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JSABD
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Posted: 31 Jul 2011 11:19 pm |
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The following is the best diet advice on earth. The only way it won't work is if you don't follow it.
1. Go to this site and calculate your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) YOU CAN DO THIS! http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/calories.shtml
2. Create 6 meals for the day that are high in fibrous nutrient dense food that total .5 grams per pound of body weight and totals your BMR.
3. Recalculate your BMR once a month and repeat step 2.
4, When you reach you ideal weight calculate the number of calories it requires to maintain that weight and eat at that level every day.
If you do this you WILL achieve a healthy weight and you WILL maintain it.
Now I would like to hear all the reasons for why you "can't" do this.
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TheAntiTroll
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Posted: 31 Jul 2011 11:54 pm |
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| You forgot to incorporate the exercise factor: a sedentary individual who is bedridden who eats at his BMR will burn as much calories as his BMR therefore losing no weight, or minimal. Sedentary Daily caloric needsis VEry close to Basal Metabolic Rate calories.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 12:18 am |
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1. Because I'm too busy to eat 6 times a day.
2. Because eating well below my bmr gives me some breathing space at the end of the the day if I'm still hungry. As much as I'd like to think asparagus and other veg has negative calories, I still count them.
3.Let's face it- I'm impatient. I've spent 10+ years over 200- if one month of 1200 (net after exercise) calories gets me below for the first time since high school, it's 100% worth it. I'd like to see if it's sustainable to stay at this level until November,then go up to my BMR for the holidays.Last edited on 1 Aug 2011 12:18 am by Tankgirl
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JSABD
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 02:08 am |
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TheAntiTroll wrote: You forgot to incorporate the exercise factor: a sedentary individual who is bedridden who eats at his BMR will burn as much calories as his BMR therefore losing no weight, or minimal. Sedentary Daily caloric needsis VEry close to Basal Metabolic Rate calories.
You are beyond clueless. 
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JSABD
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 02:42 am |
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Tankgirl wrote: 1. Because I'm too busy to eat 6 times a day.
2. Because eating well below my bmr gives me some breathing space at the end of the the day if I'm still hungry. As much as I'd like to think asparagus and other veg has negative calories, I still count them.
3.Let's face it- I'm impatient. I've spent 10+ years over 200- if one month of 1200 (net after exercise) calories gets me below for the first time since high school, it's 100% worth it. I'd like to see if it's sustainable to stay at this level until November,then go up to my BMR for the holidays.
Never go below your BMR and never lose more than 1 pound per week per 100 pounds of body weight.
Nobody is to busy toe eat 6 times a day.
Rapid weight loss is unhealthy.
6 times a day is about every 2.5 hours. A bag on peanuts is 155 calories + 70 cals in a large Navel Orange + cup of vegetable soup 120 calories, large glass unsweetened iced tea 0 calories = 345
Would you be hungry after the above meal in 2.5 hours?
Here are numbers for a moderately active 200 pound woman.
- Resting (basal) metabolic rate: 1939 calories per day
- Typical daily activities: 969 calories per day
- Total calories burned: 2909 per day
This will create about a 6300 caloric deficit for the week or a weight loss of 1.8 pounds.
You will want to add some exercise. Do some strength training 3 times a week and walk briskly for 20 minutes 4 times a week.
Excuses are not reasons.
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 02:59 am |
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I probably wouldn't be hungry, unless I'd been riding hard.
Exercise is covered: at least 30 min bicycle commuting to/from work - (that's if I don't need to run errands or take the long way home) , at least 6 days a week. Will add the strength training though, since there's a gym at work. I need to be doing that anyway,or otherwise I'll start catching air with these "bat wings"! Last edited on 1 Aug 2011 03:02 am by Tankgirl
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JSABD
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 03:09 am |
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If you lose more than 2 pounds a week eat a little bit more. An hour of brisk walking can burn over 500 calories X 7 days = 1 pound of weight loss.
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 12:09 pm |
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| im not clueless, you can easily eat less than your BMR and not lose any lean body mass in a ketogenic system.
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JSABD
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 02:01 pm |
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TheAntiTroll wrote: im not clueless, you can easily eat less than your BMR and not lose any lean body mass in a ketogenic system.
You are right. You are not clueless. You are beyond clueless.
Explain what ketogenic is. and then explain what a ketogenic system is and then explain using facts, science and links why someone can eat below their BMR and defy the the laws of physics and not lose weight.
Then eat a pie fattty.
For the rest of you ketogenic refers to the cells using ketones for energy instead of glucose. Ketones are not the preferred fuel for the cells and brain cells only use glucose.
The body can go into ketosis for short period of time and be OK but prolonged ketosis like that that happens on the Fatkins DIEt is unsafe an could even be deadly for some people.
Ketosis cannot change the laws of physics and ketone calories and a glucose calorie is still a calorie. A person in ketosis is burning fat and muscle for fuel and they will lose weight more rapidly than a person who is not staring his cells of glucose by depleting his live of glycogen. Because prolonged ketosis destroys muscle and because muscle is heavier than fat it the weight loss is faster and because water weighs more than fat and because low carb depletes the liver of glycogen the weight loss is initially faster.
If a person remains in ketosis for a long time they will lose weight as long as their is a caloric deficit. Being in a ketogenic state cannot and will not circumvent the laws of physics as Atkins and the other carb phobics would like you to believe.
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Nir
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 05:21 pm |
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1) Whatever the diet, we will almost always lose some combination of fat and lean tissue. The hope is that we lose mostly fat.
2) a Ketogenic diet is a red herring because a diet can be quite low in carbohydrates and yet not quite ketogenic.
For the treatment of epilepsy, meals are constructed so that the ketogenic ratio is 1.5 or higher:
( more info http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/ketosis-and-the-ketogenic-ratio-qa.html )
3) the most lean tissue would be lost during the first few days of a ketogenic diet whilst your body is adapting to lypolisis. Initially the brain still runs on glucose and if not enough is present then protein will be converted to glucose (1g protein yields 0.58g glucose)
4) a very large deficit could lead to lean tissue loss. The maximum amount of metabolizeable fat is approx 31 calories per pound of fat. Thus a person with many pounds of fat could safely create a very large deficit and this could be the case whilst consuming less than their unadjusted BMR. However someone closer to normal weight will be ill-advised to do this!
5) Ketosis is unlikely to be maintained on more than 50g carbs and this allocation does not translate to an adequate amount of health-giving plant matter such as vegetables, beans, fruit, nuts and seeds. A person following this diet could take multi-vitamin and fibre supplements but these do not adequately replace nutrition from food!
6) a diet based on refined flour (or indeed grains in general) and refined caloric sweeteners and processed foods is not a healthy one, but a ketogenic diet also forbids an adequate amount of healthy plant matter - throwing the baby with the bathwater.
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JSABD
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 08:06 pm |
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Dangers of a Low Carb Diet
Low carb (carbohydrate), high protein diets are the latest dieting craze. However, before you jump on the band wagon, you may want to consider a few things:
1. Low carb (ketogenic) diets deplete the healthy glycogen (the storage form of glucose) stores in your muscles and liver. When you deplete glycogen stores, you also dehydrate, often causing the scale to drop significantly in the first week or two of the diet. This is usually interpreted as fat loss when it's actually mostly from dehydration and muscle loss. By the way, this is one of the reasons that low carb diets are so popular at the moment - there is a quick initial, but deceptive drop in scale weight.
Glycogenesis (formation of glycogen) occurs in the liver and muscles when adequate quantities of carbohydrates are consumed - very little of this happens on a low carb diet. Glycogenolysis (breakdown of glycogen) occurs when glycogen is broken down to form glucose for use as fuel.
2. Depletion of muscle glycogen causes you to fatigue easily, and makes exercise and movement uncomfortable. Research indicates that muscle fatigue increases in almost direct proportion to the rate of depletion of muscle glycogen. Bottom line is that you don't feel energetic and you exercise and move less (often without realizing it) which is not good for caloric expenditure and basal metabolic rate (metabolism).
3. Depletion of muscle glycogen leads to muscle atrophy (loss of muscle). This happens because muscle glycogen (broken down to glucose) is the fuel of choice for the muscle during movement. There is always a fuel mix, but without muscle glycogen, the muscle fibers that contract, even at rest to maintain muscle tone, contract less when glycogen is not immediately available in the muscle. Depletion of muscle glycogen also causes you to exercise and move less than normal which leads to muscle loss and the inability to maintain adequate muscle tone.
Also, in the absence of adequate carbohydrate for fuel, the body initially uses protein (muscle) and fat. the initial phase of muscle depletion is rapid, caused by the use of easily accessed muscle protein for direct metabolism or for conversion to glucose (gluconeogenesis) for fuel. Eating excess protein does not prevent this because there is a caloric deficit.
When insulin levels are chronically too low as they may be in very low carb diets, catabolism (breakdown) of muscle protein increases, and protein synthesis stops.
4. Loss of muscle causes a decrease in your basal metabolic rate (metabolism). Metabolism happens in the muscle. Less muscle and muscle tone means a slower metabolism which means fewer calories burned 24 hours-a-day.
5. Your muscles and skin lack tone and are saggy. Saggy muscles don't look good, cause saggy skin, and cause you to lose a healthy, vibrant look (even if you've also lost fat).
6. Some proponents of low carb diets recommend avoiding carbohydrates such as bread, pasta, potatoes, carrots, etc. because of they are high on the glycemic index - causing a sharp rise in insulin. Certain carbohydrates have always been, and will always be the bad guys: candy, cookies, baked goods with added sugar, sugared drinks, processed / refined white breads, pastas, and rice, and any foods with added sugar. These are not good for health or weight loss. However, carbohydrates such as fruits, vegetables, legumes, whole grain breads and pastas, and brown rice are good for health and weight loss. Just like with proteins and fats, these carbohydrates should be eaten in moderation. Large volumes of any proteins, fats or carbohydrates are not conducive to weight loss and health.
The effect of high glycemic foods is often exaggerated. It's does matter, but to a smaller degree than is often portrayed. Also, the total glycemic effect of foods is influenced by the quantity of that food that you eat at a sitting. Smaller meals have a lower overall glycemic effect. Also, we usually eat several types of food at the same time, thereby reducing the average glycemic index of the meal, if higher glycemic foods are eaten. Also, glycemic index values can be misleading because they are based on a standard 50 grams of carbohydrate consumed. It wouldn't take much candy bar to get that, but it would take four cups of carrots. Do you usually eat four cups of carrots at a meal?
Regular exercisers and active people also are less effected by higher glycemic foods because much of the carbohydrate comsumed is immediately used to replenish glycogen stores in the liver and muscle.
By the way, if you're interested in lowering insulin levels, there is a great way to do that - exercise and activity.
7. Much of the weight loss on a low carb, high protein diet, especially in the first few weeks, is actually because of dehydration and muscle loss.
8. The percentage of people that re-gain the weight they've lost with most methods of weight loss is high, but it's even higher with low carb, high protein diets. This is primarily due to three factors:
A. You have lost muscle. With that comes a slower metabolism which means fewer calories are burned 24 hours-a-day. A loss of muscle during the process of losing weight is almost a guarantee for re-gaining the lost weight, and more.
B. You re-gain the healthy fluid lost because of glycogen depletion.
C. It's difficult to maintain that type of diet long-term.
D. You have not made a change to a long-term healthy lifestyle.
9. Eating too much fat is just not healthy. I know you've heard of people whose blood levels of cholesterol and triglycerides have decreased while on a low carb, high protein diet. This often happens with weight loss, but it doesn't continue when you're on a diet high in fat. There are literally reams of research over decades that clearly indicates that an increase in consumption of animal products and/or saturated fat leads to increased incidence of heart disease, strokes, gall stones, kidney stones, arthritic symptoms, certain cancers, etc. For example, in comparing countries with varying levels of meat consumption, there is a direct relationship between the volume of meat consumption in a country and the incidence of digestive cancers (stomach, intestines, rectal, etc.).
Fat is certainly necessary, and desirable in your diet, but they should be mostly healthy fats and in moderation. Manufactured / synthetic "low fat" foods with lots of added sugar are not the answer. Neither are manufactured / synthetic "low carb" foods with artificial sweeteners or added fat. By the way, use of artificial sweeteners has never been shown to aid in weight loss and they may pose health problems. According to Dr. Keith-Thomas Ayoob of Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, "In my experience, unless you're willing to throw out decades of research, you cannot ignore that diets chronically high in saturated fats are linked to heart disease," Dr. Ayoob is also a spokesman for the American Dietetic Association and says that low carb, high protein diets are an attempt at a quick fix and not a long-term lifestyle change.
10. As someone recently told me, "it must work - people are losing weight". People that are truly losing fat on low carb, high protein diets, are doing so because they are eating fewer calories - that's the bottom line. There is no magic - the same can be done on a healthy diet.
11. Low carb diets are lacking in fiber. Every plant-based food has some fiber. All animal products have no fiber. A lack of fiber increases your risk for cancers of the digestive track (because transit time is lengthened) and cardiovascular disease (because of fibers effect on fat and cholesterol). It also puts you at a higher risk for constipation and other bowel disorders.
12. Low carb diets lack sufficient quantities of the the many nutrients / phytonutrients / antioxidants found in fruits, vegetables, legumes, and whole grains, necessary for health and aiding in prevention of cancer and heart disease. In fact, you need these nutrients even more so when you're consuming too much fat as is often the case on a low carb high protein diet.
13. Amercans already consume more than twice the amount of protein needed. Add to that a high protein diet and you have far too much protein consumption. By the way, most people don't realize that all fruits, all vegetables, all whole grains, and all legumes also contain protein. Animal products contain larger quantities of protein, but that may not be a good thing. Excess dietary protein puts you at a higher risk for many health problems: gout (painful joints from high purine foods which are usually high protein foods), kidney disease, kidney stones, osteoporosis (excess dietary protein causes leeching of calcium from the bones). By the way, countries with lower, healthier intakes of protein also have a decreased incidence of osteoporosis.
14. Low carb, high protein diets cause an unhealthy physiological state called ketosis, a type of metabolic acidosis. You may have heard the phrase, "fat burns in the flame of carbohydrate". Excess acetyl CoA cannot enter the Krebs Cycle (you remember the old Krebs Cycle) due to insufficient OAA. In other words, for fat to burn efficiently and without production of excess toxic ketones, sufficient carbohydrate must be available. Ketosis can lead to many health problems and can be very serious at it's extreme.
15. Bad breath. Often called "keto breath" or "acetone breath", it's caused by production of acetones in a state of ketosis.
So why the low carb, high protein craze? I believe there are several reasons.
A. Weight loss (mostly muscle and muscle fluid) is often rapid during the first few weeks. This causes people to think they're losing fat rapidly.
B. It gives you "permission" to eat the "bad foods": bacon, eggs, burgers, steak, cheese, etc., and lots of fat.
C. Many see it as the new "magic" they've been looking for, although it's been around, in various forms, since the 1960's.
References:
- Brooks, G, Fahey, T: Exercise Physiology - Human Bioenergetics and its Applications. John Wiley and Sons, 1984.
- Cheatham, B, Kahn, CR: Insulin Action and Insulin Signaling
Network. Endocrine Review 16:117, 1995
- Fain, JN: Insulin Secretion and Action. Metabolism 33:672, 1984.
- Fitts, RH: Cellular Mechanisms of Muscle Fatigue. Physiological
Review 74:49, 1994
- Griffin, James, Ojeda, Sergio: Textbook of Endocrine
Physiology. Oxford University Press, 2000
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Saunders Company, 2000.
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Journal of Sports Medicine 24:S14, 1996
- Hoffman, JF, Jamieson, JD: Handbook of Physiology: Cell Physiology. Bethesda: American Physiological Society, 1997 - Kimball, SR, Vary, TC, Jefferson, LS: Regulation of Protein Synthesis by Insulin. Annual Review Physiology 56:321, 1994.
- McArdle, William, Katch, Frank, Katch, Victor: Exercise Physiology - Energy, Nutrition, and Human Performance. Lea and Febiger, 1981.
- Mcdougall, MD, John: The Mcdougall Plan. New Century Publishers, 1983.
- Simopoulos, AP, Pavlou, KN: Nutrition and Fitness. Basel:
Karger, 1997
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 08:47 pm |
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JS,
Every time I read your posts about low carb dieting, I didn't engage, because I knew the best argument was to go and lose the weight rather than talk about it. It's been 91 pounds, so maybe now I can say something about it.
Do I eat enough vegetables, not by a long shot. It's not because the diet limits them, it's just because I don't bother. Not an excuse, just an admission. On the average, I probably get my 5 day -nowhere close to Nir's levels. I catch up most of the time and have a huge plate of cooked spinach or a "hubcap" salad. It's just that time of year where it's too hot to eat that much , at least until after dark.
This has just been my experience, but It's worth mentioning: Low carb dieting took the fat off the places I didn't want it and left "the girls" just the way they were . I would have been ok with losing them, but this is definitely preferred.
Skin problems? Just the opposite. Clears up the skin and the nails and hair grow out a lot better.
Long term: Yep. Dumped the sugar like a bad boyfriend! I may eat grains once in a while, but it just seems to trigger my allergies.
And no I don't buy the idea that low carb means you can have all the calories you want, but without "Carbage" I want less calories to begin with .
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 11:53 pm |
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| I am tested by my trainer with skin fold tests weekly and the ketogenic diet (I told you I attend an american Ivy league University and you assume I don't know what ketosis is before eating less than 30g of carbohydrates a day to achieve it? ) and after 100 pounds of fat loss there was roughly only 8-10 pounds of lean body mass loss. With this experience I fully advocate that low carbohydrate diets do not "kill muscle" the way anti low crabbers claim, in fact it preserves more muscle than a "healthy diet" of eating 10 servings of white starch a day. Last edited on 2 Aug 2011 12:21 am by TheAntiTroll
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Posted: 1 Aug 2011 11:56 pm |
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| And why would I eat a pie when a regular pie can easily match 300 g or more sugar, what you mean is I should eat grilled chicken breast with some black beans and mesclun salad. That sounds more filling anyways.
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Only reason I oppose you personally is because my successful weight loss included thermogenic pills (and yes I know what thermogenesis is and which hormones are affected in the thyroid, I co-wrote a paper in the summer on the correlation of increased CO2 intake in mice and increased lipolysis at Yale University), it included eating below BMR, and it included severe carbohydrate intake. And I also don't like you personally because you are mean spirited and don't realize theres more to everyone than their number on the scale.
You would wish the world had laws where everyone had to label their weights and body fat% on their shirts wouldn't you?
SO to everyone who might be reading this, NOT ONE DIET SOLUTION IS the ONLY SOLUTION! JSABD claims to be therefore he is a fake guru, LOW carb works, exercise works, thermogenic pills work, as long as you stick to something you will slim down!
P.S. i highly doubt you read more than just the abstracts of those "papers" you are referencing, which I highly doubt has been peer reviewed or replicated. You probably googled exactly: "low carb studies" and read the abstract (background + purpose of study + results in 2 sentences) and chose the ones that favor your stance (anti low carb). That seems to be a highly scientific and non biased conclusion of points you got there. Now go eat a pie because you will like it, it has lots of sugar which you would conclude as "healthy" for you.Last edited on 2 Aug 2011 12:08 am by TheAntiTroll
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Posted: 2 Aug 2011 12:17 am |
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Besides Tankgirl also agreeing that lowered carbohydrate restriction increases fat loss ( not just weight loss) and minimally has any of those side effect JSABD suggests,
Tons of bodybuilders go through bulking/cutting phases that DONT JUST HAVE CALORIC Differences as your thermodynamics theory suggests (and I know for sure I have taken higher level core physics classes at more prestigious universities than your google searches). If they abided by your theory they would just eat more calories bulking and fewer cutting. But they also manipulate carbohydrates depending on their cycle. You know why it's more than just calories calories? Go read Good Calories, Bad Calories (I highly recommend, but perhaps you don't want to read it because Gary Taubes is infinitely more successful than you as a author and dietician (perhaps his Harvard, Stanford, and Columbia alma mater helps).Don't be jealous.
You don't even have to reply because I won't be visiting your Tough Love anymore knowing that you are completely idiotic in your claims and delusional into thinking your method of engaging people works. Anyhow, if you were successful you wouldn't be 60 and trolling around a weight loss forum, rather you would be the next Times Best Seller now wouldn't you?
Keep telling yourself you are trying to help others but through your words anyone can tell that you are a sad and failed lonely man who's trying to get some attention (or making himself less of a sad failure) by poking others where you know it might hurt (calling people fat on a weight loss forum how sick is that, like they don't know that or aren't trying)).
But for now. you can only call me a former fatty, Thank YouLast edited on 2 Aug 2011 12:25 am by TheAntiTroll
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JSABD
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Posted: 2 Aug 2011 12:56 am |
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Tankgirl wrote: JS,
Every time I read your posts about low carb dieting, I didn't engage, because I knew the best argument was to go and lose the weight rather than talk about it. It's been 91 pounds, so maybe now I can say something about it.
Do I eat enough vegetables, not by a long shot. It's not because the diet limits them, it's just because I don't bother. Not an excuse, just an admission. On the average, I probably get my 5 day -nowhere close to Nir's levels. I catch up most of the time and have a huge plate of cooked spinach or a "hubcap" salad. It's just that time of year where it's too hot to eat that much , at least until after dark.
This has just been my experience, but It's worth mentioning: Low carb dieting took the fat off the places I didn't want it and left "the girls" just the way they were . I would have been ok with losing them, but this is definitely preferred.
Skin problems? Just the opposite. Clears up the skin and the nails and hair grow out a lot better.
Long term: Yep. Dumped the sugar like a bad boyfriend! I may eat grains once in a while, but it just seems to trigger my allergies.
And no I don't buy the idea that low carb means you can have all the calories you want, but without "Carbage" I want less calories to begin with .
Corn sweetners can be a problem because most corn today is genetically altered. At the risk of sounding like Puff's Plus our food supply is a bit toxic.
Sugar is empty calories and it should be used sparingly but raw fibrous pant based carbs are what humans do best on. Our digestive systems evolved to eat primarily a plant based diet.
The ideal diet for humans is raw plant based with protein coming from legumes, fish, lean dairy and lean meats. Unfortunately we are limited to how much ocean fish we can eat do to industrial pollution by greedy corporations.
Whole grains are usually OK. There are many kinds of wheat and wheat is a grass and grasses can trigger allergies.
The hard squashes are a good source of complex carbs. I really like spaghetti squash with some of my marinara sauce. It's easy to cook and you can eat a lot of it.
There are many grains. You may not be allergic to all of them.
Barley
Bulgur wheat
Corn
Durum wheat
Fonio
Kamut
Millet
Oats
Popcorn
Rice
Rye
Semolina wheat
Sorghum
Spelt
Teff
Triticale
Wheat
Wild rice
Gluten-Containing Grains Gluten is a collection of proteins contained in some Grass Family grains. These grains need to be avoided by people with celiac disease and with non-celiac gluten sensitivity.
(family: Poaceae)Barley
Bulgur wheat
Durum wheat
Kamut
Oats (may contain a gluten analogue; usually contaminated by gluten in processing)
Semolina wheat
Spelt
Triticale
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Posted: 2 Aug 2011 03:44 am |
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Eww, anything but Spaghetti squash - it's so stringy!
Haven't tried any of the exotic looking ones yet, because they're normally HUGE, but the zukes & yellows are a staple this time of year. Nice thing about yellow squash: It's like cauliflower- hit it with a blender and NOBODY can detect it! 
And then there's pumpkin: Usually in October and November I go into pumpkin-mania. I even add it to protein shakes!
BTW: lose the sugar and the crust, and pumpkin pie is a really good easy breakfast,baked in coffee mugs or ramekins.
I might eventually add back wild and brown rice, they didn't seem to cause any problems. Definitely plan to add back local sweet corn and there's even a local popcorn grower. However on the whole, grains aren't much of a priority. I just can't find anything they have that veggies lack, veggies are quicker to cook, and a lot lower calorie, so why bother?
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Posted: 2 Aug 2011 09:27 pm |
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JSABD:
I think you should add quinoa to your list.
I know it's technically a seed, but it's eaten like grain, and it's a healthy source of carbohydrates.
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