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ItsOnlyMe
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Posted: 25 Jul 2011 08:17 am |
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JSABD wrote:
I am proposing to Nir and others at CPH to open a Tough Love forum on this site.
Well JSABD, you've got what you wanted. A TOUGH LOVE forum.
No doubt, there'll be many topics and posts on this forum. But please remember that there is a difference between genuine tough love and personal attacks. If that fine line isn't crossed, I'm sure this will be a useful forum.
I assume that all your tough love will now be confined to this section, so that users who read the other CPH forums won't need to be exposed to your strong opinions.
If so, then I think this might be a success!
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PuffsPlus
Distinguished Member
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Posted: 25 Jul 2011 09:25 am |
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Congratulations, JSABD!
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PuffsPlus
Distinguished Member
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Posted: 25 Jul 2011 09:41 am |
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One reason this forum makes me happy is that I can now openly debate JSABD/Chris Brady without being accused of "personal bickering" by other posters here.
Because I do want to debate him. JSABD/Chris Brady always makes a lot of unsupported assertions, as I see it, and I'd like to explore those further. I strongly suspect they are just his personal beliefs and he has absolutely no objective evidence to back them up, but I'd like to see that for sure.
So, Chris, I think our truce is still in effect, no? Will you engage me without ad hominems? I promise to do the same.
Yes, I realize this means you'll keep trying your "gluttony cure" on me here. OK, I suppose that might be the price of continuing to engage you. I suppose as long as it's limited to this forum I could be up to that challenge.
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JSABD
Distinguished Member
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Posted: 25 Jul 2011 03:58 pm |
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PuffsPlus wrote: One reason this forum makes me happy is that I can now openly debate JSABD/Chris Brady without being accused of "personal bickering" by other posters here.
Because I do want to debate him. JSABD/Chris Brady always makes a lot of unsupported assertions, as I see it, and I'd like to explore those further. I strongly suspect they are just his personal beliefs and he has absolutely no objective evidence to back them up, but I'd like to see that for sure.
So, Chris, I think our truce is still in effect, no? Will you engage me without ad hominems? I promise to do the same.
Yes, I realize this means you'll keep trying your "gluttony cure" on me here. OK, I suppose that might be the price of continuing to engage you. I suppose as long as it's limited to this forum I could be up to that challenge.
Thank you for your support. Let's get to you baseless charges of unsupported claims and let's discuss them one by one.
Did you forget that I am giving you the opportunity to discredit my approach and methods? Here is your chance. You can do it in the tough love forum. Destroy me!
Prove me a charlatan. Take my cure and show everyone in the entire WWW that it doesn't work and that I am full of #%@&! and just a mean fat hating troll.
Start a thread asking to go through the cure and play fair and be honest in the process and 2 thing can happen. It won't work and you will get to gloat or it will work and you will add 20 healthy years to your life. Either way YOU win.
I promised you privately to be exceedingly kind to you and I will keep that promise.
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JSABD
Distinguished Member
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Posted: 25 Jul 2011 04:18 pm |
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ItsOnlyMe wrote: JSABD wrote:
I am proposing to Nir and others at CPH to open a Tough Love forum on this site.
Well JSABD, you've got what you wanted. A TOUGH LOVE forum.
No doubt, there'll be many topics and posts on this forum. But please remember that there is a difference between genuine tough love and personal attacks. If that fine line isn't crossed, I'm sure this will be a useful forum.
I assume that all your tough love will now be confined to this section, so that users who read the other CPH forums won't need to be exposed to your strong opinions.
If so, then I think this might be a success!
I hope some people get something positive out of it. The same old approach hasn't worked for the past 30 years. What I do has worked. Not 100% but greater than 60% with the groups who have come to me.
I would have to clone myself a million times to reach everyone. When I first started this the dieters agreed to share this with others and to help others.
I am no humanitarian. Maybe if I like people a little better I would be a humanitarian. I am doing this to stick it to corporations and more particularly the medical corporation who are exploiting obesity for all it's worth.
I don't hate fat people but I don't have, shall we say, much admiration for them and admittedly I have disdain to parents who fatten up their kids.
I am not a cheerleader. Richard Simmons did that and it didn't work. I actually think Richard Simmons is a nice guy.
I am not a diets theorist either. I don't tell people what to eat. They figure it out on their own.
I know the weak point in most commercial diets. I know how to patch them.
I know why most people fail. Very often my method changes that.
This is not 100% and I still have a lot to learn and I learn something with every exchange. I have helped people who had been to MDs, personal trainers. Weight Watchers, considering surgery, ect.. This is not magic and I'm not a creative genius. I merely approached this from a fresh perspective and looked at the problem in a methodical and scientific manner.
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