by JSABD
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Nionya
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Posted: 7 Sep 2011 10:29 am |
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I am eating for the sake of eating. I eat to seek comfort from the chatter in my head. It is an immediate "fix" to my anxieties and worry.
Does it work? Absolutely NOT! Do I get #%@&!? #%@&! yes I do!!
Do I know what I am doing wrong? Yes! Do I realize I am better than that? Sure do! Do I realize I am making my own life miserable, thus the people around me miserable as well..I sure do.
While your apporach to this "Fattitude" Is comended on my part. Your ability to open peoples eyes. It's a bit over the top (after reading these forums).
America has issues, you know it, and so does everyone else.
Fast food....should be banned, processed #%@&!..the same.
If we did not have such horrible things so easily at our disposal we would be much better off.
Now, I am not going to run off and blame the corporations for making us fat, because, we are all in control of our own destiny. What I will do is say, they should be made harder to obtain.
It pisses me off when I can not walk to a farmer's market of any choice, but I can walk to a McDonalds, Burger Kind and a Whataburger. The Farmers Market we had on the corner, just CLOSED DOWN.
I know what choices I have to make..I am not lazy, I have my nursing degree, I take care of my 4 year old Autistic son, and 11 year old. I run on my ellitptical machine for 30 minutes (better than nothing). I just sabotage myself, when I run in the kitchen and grab that cookie because "it will make me feel better" For the 30 seconds it took me to eat it.
I am mad, I am very mad. Mad at myself, mad at society, mad at the way people commend an unhealthy lifestyle.
I am going to do my best to get this #%@&! off of me. I hate it, it is nasty! I keep my white mini skirt hanging in my bathroom as motivation..guess what...it just makes me go eat more. I look at it, get depressed, pity my flab and run off for another cookie...Then I get even more disgruntled.
Argh! Guess I need to be mad at the food, if I hate the food maybe I won't pick it up? :)
Okay, I am done rambling. Gonna go find something healthy for breakfast. And get my arse moving.
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JSABD
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Posted: 7 Sep 2011 05:00 pm |
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Nionya wrote: I am eating for the sake of eating. I eat to seek comfort from the chatter in my head. It is an immediate "fix" to my anxieties and worry.
It's irrational to use food as medicine. If you really have anxiety issues get the right help for them. Salving them with food will only allow them to grow along with your waist line. Also being fat and eating a fat girl's diet will not help your brain and mental health. Knock it off and eat responsibly. You want to be slender over night. You have about 18 months ahead of you.
Does it work? Absolutely NOT! Do I get #%@&!? #%@&! yes I do!!
Do I know what I am doing wrong? Yes! Do I realize I am better than that? Sure do! Do I realize I am making my own life miserable, thus the people around me miserable as well..I sure do.
Then stop doing it! Give me all the reasons for why you think you can't.
While your apporach to this "Fattitude" Is comended on my part. Your ability to open peoples eyes. It's a bit over the top (after reading these forums).
We need to get people's attention. I call it Shock and Awe!! 
America has issues, you know it, and so does everyone else.
It is called decadence.
Fast food....should be banned, processed #%@&!..the same.
No, fast food in moderation is OK. Gluttony should be ridiculed and I ridicule it.
If we did not have such horrible things so easily at our disposal we would be much better off.
Self control. Look up the 7 deadly sins and 7 heavenly virtues.
Now, I am not going to run off and blame the corporations for making us fat, because, we are all in control of our own destiny. What I will do is say, they should be made harder to obtain.
America is a greedy thoughtless country and money means more than anything else. They don't care if they are enabling glutton. It is in their financial interest to do it.
I know what choices I have to make..I am not lazy, I have my nursing degree, I take care of my 4 year old Autistic son, and 11 year old. I run on my ellitptical machine for 30 minutes (better than nothing). I just sabotage myself, when I run in the kitchen and grab that cookie because "it will make me feel better" For the 30 seconds it took me to eat it.
Don't have those food around. If you were a recovering alcoholic you would not have a 6 pack of beer in the fridge. Gluttony is as bad as alcoholism and it kills more and costs more. Make it harder to sabotage yourself. Stay a way from temptation.
I am mad, I am very mad. Mad at myself, mad at society, mad at the way people commend an unhealthy lifestyle.
Calm down and take a smart and scientific approach to this. Use that anger in a positive way.
I am going to do my best to get this #%@&! off of me. I hate it, it is nasty! I keep my white mini skirt hanging in my bathroom as motivation..guess what...it just makes me go eat more. I look at it, get depressed, pity my flab and run off for another cookie...Then I get even more disgruntled.
Get rational and fight the real enemy. Fat is not the enemy. This is not a war. This is a quest for better health.
Argh! Guess I need to be mad at the food, if I hate the food maybe I won't pick it up? :)
Okay, I am done rambling. Gonna go find something healthy for breakfast. And get my arse moving.
There you go! 
Follow the plan and the ft will take care of itself!
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