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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 4 Aug 2011 03:23 am |
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The hags in the fat acceptance movement will tell you that fat blubbery women are real women. The photo above is what real women look like.
Real women stay fit for their loved ones and sexy for their man.
Any questions?
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 5 Aug 2011 01:25 am |
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Yea, I have a question. So if fat women are not "REAL" women than what are they, fake women????
According to your list of fat acceptance fatling traits I am not a fat acceptance fattling at all. I am however overweight/fat and I'm just curious as to what kind of woman you think I am if I'm not a real woman. This oughta be good.
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 5 Aug 2011 04:53 am |
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MichelleP wrote: Yea, I have a question. So if fat women are not "REAL" women than what are they, fake women????
According to your list of fat acceptance fatling traits I am not a fat acceptance fattling at all. I am however overweight/fat and I'm just curious as to what kind of woman you think I am if I'm not a real woman. This oughta be good.
I refer to fat females as girls and fat males as boys.
Since you are fat you chose food over mindful eating. Women denotes a mature adult human female. Mature females behave responsibly. You know what you need to do not to be fat but you haven't done it. Does that sound mature to you?
This was good and I hope you get some good out of it.
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 5 Aug 2011 10:19 am |
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Okay, so from your point of view I'm an immature girl because I'm still fat. I haven't been called a girl for many years, find this amusing, and thank you for a good laugh to get me going this morning. Would you say that all thin females are mature just because they are thin? Is there no other criterion for a female's womanhood other than the size of her waist? Success in every other area of life would still not deem a female a woman in your eyes if she were fat?
I do know what it takes to not be fat, basically mindful eating of healthy foods while keeping calories within an acceptable range for losing. It's not rocket science but it is hard to maintain the proper mindset at times.
I lost 90 pounds, then gained back 20 pounds of which I'm currently working on losing. During the time that I got fat in the first place and again when I gained back 20 pounds I was obviously not making mindful eating a priority and I can see how that could be labelled as being immature. But what about when I did lose 90 pounds and what about now when I'm working on losing again, wouldn't that be seen as mature? Or because I am still fat in the process am I still an immature girl even though I'm making mature womanly decisions? At what point will I be considered a woman again, is there a set weight for each female that deems her a woman?
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 5 Aug 2011 07:44 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: Okay, so from your point of view I'm an immature girl because I'm still fat. I haven't been called a girl for many years, find this amusing, and thank you for a good laugh to get me going this morning. Would you say that all thin females are mature just because they are thin? Is there no other criterion for a female's womanhood other than the size of her waist? Success in every other area of life would still not deem a female a woman in your eyes if she were fat?
I do know what it takes to not be fat, basically mindful eating of healthy foods while keeping calories within an acceptable range for losing. It's not rocket science but it is hard to maintain the proper mindset at times.
I lost 90 pounds, then gained back 20 pounds of which I'm currently working on losing. During the time that I got fat in the first place and again when I gained back 20 pounds I was obviously not making mindful eating a priority and I can see how that could be labelled as being immature. But what about when I did lose 90 pounds and what about now when I'm working on losing again, wouldn't that be seen as mature? Or because I am still fat in the process am I still an immature girl even though I'm making mature womanly decisions? At what point will I be considered a woman again, is there a set weight for each female that deems her a woman?
You have to ask yourself those questions. You may want to see if you need some woman training.
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 5 Aug 2011 10:52 pm |
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Since you seem to think you are the authority on what a real woman is I was asking you and I would still like to hear your answers to these questions:
Would you say that all thin females are mature just because they are thin? Is there no other criterion for a female's womanhood other than the size of her waist? Success in every other area of life would still not deem a female a woman in your eyes if she were fat? Also when a female is losing weight is she still considered a girl because she is still fat, even though she is making mature choices?
I am already quite aware that I am a woman, fat and all, so no womanly training is needed.
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 5 Aug 2011 11:57 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: Since you seem to think you are the authority on what a real woman is I was asking you and I would still like to hear your answers to these questions:
Would you say that all thin females are mature just because they are thin? Is there no other criterion for a female's womanhood other than the size of her waist? Success in every other area of life would still not deem a female a woman in your eyes if she were fat? Also when a female is losing weight is she still considered a girl because she is still fat, even though she is making mature choices?
I am already quite aware that I am a woman, fat and all, so no womanly training is needed.
In my experience fat girls are immature emotionally. A mature mother would be a good role model. Nourishing kids is a prime role of a mother.
If woman gets her woman training and reforms her girl child behavior then she's IMO a woman.
Here is an example of woman training. Let's say your hubby is a handsome man like me and you are fat and blubbery. A really hot woman vamps him right in front of you and he says VA VA VA VOM and you spy this little hottie 
You are going to feel like #%@&!. That's your woman training. AND when you find out the woman is 66 year old Helen Mirren you feel worse than #%@&!.
Here is an example of man training.
I was working out and this fat guy came in with two fat women. They were checking me out so this fat boy was getting all loud and macho is was pathetic. He was right behind me in the circuit so I cranked all the machine to the max and did my work out. Even though this boy outweighed me by 150+ I was far stronger.
I took a sauna for a while and watched. Then I stepped out with my shirt off all buffed. His wife swooned like I was a male stripper.
That was his man training. He knows that a man like me has a good chance of kicking his butt and stealing his "woman". Maybe now that Double Whopper won't taste so good to him.
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 6 Aug 2011 02:03 am |
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Your example of woman/man training makes no sense, of course that's probably because my immature girl brain just can't comprehend such deep topics. How did the mature mother part come into play?
It's good that you have a high opinion of yourself, confidence is golden. Helen does look smoking hot and if my husband was vavavooming her I would be doing it right along with him. So what would that mean because I didn't feel like #%@&! about that scenario? You still didn't answer the questions JSABD and it appears that you never will. So sad because I'm sure everyone was holding their breath waiting for your ultimate wisdom. Sleep well odd one.
Oh and I wanted to add that you said the fat boy came in with 2 fat "women". I thought you said before that fat females aren't "women" but girls. You crack me up.
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 6 Aug 2011 02:41 am |
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MichelleP wrote: Your example of woman/man training makes no sense, of course that's probably because my immature girl brain just can't comprehend such deep topics. How did the mature mother part come into play?
It's good that you have a high opinion of yourself, confidence is golden. Helen does look smoking hot and if my husband was vavavooming her I would be doing it right along with him. So what would that mean because I didn't feel like #%@&! about that scenario? You still didn't answer the questions JSABD and it appears that you never will. So sad because I'm sure everyone was holding their breath waiting for your ultimate wisdom. Sleep well odd one.
Oh and I wanted to add that you said the fat boy came in with 2 fat "women". I thought you said before that fat females aren't "women" but girls. You crack me up.
I did answer your questions but I will try to clarify.
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You ask the following
Would you say that all thin females are mature just because they are thin?
No but darn few fat females are as mature.
Is there no other criterion for a female's womanhood other than the size of her waist?
Yes but this one is a prerequisite.
Success in every other area of life would still not deem a female a woman in your eyes if she were fat?
Right! If a woman is not womanly then she is not much of a woman. If an man is not manly he is not much of a man.
Also when a female is losing weight is she still considered a girl because she is still fat, even though she is making mature choices?
No. and time will tell whether she gets her woman training. She may become a real woman if she reforms and places womanly things above food.
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 6 Aug 2011 10:40 pm |
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| Before your last reply you did NOT answer the questions. You have answered them now, and again I find myself amused by your boy answers. To each their own.
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 7 Aug 2011 02:17 am |
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MichelleP wrote: Before your last reply you did NOT answer the questions. You have answered them now, and again I find myself amused by your boy answers. To each their own.
I think you find my manly answers and my man body something that make you swoon.
Swooning burns calories. SWOOOOOOON
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 7 Aug 2011 09:03 pm |
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Laughing can burn calories too, which is what your answers really make me do.
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 7 Aug 2011 11:11 pm |
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Giggling often accompanies swooning.
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 7 Aug 2011 11:39 pm |
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| Not in this case!
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 12:13 am |
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Get some smelling salts then for when you faint.
Just think... you can tell all your girlfriends that a guy like me talked to you.
Welcome to Swoon City!
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 01:20 am |
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| Really, LOL, LOL! The way you talk yourself up I thought you were some really buff dude and now I see that you are indeed not. You look a little skinny.
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 03:04 am |
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MichelleP wrote: Really, LOL, LOL! The way you talk yourself up I thought you were some really buff dude and now I see that you are indeed not. You look a little skinny.
I didn't know that men who are 5'8 and 155 are skinny. That's a 23.6 BMI. What is your weight and BMI?
A normal BMI is 18.5 - 24.9
MeMe Roth calls this the normalization of obesity.

See what she means?
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 01:19 pm |
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Based on how much you rave about your own body I would have thought that you'd have a lot more muscle than you do. That's where the "a little skinny" comes into play. Perhaps you are overcompensating for something? Could it be the stereotype that you are short for a boy?
What's my BMI and weight? Trying to compare yourself to me to feel better about yourself? Small minded man. Stupid, but I'll play along. I'm obviously on these forums because I am fat and working towards a better me. I'm 5'8 and weigh 178 pounds, 27.1 BMI which puts me in the overweight category. (not so far off from your own stats)This is a great improvement over the complete blubbery 250 pound 38 BMI obese weight person that I used to be. You can rip me anyway you want but there isn't a #%@&!ed thing you can say to bring me down. I feel better and more sure about myself now then I ever have.
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 01:51 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: Based on how much you rave about your own body I would have thought that you'd have a lot more muscle than you do. That's where the "a little skinny" comes into play. Perhaps you are overcompensating for something? Could it be the stereotype that you are short for a boy?
I'm average height and I am taller laying down. Mike Tyson is 5'11'
What's my BMI and weight? Trying to compare yourself to me to feel better about yourself? Small minded man. Stupid, but I'll play along. I'm obviously on these forums because I am fat and working towards a better me. I'm 5'8 and weigh 178 pounds, 27.1 BMI which puts me in the overweight category. (not so far off from your own stats)This is a great improvement over the complete blubbery 250 pound 38 BMI obese weight person that I used to be. You can rip me anyway you want but there isn't a #%@&!ed thing you can say to bring me down. I feel better and more sure about myself now then I ever have.
Hey there chubby I feel fine. Telling the truth about your condition does not effect me at all. I don't need to tell you you are a chub to make myself feel better. I am merely pointing out how girls like you react to men who look like me. IMO women are far more shallow than men when it comes to physical appearance. My looks a merely a byproduct of not eating like a glutton and a little exercise.
You are the one identifying yourself with your body. I look at myself as a steward of my body.
Your waist is still far bigger than mine and the female waist should be smaller than the male waist. Your waist, if you were in decent shape would be no bigger than 26".
You came to this thread for a reality check and you thought you could spar with the master. I applaud you for the effort but now it is time to lose the rest of your fattitude. Fattitude is like mold, you gotta get rid of it all or it will keep coming back.
Get your ego in check and stop drooling over men like me because you will only end up substituting cheese cake for it.
Get out the measuring tape and when are wearing a size 4 you can think about being with a man like me. BTW a size 0 in a 24" - 25" waist.
If you can't do at least 3 pullups you are too fat and too weak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index#Varying_standards
In Singapore, the BMI cut-off figures were revised in 2005 with an emphasis on health risks instead of weight. Adults whose BMI is between 18.5 and 22.9 have a low risk of developing heart disease and other health problems such as diabetes. Those with a BMI between 23 and 27.4 are at moderate risk while those with a BMI of 27.5 and above are at high risk of heart disease and other types of health problems.
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 03:43 pm |
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I'm average height and I am taller laying down.
Trying to make yourself taller than you are, sounds like over compensating to me?
IMO women are far more shallow than men when it comes to physical appearance.
Yes that's your opinion and I don't agree. Especially in light of your physical appearance waist size requirements for women, which I'll touch on next.
Your waist, if you were in decent shape would be no bigger than 26".
Wow, really? Now those are some high standards. Using my height of 5'8" and my own ideal weight of 130 pounds, if I had a 26" waist I would have 15.75% body fat which is exceptionally lean. (Out of the categories, overfat, moderate, lean, very lean and exceptionally lean) http://www.freedieting.com/tools/body_fat_calculator.htm
And that would according to you only put me in DECENT shape.
I also have to mention that my daughter at 5'5" weighing 115 pounds has a 28" waist with a 19.1 BMI, the low side of the normal BMI, and wears a size 2's and 4's. She looks amazing and would never be considered fat or chubby by any standards, except apparently by yours.
You came to this thread for a reality check and you thought you could spar with the master. I applaud you for the effort but now it is time to lose the rest of your fattitude.
I didn't come to this thread for a reality check though in light of all your comments on this thread and others it's apparent to I'm sure most all of us that you are the one in need of a reality check.
Get your ego in check and stop drooling over men like me because you will only end up substituting cheese cake for it.
Still thinking so highly of yourself that I must be drooling over you, which is just not the case.There is a such thing as being too confident. Your attitude hurts any looks you think you have SO much. And I don't even like cheesecake,it's much too sweet!
BTW a size 0 in a 24" - 25" waist.
A size 0? are you kidding me, I would never want to be a size zero, I would look like a complete anorexic. Also a waist measurement varies quite a bit depending on what brand of clothing you buy.
In Singapore, the BMI cut-off figures were revised in 2005 with an emphasis on health risks instead of weight. Adults whose BMI is between 18.5 and 22.9 have a low risk of developing heart disease and other health problems such as diabetes. Those with a BMI between 23 and 27.4 are at moderate risk while those with a BMI of 27.5 and above are at high risk of heart disease and other types of health problems.
So why are you pointing this out? According to this, your BMI of 23.6 is in the same category as my chubby BMI of 27.1, so we both have the same moderate risk of heart disease and diabetes. And since you are never content that can increase your potential health problems even more.
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 04:34 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: I'm average height and I am taller laying down.
Trying to make yourself taller than you are, sounds like over compensating to me?
I am fine with my height and weight and I do nothing to look taller. You didn't get the joke I was making.
IMO women are far more shallow than men when it comes to physical appearance.
Yes that's your opinion and I don't agree. Especially in light of your physical appearance waist size requirements for women, which I'll touch on next.
I don't think that men are avoiding you because you are fat. I know that college guys do this game called hoggin where they bet on who can land the fattest fat girl. Personality is a big part of it and fattitude is a bigger turn off than fat.
Fat girls are the most shallow. If they were open and accepting the would not shun fat guys. Look at the pictures at a NAAFA convention. You see a sea of fat blubbery fat girls and a bunch of slender men who have a fat fetish and darn few fat guys. Those fat girls pick men that look like me every time and they don't care about personality. They just want to play hide the salami.
Your waist, if you were in decent shape would be no bigger than 26".
Wow, really? Now those are some high standards. Using my height of 5'8" and my own ideal weight of 130 pounds, if I had a 26" waist I would have 15.75% body fat which is exceptionally lean. (Out of the categories, overfat, moderate, lean, very lean and exceptionally lean) http://www.freedieting.com/tools/body_fat_calculator.htm
You can have a 10% body fat composition and still me healthy. If you had washboard abs you could still have more than enough body fat to be healthy and you could probably have a 24" waist even at 5'8"
BTW, what is your waist? I would guess 36".
And that would according to you only put me in DECENT shape.
I also have to mention that my daughter at 5'5" weighing 115 pounds has a 28" waist with a 19.1 BMI, the low side of the normal BMI, and wears a size 2's and 4's. She looks amazing and would never be considered fat or chubby by any standards, except apparently by yours.
Your daughter sounds "skinny/fat" and that is not surprising considering the food you probably fed her. Feed that girl properly and no what foods made you fat should never have been fed to your daughter so SHAME ON YOU!
Are you divorced? I would have divorced you.
You came to this thread for a reality check and you thought you could spar with the master. I applaud you for the effort but now it is time to lose the rest of your fattitude.
I didn't come to this thread for a reality check though in light of all your comments on this thread and others it's apparent to I'm sure most all of us that you are the one in need of a reality check.
Let's recap. You are fat and I am not. You have been unwilling to not be fat for a very long time. You have acted responsibly for a few months and lost some weight and you are not going to hear any atta girls from me simply for finally acting responsibly as a parent and an adult.
Time will tell whether you lose the rest of your fattitude. They day you come back here and thank me for answering your not so veiled cry for help is the day your will be fattitude free.
Get your ego in check and stop drooling over men like me because you will only end up substituting cheese cake for it.
Still thinking so highly of yourself that I must be drooling over you, which is just not the case.There is a such thing as being too confident. Your attitude hurts any looks you think you have SO much. And I don't even like cheesecake,it's much too sweet!
I think very highly of myself and that is why I treat my body in a responsible manner. With more and more fat guys out there, men like me get treated like pieces of meat these days and the ones who are the most disrespectful to men like be are desperate, horny fat girls. I don't find it flattering at all. Not so long ago a fat girl who knows I'm married and is a friend of my wife came onto me. She was drunk and had me pinned up against a car. I told my wife and she laughed imagining Keri doing that. Keri is a real beast. Then I asked her what if Keri was hot and my wife got the point. I felt betrayed and so did my wife after she thought about it.
BTW a size 0 in a 24" - 25" waist.
A size 0? are you kidding me, I would never want to be a size zero, I would look like a complete anorexic. Also a waist measurement varies quite a bit depending on what brand of clothing you buy.
You need to stop your veiled resentment towards slender women. They are not out to steal the men of fat girls even though they could.
In Singapore, the BMI cut-off figures were revised in 2005 with an emphasis on health risks instead of weight. Adults whose BMI is between 18.5 and 22.9 have a low risk of developing heart disease and other health problems such as diabetes. Those with a BMI between 23 and 27.4 are at moderate risk while those with a BMI of 27.5 and above are at high risk of heart disease and other types of health problems.
So why are you pointing this out? According to this, your BMI of 23.6 is in the same category as my chubby BMI of 27.1, so we both have the same moderate risk of heart disease and diabetes. And since you are never content that can increase your potential health problems even more.
According to you I'm skinny. BMI is only part of the picture. My risk of heart disease in very very low but because you have abused your body you are at high risk. I have a lot of lean muscle mass. I'm very strong and very fit. You have a lot of body fat. If I were a blubbery 23.6 I would have a higher risk for health problems. I could fight as a middleweight or junior middleweight. At one point you were bigger than the average NFL football player.
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 04:43 pm |
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Having been educated on this thread,
I can't wait until I can change my name to Bamawomanly !!! 
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 05:27 pm |
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Bamagirly wrote: Having been educated on this thread,
I can't wait until I can change my name to Bamawomanly !!! 
I have been reading your threads and I think you are on your way. You will make a splendid womanly woman.
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 06:13 pm |
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| LOl I'm keeping my name the way it is. I feel younger now than I did 5 years ago. Heaven knows what it'll be like at goal weight.
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 06:43 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: LOl I'm keeping my name the way it is. I feel younger now than I did 5 years ago. Heaven knows what it'll be like at goal weight.
You will be marvelous!
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 07:02 pm |
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| You know how you've said fat girls tend to be#%@&!tish? I hid in the weight for the longest time because I was afraid of my own sexuality. Definitely explains why the motivation was stronger than it has ever been after marriage vs before.
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 07:26 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: You know how you've said fat girls tend to be#%@&!tish? I hid in the weight for the longest time because I was afraid of my own sexuality. Definitely explains why the motivation was stronger than it has ever been after marriage vs before.
The data suggest that they are. #%@&!ish does not mean that they have higher libido than normal women. They are more promiscuous, more like to get an STD and more likely to get knocked up. That behavior goes hand in hand with their hedonism and gluttony. Fat males have less sex because they get rejected. Fat girls get more rejections than normal women but they get about as much because they are far more aggressive.
I am in a unique position to comment on this because all my formal and informal observations of people. I have never had a normal sized woman throw herself at me or stalk me. They seem to be better at picking up on whether I am interested or not. Fat girls miss the signals. If you smile at one or make eye contact they think you are interested in the sexually.
Even if I weren't married I would still look good but being married I try a little harder now. Looking good and being healthy is the greatest gift I can give to my wife and it is a easy gift to give and it is more than a gift, it is my duty as her husband. It is one of the ways in which I honor her. For me getting fat by indulging in food lust would be the same as going next door and screwing the neighbor lady.
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 08:03 pm |
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| I think you're giving away a bit of bias there. If you're basing your research on the FCB's (Fat Cocky B***es) of course you'll see them as#%@&!tish. I've met very few like that - most know how bad they look and keep to themselves. I think it was Dr Drew that said "addicts want to be left alone with their addictions".
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 08:56 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: I think you're giving away a bit of bias there. If you're basing your research on the FCB's (Fat Cocky B***es) of course you'll see them as#%@&!tish. I've met very few like that - most know how bad they look and keep to themselves. I think it was Dr Drew that said "addicts want to be left alone with their addictions".
I can provide links to studies that completely show that fat girls are#%@&!s.
http://biggerfatterblog.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/more-proof-fat-girls-are-sluts/
Sex is an ego thing. Women like to conquer men and vice versa. Women IMO are far more competitive when it comes to attracting a mate. The#%@&!tier a woman acts the more likely she is to attract a man. Since fat girls are less attractive they pull out all the stops.
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 09:08 pm |
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Men don't avoid me, which should be baffling to you since I am fat and you can't imagine how any guy would like a woman like me. I actually wish guys wouldn't check me out, or flirt as often because it really does annoy my husband. Who is 6'2 and weighs 185, just right as far as I see it. So no I am not a divorcee and I wouldn't have married an immature boy like you in the first place so you would not have had a chance to divorce me. I don't think you could handle a strong woman like me.
I'm sure I could have a 24" waist but that's too skinny on me. I would like a flat stomach but I have no desire for washboard abs, I like being softer than a man. And you know you didn't just guess my waist size.
19.1 BMI on my daughter and you still add the word fat. Really funny.
Wasn't looking for any atta girls from you. And now I will lose my supposed fattitude if and only if I come back here later and thank you. Again, really funny. I do however thank you for amusing me.
You're married? That really suprises me and makes me feel a little sorry for your wife. Does she have a 24" waist? If her waist were to grow at what size would it have to get to for you to dump her?
I do not have resentment towards slender women. Just because I don't want to be a size zero doesn't mean that I have resentment towards women who are. If they are happy and healthy at that size then I'm happy for them. I love women and applaud them all the time. (and no I'm not a lesbian) I am not a negative bitch like a lot of women, but I see it all the time and find it sickening.
And I said that you were a little skinny in light of how buff you make yourself out to be.
My god you are like an exhausting toddler.
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 09:12 pm |
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| I agree Tankgirl, the fat girls I know are not#%@&!ty by any means.
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Posted: 8 Aug 2011 11:20 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: Men don't avoid me, which should be baffling to you since I am fat and you can't imagine how any guy would like a woman like me. I actually wish guys wouldn't check me out, or flirt as often because it really does annoy my husband. Who is 6'2 and weighs 185, just right as far as I see it. So no I am not a divorcee and I wouldn't have married an immature boy like you in the first place so you would not have had a chance to divorce me. I don't think you could handle a strong woman like me.
Hubby must be a wimp if he tolerates having a fat wife who disrespects him and loves food more than him. That's right, if you are fat let's hear you explain how you don't love him enough to eat responsibly. Think about it. You went up one size and you refused to slow down on the eating and then you went up another and did nothing but eat even more. You refused to apply the brakes and now all you can do is toss lame insults at me, a man who loves his spouse more than food and proves it by not being fat and blubbery.
It sounds like just as you are behind in your woman training he's behind in his man training.
You may need a trip to My Fat Spouse to see just how wrong it is to disrespect your man by choosing food over him. http://matildatuesday.blogspot.com/p/forum_10.html
I'm sure I could have a 24" waist but that's too skinny on me. I would like a flat stomach but I have no desire for washboard abs, I like being softer than a man. And you know you didn't just guess my waist size.
You would like a flat stomach but you settled for a fat stomach and you make hubby have to deal with it. How disrespectful is that?
19.1 BMI on my daughter and you still add the word fat. Really funny.
Obviously you don't know the difference between lean and fat.
Wasn't looking for any atta girls from you. And now I will lose my supposed fattitude if and only if I come back here later and thank you. Again, really funny. I do however thank you for amusing me.
I think it is funny that you are trying to justify your obesity by launching lame quips at me. Believe me you have fattitude. Try replacing it with some humility.
You're married? That really suprises me and makes me feel a little sorry for your wife. Does she have a 24" waist? If her waist were to grow at what size would it have to get to for you to dump her?
The only way her waist can legitimately grow is when she is pregnant. She wears a size 2 slacks and they fit her lose in the waist.
Your question is academic. I would not marry a woman capable of loving food more than her family. I'd never be with anyone that selfish or shallow.
I do not have resentment towards slender women. Just because I don't want to be a size zero doesn't mean that I have resentment towards women who are. If they are happy and healthy at that size then I'm happy for them. I love women and applaud them all the time. (and no I'm not a lesbian) I am not a negative bitch like a lot of women, but I see it all the time and find it sickening.
If you are like most fat girls and a sexy little hottie shook her butt in your hubby's direction and stole him you'd resent slender women but don't worry about that happening because the kind of woman who could steal your husband usually want a man with high standards. It kinda looks like your hubby has settled for someone who places food over him. He won't admit it unless you give him truth serum.
And I said that you were a little skinny in light of how buff you make yourself out to be.
In reality I am far from "skinny" and I a buff.
My god you are like an exhausting toddler.
Exhausting? My wife calls it energetic. She like the fact that I have stamina and endurance. 
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 9 Aug 2011 01:13 am |
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I didn't settle for a fat stomach. If I had settled I would have happily stayed at 250 pounds and never did anything about it, which I have and am doing something about.
Obviously you don't know that a 5'5" female weighing 115 pounds is NOT fat.
I'm not trying to justify my being fat at all. If I were I'd be giving you lame excuses as to why I was/am fat, which I am not doing. The quips are right back at you in response to your lame quips.
Your wife is a size 2, good for her, as long as she is healthy and is happy with this size please give her my compliments. Though I question her taste in boys and still feel sorry for her. Do you patrol her eating? Do you complain to her if you think she has eaten too much that week and not exercised enough? So my question about that was what size would your wife's waist have to grow to in order for you to dump her? Since you are married I would assume you love her, so would it be that easy to just toss her out if she got overweight? She might be curious to know what the cut off is.
Stamina and endurance, oh please, now you want to tell me about your sexual prowess. Now that I think of it, maybe it isn't the shorter stature that you try to overcompensate for, maybe it's the size of your eh feet. God I crack myself up.
This doesn't have anything to do with fatitude and you can say it does a million times over. This is about me not being intimidated by the words of a mere boy and giving it right back to you. And I think you like it, feed off of it even.
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 9 Aug 2011 02:05 am |
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I was just reading through several other Tough Love topics and wow it's the same #%@&! in all of them,amazing. I read some really good responses from suenos and they made a lot of sense. I liked this line in particular: "This thread has been entertaining in a twisted way, but I?óÔé¼Ôäóm over it. It's like banging my head against a brick wall. Fruitless and stupid." Thanks suenos!!
And with that being said I've decided that even though it's been fun rattling the tools feathers a bit, and there is a part of me that would love to just keep reaming his probably big fat butt, I will gracefully take the high road and quit contributing to this kind of insanity. I'm over it. Sorry to stop the train wreck to those who have been enjoying it. I just don't have the time to keep stooping to the level of this dude with the attitude. We all know he's a tool, that pretty much sums it up. Thanks for the amusement J!
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 9 Aug 2011 02:07 am |
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MichelleP wrote: I didn't settle for a fat stomach. If I had settled I would have happily stayed at 250 pounds and never did anything about it, which I have and am doing something about.
You settled for it for a long time because food trumped looking good. When you have done something about it then you can talk.
Obviously you don't know that a 5'5" female weighing 115 pounds is NOT fat.
Obviously you don't know the difference between flabby and toned
I'm not trying to justify my being fat at all. If I were I'd be giving you lame excuses as to why I was/am fat, which I am not doing. The quips are right back at you in response to your lame quips.
You are justifying and rationalizing!
Your wife is a size 2, good for her, as long as she is healthy and is happy with this size please give her my compliments. Though I question her taste in boys and still feel sorry for her. Do you patrol her eating? Do you complain to her if you think she has eaten too much that week and not exercised enough? So my question about that was what size would your wife's waist have to grow to in order for you to dump her? Since you are married I would assume you love her, so would it be that easy to just toss her out if she got overweight? She might be curious to know what the cut off is.
My wife is very healthy. She does not want or need compliments simply for behaving loving and responsibly the way a good wife and mother should.
Like me, my wife is inner directed. She is not out of control and if she were I never would have married her.
My wife has a mind of her own. I would not dump my wife for getting fat. I would dump her for not loving me and our kids enough. If she got fat then it clearly shows that her lust for food is greater than her love for her family.
It would not be easy to toss her out if she chose food over her family but my kids come first and my kids will not be parented by a fat woman.
Stamina and endurance, oh please, now you want to tell me about your sexual prowess. Now that I think of it, maybe it isn't the shorter stature that you try to overcompensate for, maybe it's the size of your eh feet. God I crack myself up.
It's getting really schoolyard when the best you can do is make a pecker joke. Fit guys tend to have plenty of sausage and they know know how to deliver it.
This doesn't have anything to do with fatitude and you can say it does a million times over. This is about me not being intimidated by the words of a mere boy and giving it right back to you. And I think you like it, feed off of it even.
You didn't give much back and not only are you intimidated by what I said you are intimidated by men like me and what we stand for. You see the confidence, the power, and the slender hot wife or girlfriend and it drives you nuts. The very thing you want is something we and our women never give give a second thought to because we don;t see it as anything special. My wife and I look good for each other simply out of a sense of respect. Getting fat is a form of cheating. 
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 9 Aug 2011 02:11 am |
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I was just reading through several other Tough Love topics and wow it's the same #%@&! in all of them,amazing. I read some really good responses from suenos and they made a lot of sense. I liked this line in particular: "This thread has been entertaining in a twisted way, but I?óÔé¼Ôäóm over it. It's like banging my head against a brick wall. Fruitless and stupid." Thanks suenos!!
And with that being said I've decided that even though it's been fun rattling the tools feathers a bit, and there is a part of me that would love to just keep reaming his probably big fat butt, I will gracefully take the high road and quit contributing to this kind of insanity. I'm over it. Sorry to stop the train wreck to those who have been enjoying it. I just don't have the time to keep stooping to the level of this dude with the attitude. We all know he's a tool, that pretty much sums it up. Thanks for the amusement J!
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 9 Aug 2011 02:13 am |
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ONE MORE THING MICHELLEP....
You have been here since 2009 and you are STILL fat. Maybe you should stop trying to match wits with me and get serious about NOT BEING FAT!
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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 12 Aug 2011 11:15 pm |
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POSITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT LOSING WEIGHT, EXERCISE, AND NUTRITIONAL EATING FROM PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CARE CAN BE FOUND IN THE OTHER CATEGORIES ON THESE FORUMS. THIS "TOUGH LOVE" CATEGORY IS NOT SUPPORTED BY MOST OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS FORUM.
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 13 Aug 2011 12:16 am |
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MichelleP wrote: POSITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT LOSING WEIGHT, EXERCISE, AND NUTRITIONAL EATING FROM PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CARE CAN BE FOUND IN THE OTHER CATEGORIES ON THESE FORUMS. THIS "TOUGH LOVE" CATEGORY IS NOT SUPPORTED BY MOST OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS FORUM.
...and most members on this forum or any other forum will not lose weight. Most of the ones who have the courage to come to the TOUGH LOVE FORUM will lose weight and amend their lives.

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MichelleP Distinguished Member

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Posted: 13 Aug 2011 03:35 am |
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" Most of the ones who have the courage to come to the TOUGH LOVE FORUM will lose weight and amend their lives"
Remember your success rate? Seems the way you're going about this has turned most people away.
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 13 Aug 2011 04:11 am |
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MichelleP wrote: " Most of the ones who have the courage to come to the TOUGH LOVE FORUM will lose weight and amend their lives"
Remember your success rate? Seems the way you're going about this has turned most people away.
I am glad you are trying to stink the place up. Lurkers see it. It's a wonderful teaching moment. The ones with fattitude will see themselves in you.
Read the success forum here and count the numbers and look at the dates. There are two success stories here already and if you lose the fattitude you will be the third.
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Mattie New Member

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Posted: 9 Nov 2011 02:43 am |
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shave your armpits please.
And Michelle this guy has some serious insecurities about himself and I am sure he has some eating disorders. I think you need to get help to heal you because you do not sound "confident" to me you sound like a bully and bullies always have insecurities and for you since you joined this website I say u grew up as a fat boy, and you had so much trouble being bullied, and now you have worked so hard to get the body that you are tying so desperately to show off, and thinking and expressing your self like a twelve year old. people come from different societies, social backgrounds, and as a "man" you should know that each society has its own way of perception of what is right and wrong including the women's body size. Wake up and do something with your state of mind, because seriously you need HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 9 Nov 2011 05:37 am |
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Just an FYI since I seem to be the last one left in this forum:
Michelle's gone on to other parts of the forum and I think JS is gone for a while. He'll be back no doubt.
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RyanPhillips New Member

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Posted: 9 Nov 2011 09:04 pm |
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MichelleP wrote:
Really, LOL, LOL!?é?áThe way you talk yourself up I thought you were some really buff dude and now I see that you are indeed not.?é?á You look a little skinny.
LOL!!!!!!!
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RyanPhillips New Member

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Posted: 9 Nov 2011 09:06 pm |
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MichelleP wrote:
Laughing can burn calories too, which is what your answers really make me do.
LOL too :)
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JSABD Distinguished Member

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Posted: 11 Nov 2011 11:47 pm |
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Mattie wrote: shave your armpits please.
And Michelle this guy has some serious insecurities about himself and I am sure he has some eating disorders. I think you need to get help to heal you because you do not sound "confident" to me you sound like a bully and bullies always have insecurities and for you since you joined this website I say u grew up as a fat boy, and you had so much trouble being bullied, and now you have worked so hard to get the body that you are tying so desperately to show off, and thinking and expressing your self like a twelve year old. people come from different societies, social backgrounds, and as a "man" you should know that each society has its own way of perception of what is right and wrong including the women's body size. Wake up and do something with your state of mind, because seriously you need HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Real men don't shave their body hair sweet boy.
Nobody had the balls to bully me or my friends. Back then before all the politically correct whining punks got beaten down.
There is one society and that is human society and those of you who don't act like humans are going to hear it from people like me.
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maymay New Member

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Posted: 15 Dec 2011 06:48 pm |
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| Ouch...truth hurts I guess lol I don't consider myself immature though. I was really skinny and toned, played sports all the time. I gained my weight from eating fast food due to limited time for cooking and eating healthy. I worked full time, went to school full time, took care of my child and my ole man, took care of the house, and still squeezed in time for friends. Fast food was just quick and easy. But I am working part time now and almost finished with school, so I have extra time to work out. As for big girls being "#%@&!y"...I see that quite often, esp. with girls wearing two peice bathing suits. I am far from being like that. I use to wear bikinis and lingerie, but not anymore. If I can't stand looking at my body now, I am not going to put that off on anyone else to look at lol Hopefully I can get back down to being toned so I feel more comfortable with tight clothes versus the baggy ones.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2011 12:59 am |
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maymay wrote: Ouch...truth hurts I guess lol I don't consider myself immature though. I was really skinny and toned, played sports all the time. I gained my weight from eating fast food due to limited time for cooking and eating healthy. I worked full time, went to school full time, took care of my child and my ole man, took care of the house, and still squeezed in time for friends. Fast food was just quick and easy. But I am working part time now and almost finished with school, so I have extra time to work out. As for big girls being "#%@&!y"...I see that quite often, esp. with girls wearing two peice bathing suits. I am far from being like that. I use to wear bikinis and lingerie, but not anymore. If I can't stand looking at my body now, I am not going to put that off on anyone else to look at lol Hopefully I can get back down to being toned so I feel more comfortable with tight clothes versus the baggy ones.
Eat healthy food only!
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