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JSABD
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 Let's be brutally honest here. The success rate for people attempting dietary reform is very low. Heroin addicts have higher success rates as do drunks and other druggies.

I will offer my many years of expertise in teaching dietary reform to anyone who has the courage to enter my realm. I am proposing to Nir and others at CPH to open a Tough Love forum on this site. There, I and other like minded people will conduct a cyber boot camp for fatlings serious about making positive changes in their lives. Things will get rough in there but I predict a better than 50% success rate.

Your thoughts?

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 Here is a Food For Thought:

I think you are a 50 year old fatling who lost his youth years to being fat therefore at 50 is still trolling around forums and youtube (LOL) and google image. Also you never post your pic suggesting you are still fat/obese so you should shed some tough love on yourself before you give off random predictions or label people on this forum.

You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!

As always~TheAnti Troll:pig::grin:
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 TheAntiTroll wrote: Here is a Food For Thought:

I think you are a 50 year old fatling who lost his youth years to being fat therefore at 50 is still trolling around forums and youtube (LOL) and google image. Also you never post your pic suggesting you are still fat/obese so you should shed some tough love on yourself before you give off random predictions or label people on this forum.

You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!

As always~TheAnti Troll:pig::grin:

I agree with everything you wrote, AntiTroll, except that I understand CG Brady/JSABD/Chris Brady/Ball/Balldez/Proud Plumpette/Reverend Burn/Fat Bastard (and whatever else he's calling himself these days) is closer to 56.

But yeah, I hope your post finally shuts down this tiresome troll. :devil:
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 I've talked to Plumpette- she's a fan of his, but not him. If you see the two of their posts side by side, their pop culture references are about 40 years apart. I feel really badly for the poor kid because his poison makes her worse.

Plus JS can't move away from the same subjects/ phrases/arguments he uses every time in every place.

And JS,Tough love with you is a joke. you said it yourself. You don't really care about the individual fat person, just that if they "reform", they hurt the "corporatists". I still say you get your jollies out of your so called "reforming" otherwise you wouldn't be so persistent about it.
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 Tankgirl wrote: I've talked to Plumpette- she's a fan of his, but not him. If you see the two of their posts side by side, their pop culture references are about 40 years apart. I feel really badly for the poor kid because his poison makes her worse.

Plus JS can't move away from the same subjects/ phrases/arguments he uses every time in every place.

And JS,Tough love with you is a joke. you said it yourself. You don't really care about the individual fat person, just that if they "reform", they hurt the "corporatists". I still say you get your jollies out of your so called "reforming" otherwise you wouldn't be so persistent about it.

Tankgirl - that's interesting about Plumpette. Her posts on MyFatSpouse are inconsistent which, as you point out, is more than can be said for JSABD. He is clearly a very sad individual.

He recently posted a link at MyFatSpouse to a video clip of one of his alter-egos "Reverend Burn" ranting about gluttony. I think it's actually JSABD (who else could it be?). If it is him, he's obese and quite unattractive. Which would explain a lot.
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 There is clearly something more to his OBSESSION with ranting on the overweight = he was overweight or had a traumatic incidence regarding this subject because that is the only way to get someone THIS OBSESSED. Obsessing over something and flaming people doesn't solve your deep rooted problem
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 TheAntiTroll wrote: There is clearly something more to his OBSESSION with ranting on the overweight = he was overweight or had a traumatic incidence regarding this subject because that is the only way to get someone THIS OBSESSED. Obsessing over something and flaming people doesn't solve your deep rooted problem
Exactly. On a South Beach Diet forum I used to post on, he trolled under his "Ball" alias. He posted the same rants we've all seen over and over again: "Tell me why you can't eat less than 2000 calories a day (women) and 2500 calories a day (men)." Of course he was banned.
That was EIGHT YEARS AGO!!!

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 TheAntiTroll wrote: Here is a Food For Thought:

I think you are a 50 year old fatling who lost his youth years to being fat therefore at 50 is still trolling around forums and youtube (LOL) and google image. Also you never post your pic suggesting you are still fat/obese so you should shed some tough love on yourself before you give off random predictions or label people on this forum.

You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!

As always~TheAnti Troll:pig::grin:
Go to Bigger Fatter Blog and look at Proud FA.



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 "You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!"

"You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!"

"You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!"

Nuff said
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 SmittenKitten wrote: TheAntiTroll wrote: There is clearly something more to his OBSESSION with ranting on the overweight = he was overweight or had a traumatic incidence regarding this subject because that is the only way to get someone THIS OBSESSED. Obsessing over something and flaming people doesn't solve your deep rooted problem
Exactly. On a South Beach Diet forum I used to post on, he trolled under his "Ball" alias. He posted the s
ame rants we've all seen over and over again: "Tell me why you can't eat less than 2000 calories a day (women) and 2500 calories a day (men)." Of course he was banned.
That was EIGHT YEARS AGO!!!

What were the responses when he/I "Tell me why you can't eat less than 2000 calories a day (women) and 2500 calories a day (men)."

Did anyone give an honest answer?

Hey can you tell me why anyone can't eat less than 2000 calories a day (women) and 2500 calories a day (men). I doubt you will answer. It's a fair question. Answer it.:tongue:
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 TheAntiTroll wrote: "You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!"

"You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!"

"You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!"

Nuff said
x 2 :devil:
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 TheAntiTroll wrote: Here is a Food For Thought:

I think you are a 50 year old fatling who lost his youth years to being fat therefore at 50 is still trolling around forums and youtube (LOL) and google image. Also you never post your pic suggesting you are still fat/obese so you should shed some tough love on yourself before you give off random predictions or label people on this forum.

You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!

As always~TheAnti Troll:pig::grin:
Food for thought? I think you just want FOOD.


Here you go!
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 Because 1700 is too many. Haven't done 2k since Feb.
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 I definitely support opening a "Tough Love" section of the forum if it means JSABD/Chris Brady will actually stay there and not venture out into the General Discussions section.

Let's give this troll his own bridge under which he can hang out.
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 Tankgirl wrote: I've talked to Plumpette- she's a fan of his, but not him. If you see the two of their posts side by side, their pop culture references are about 40 years apart. I feel really badly for the poor kid because his poison makes her worse.

Plus JS can't move away from the same subjects/ phrases/arguments he uses every time in every place.

And JS,Tough love with you is a joke. you said it yourself. You don't really care about the individual fat person, just that if they "reform", they hurt the "corporatists". I still say you get your jollies out of your so called "reforming" otherwise you wouldn't be so persistent about it.
Aha. In a related vein, Chris Brady told me on here via PM that Bigger Fatter Blog is actually shared among three people, with him being the main writer and admin of it.

I realized that the "Teddy Bear" guy was someone different. Maybe PP is the third person?
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 JSABD wrote: SmittenKitten wrote: TheAntiTroll wrote: There is clearly something more to his OBSESSION with ranting on the overweight = he was overweight or had a traumatic incidence regarding this subject because that is the only way to get someone THIS OBSESSED. Obsessing over something and flaming people doesn't solve your deep rooted problem
Exactly. On a South Beach Diet forum I used to post on, he trolled under his "Ball" alias. He posted the s
ame rants we've all seen over and over again: "Tell me why you can't eat less than 2000 calories a day (women) and 2500 calories a day (men)." Of course he was banned.
That was EIGHT YEARS AGO!!!
What were the responses when he/I "Tell me why you can't eat less than 2000 calories a day (women) and 2500 calories a day (men)."

Did anyone give an honest answer?Yeah - they gave you an honest answer by banning you! :devil:


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 Lets get back to the main point:

WHY are you dodging my question? or you know im entirely true.

PICS or gtfo PICS or gtfo! lets say it all together!

PICS or gtfo!:sad:

You are not who you say. You are so fake.

Refer to my name please

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 Also does anyone notice the distasteful tactic he uses in arguing? He dodges accusations or questions instead of addressing them and posts google image pictures to distract people's attention.

He does not want people to know he is a morbidly obese man in his mother's basement that hates fat people because he has given hope on himself.:dizzy:
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 TheAntiTroll wrote: He does not want people to know he is a morbidly obese man in his mother's basement that hates fat people because he has given hope on himself.:dizzy:

I strongly suspect that - not only is he a morbidly obese man in his mother's basement who hates fat people because he has given up hope for himself - but that he's also unemployed.

I've heard talk that he's an HVAC engineer, but I say he's an unemployed HVAC engineer. How else could he find the time to create and maintain several websites, create so many false identities, and troll the web for bizarre images and videos? :devil:

Chris - We're still waiting for you to post your photo holding up a sign saying JSABD! :chicken:
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 Tankgirl wrote: I've talked to Plumpette- she's a fan of his, but not him. If you see the two of their posts side by side, their pop culture references are about 40 years apart. I feel really badly for the poor kid because his poison makes her worse.

Plus JS can't move away from the same subjects/ phrases/arguments he uses every time in every place.

And JS,Tough love with you is a joke. you said it yourself. You don't really care about the individual fat person, just that if they "reform", they hurt the "corporatists". I still say you get your jollies out of your so called "reforming" otherwise you wouldn't be so persistent about it.
This year over 400,000 Americans will eat themselves to death and millions more will suffer a myriad of maladies. They will leave leave a huge path of destruction in their wake and they further destroy our health care system with their unbridled food lust.

I don't care about the individuals because I don't really know them. My motivation is not altruistic and I am not so shallow that I need warm fuzzies or say I do it because I love people. If it is altruistic is is so that my kids live in a better world. In fact we have discussed leaving the decadent US for a better country.

I see a world overrun by fat lemmings. By 2020 there will not be enough fit people for public safety and military. Fat Land sucks. My kids deserve better.

The following video is really going to anger the NAAFA fat girl trolls here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdnGj53LUMo

I find it interesting that other than you the other posters who responded to this thread only have a few posts. Who are the real trolls?

Now I am being accused of being Reverend Burn. There is a resemblance between Fat Bastard and Rev Burn but that is only because fat people all look alike.



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 Tankgirl wrote: Because 1700 is too many. Haven't done 2k since Feb.
Why are the laws of physics so tough for women to grasp?

The only way that could be true is if you weigh around 105 pounds or your body temperature were 90 degrees.

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 LET Me ask againnnnnnnnnnn why are you dodging my question?

PICS or GTFO PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS?

WHy do you not show pics of urself?

scared much? that people find out who u r
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 Since you've used urban dictionary before:

2. troll
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.


It would have your picture next to it, IF you had one.:devil:
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 Why won't JSABD post his photo?

It's a perfectly reasonable request.

Once again, I'm asking him why he is dodging our question? :devil:
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 When JBSAD makes any sort of comment now on let it be in the spirit of the community that we ask him every time: "why dodge showing us your pic"
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 JSABD's new avatar pic looks like a random photo of a WOMAN which could be found on almost any forum.

And if she is holding up a sign saying "JSABD" it's too small to read.

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 Ok there's your pic.


Next, what would a "fatling" have to do to redeem themselves? I'm sure losing the weight's not enough, you'd expect them to gain it back.

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 Tankgirl wrote: Next, what would a "fatling" have to do to redeem themselves? I'm sure losing the weight's not enough, you'd expect them to gain it back.

Or if he is operating true to form, he'd also say:

* that the woman (and it's nearly always a woman) was "a greedy fat girl" until they got down to a BMI of 18

* that if the woman did lose weight successfully, he'd accuse her of having weight loss surgery.

There's no way any woman can "redeem themselves" for JSABD.

And have you noticed how he thinks everyone here is a Fat Acceptance troll - I wonder why he's so paranoid?

The more pertinent question is - why hasn't he been banned yet?

 

 

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I?óÔé¼Ôäóm gonna hate myself in the morning for even responding to this?óÔé¼?ª.but my thoughts:

You want a ?óÔé¼?ôtough love?óÔé¼?Ø forum where you can air your views and express your opinions without the pesky filter of politeness, common courtesy and being respectful of differing viewpoints.  Go for it.  Really.  Please.  

Get out there and establish your OWN site/forum instead of repeatedly trying to make your points and push your views on existing sites/forums where most of the members view you as a mentally unstable troll and don?óÔé¼Ôäót even want you around.   I'm not saying that you ARE a mentally unstable troll, I'm simply saying, in a kind of tough love vernacular, that that's how you come across when you spend year after year posting the same repetitive diatribe on countless numbers of sites using multiple identities.

Serious, credible - and credentialed - fitness trainers/nutritionists/etc. who have a unique point of view and chose the internet to promote themselves and their programs  have their own (successful) sites/forums, newsletters and e-books. They do not waste their time constantly trolling (and being banned from) multiple weight loss related sites.   If your method is as successful as you say it is - there's no question that you should be promoting it ON YOUR VERY OWN SITE.

You repeated refer to all your "peeps" and the hundreds of people you've "helped" over the years...surely that means you have plenty of people who'd happily flock, in veritable droves, to your very own site where you could rapidly establish yourself as (and be recognized for) the "tough love guru" of the weight loss industry.

So, my thought, if I haven't made it clear:  a great big resounding "YES" - you really really should go and ESTABLISH YOUR VERY OWN TOUGH LOVE SITE.
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 The creator of the forum explained why he won't ban him in another thread.
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 SmittenKitten wrote: Tankgirl wrote: Next, what would a "fatling" have to do to redeem themselves? I'm sure losing the weight's not enough, you'd expect them to gain it back.

Or if he is operating true to form, he'd also say:

* that the woman (and it's nearly always a woman) was "a greedy fat girl" until they got down to a BMI of 18

Lies and histrionics of a jealous fat girl. Guys like me, and there are a lot of us reject women like you and it is not only because you are fat. It's not because we are shallow. It's because the of things in your character that have made you fat. You FA girls don't get dates in spite of the fact that there are men who are willing to date fat girls.

I don't care if a woman is super skinny. I like Kim Kardashian until she opens her mouth.

Greedy fat girl? If food means more to you than your kids or husband what would you call it?

* that if the woman did lose weight successfully, he'd accuse her of having weight loss surgery.


Now you are grasping for straws. I discourage people form have WLS because they are better off fat and many WLS procedure are deadly. I most really hate fat people if I am doing that. Warning them about the WLS meat grinder. I must hate kids too for admonishing their parents for making them fat.

There's no way any woman can "redeem themselves" for JSABD.

There is. It's called contrition which means being contrite and humble and contrite and humble people do not refer to themselves as BBW's or SSBBW's

And have you noticed how he thinks everyone here is a Fat Acceptance troll - I wonder why he's so paranoid?

Another fat girl distortion. Folks, the FA movement has an agenda. They will deny but they promote obesity and gluttony. On the surface fat acceptance does not sound like such a bad thing and in the 1970's when Bill Fabrey started NAAFA meant National Association Aiding Fat Americans. Today is a sick cult that has merged with radical feminism. Even feminists like Susan Powter won't go near them. Today NAAFA means National Association Advancing Fat Acceptance. There mission and membership changed.

If someone really want to aid fat Americans they would get them to embrace dietary and lifestyle reform.

The more pertinent question is - why hasn't he been banned yet?


 

 


The real question is this. Why are you here? If you are here to give me a hard time you can do it via PM. You have an agenda and that agenda is silencing anyone who says that obesity if primarily the fault of the obese and that that obesity is reversible.

If you are here to shed those UGLY pounds there are a whole lot of people here doing that. BUT that is not why you are here is it?  You are on some sick mission to protect all the poor misunderstood fatties from evil thing like logic and the laws of physics. You must be a modern day Joan of Arc but I pity your horse.:horse:
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 suenos wrote:
I?óÔé¼Ôäóm gonna hate myself in the morning for even responding to this?óÔé¼?ª.but my thoughts:

You want a ?óÔé¼?ôtough love?óÔé¼?Ø forum where you can air your views and express your opinions without the pesky filter of politeness, common courtesy and being respectful of differing viewpoints.  Go for it.  Really.  Please.  

Get out there and establish your OWN site/forum instead of repeatedly trying to make your points and push your views on existing sites/forums where most of the members view you as a mentally unstable troll and don?óÔé¼Ôäót even want you around.   I'm not saying that you ARE a mentally unstable troll, I'm simply saying, in a kind of tough love vernacular, that that's how you come across when you spend year after year posting the same repetitive diatribe on countless numbers of sites using multiple identities.

Serious, credible - and credentialed - fitness trainers/nutritionists/etc. who have a unique point of view and chose the internet to promote themselves and their programs  have their own (successful) sites/forums, newsletters and e-books. They do not waste their time constantly trolling (and being banned from) multiple weight loss related sites.   If your method is as successful as you say it is - there's no question that you should be promoting it ON YOUR VERY OWN SITE.

You repeated refer to all your "peeps" and the hundreds of people you've "helped" over the years...surely that means you have plenty of people who'd happily flock, in veritable droves, to your very own site where you could rapidly establish yourself as (and be recognized for) the "tough love guru" of the weight loss industry.

So, my thought, if I haven't made it clear:  a great big resounding "YES" - you
really really should go and ESTABLISH YOUR VERY OWN TOUGH LOVE SITE.

I like Nir. I think he's bright and honest and I think a lot of people can learn form his example.

I have a site that funnels dieters and people with EDs to me and I have more than I can handle. I am also working with software developer on an app for what I do.

Reading and engaging fat people and dieters was a great way of figuring out how they tick. The truth is most want to be slender they don't want to do what it take. The data proves that. I know why they don't and the answer is simple. Food is a greater pay-off to them than being healthy. Instant gratification trumps personal responsibility so in effect they accept the fat when they should be accepting responsibility.

These exchanges with my detractors are not hurting CPS or it serious members. Please believe that. If you are honest with yourself you will see that I have not fired the first, second or even third shot.

Because this forum/server is located in the UK they can more easily write lies about me with no threat of legal or criminal action.

I proposed a tough love forum and the only people who responded were Newbies who registered today with the exception of ItsOnlyMe. 

I offered member here to put my method to the test and that member declined. I knew she would. What I do works. I promised to be exceedingly kind and told her it would not take long. Two things could have happened. It would have worked and she would have left swallowing some pride you she could have discredited what I do. Either way it would have been a teaching moment for all of us.

Nutritionists, trainers, doctors, and psychologists have dropped the ball on curing obesity. They offer the same lame stuff that didn't work 20 years ago. They put out a lot of wrong information and every few years package it differently.

Now we have TV shows that exploit obesity and the obese and while I don't have a whole lot of respect for the obese I would never exploit them on shows like the Biggest Loser or Brookhaven or the 4 or 5 other shows that I refuse to watch. I have far more respect for the obese than I do for the people who exploit them. I will go so far to say that I would rather sit next to a big stinky fattie on a plane than some charlatan like Jillian Michaels.

If you are still struggling I will help you either publicly or privately your call no charge.
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 JS, The obesity crisis is like any other health crisis that's come along. The general population has to get to a point where there are too many people dying not to demand action on it.

Look at cigarette ads from the 50's - Doctors pushing cigarettes, for crying out loud.

A lot of people didn't care about AIDS until Magic Johnson admitted he had it.
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 Tankgirl wrote:
The creator of the forum explained why he won't ban him in another thread.
view_topic.php?id=2127&forum_id=19&jump_to=23513#p23513

Wow - so insulting others is only forbidden in a thread started by someone else, but members are free to bash other posters if they start the thread?

:dizzy:

Very strange forum you have here.
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 @JSABD:

did ya know that you really don't have to quote the whole entire post to respond to someone?  really, you don't.

I like Nir too.  I wish he'd ban you again...this time for good...but just because he hasn't done so doesn't make me like him less.  I hold on to the hope that one day, sooner than later, you will cross the line and he'll have enough and "poof"

If you have your own site, with more members than you can handle, then I really think you should hang out there instead of here.  really. no, really.  In fact, if you'd provide a link, I'd love to visit your site.

You're right that your "exchanges" with your "detractors", when it's limited to a single thread like this one, is not "harmful" to the site or its other members.  It can even be amusing - in a train wreck kinda way.  this particular thread actually has made me laugh a time or two.  But when you start threads that are offensive in their very premise and/or title, derail other threads with petty bickering, bully new members asking questions, make threads to specifically "call out" other members, and are insulting to established members - then yea, you do harm the site IMO, and to think otherwise is delusional on your part.  

and thanks for the offer of your help.  but in case you missed it - I've been maintaining (with 15lb up an down) a 75+ lb weight loss for more than five years.  and although i don't train anymore, I'm actually a certified personal trainer with real live university based courses in nutrition and exercise....not that I don't find your vast experience in "observing" hundreds of fat people over the years impressive - not to mention your awesome google skills 


eta:  I'm making light of it because I refuse to take you seriously, but what I don't take lightly is the fact that you have been the cause of legitimate new members to steer away from this site and long (very long) term members wanting to back away from the site because of your increasing presence.   I KNOW the generally smart thing to do is simply to not feed trolls by engaging...but I don't think you are the garden variety troll (take that as a compliment) and don't think that will work with you....since I care about this site and it's members, but I don't have the ability to ban you (which I would do because I personally feel you are destructive rather than constructive), all I can do is continue to heavily moderate you into compliance with the posting rules..... 
 

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 Tankgirl wrote: JS, The obesity crisis is like any other health crisis that's come along. The general population has to get to a point where there are too many people dying not to demand action on it.

Look at cigarette ads from the 50's - Doctors pushing cigarettes, for crying out loud.

A lot of people didn't care about AIDS until Magic Johnson admitted he had it.
People get addicted to nicotine and I have friends who kicked heroine and booze but they found nicotine to me the toughest.

AIDS is a scam. I don't even think Magic Johnson has it or ever had it. In fact there is cure. It turns out that 1 in 100 caucasians  are immune to HIV. It also turns out when you inject some bone marrow into people with AIDS they get well and no trace of the virus can be found. Google it. The drug companies can't make money on bone marrow.

Until something more exciting than junk food comes along people will be fat unless they grow up and act like adults.

Nicotine addiction is preventable -- Don't smoke.

AIDS -- don't get infected

Obesity -- Eat responsibly.  In other words mend gluttonous ways.

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 Junk food-exiting? No way - if anything it's a "downer"- why else would they call it comfort eating?
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 JSABD wrote:
I have a site that funnels dieters and people with EDs to me and I have more than I can handle.


Hmm, I wonder if JSABD's site is as successful as the diet book he tried unsuccessfully to publish, using his "Balldez" alter-ego back in 2008. This thread, in which he sought advice from published authors who slammed him then banned him, is a long read, but hilarious!

http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95454

I guess the world still isn't ready for his ideas! :chicken:
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 suenos wrote: @JSABD:

did ya know that you really don't have to quote the whole entire post to respond to someone?  really, you don't.

I don't want to take anything out of context.

I like Nir too.  I wish he'd ban you again...this time for good...but just because he hasn't done so doesn't make me like him less.  I hold on to the hope that one day, sooner than later, you will cross the line and he'll have enough and "poof"


I think Nir cares more about people's health and well being that he does about political correctness. That's my impression.

If you have your own site, with more members than you can handle, then I really think you should hang out there instead of here.  really. no, really.  In fact, if you'd provide a link, I'd love to visit your site.


I am a contributor to 4 sites. One is http://www.gastricbypasskills.blogspot.com You can find the other sites by going their and clicking on Fat Bastard. I also have an invitation only site. I don't think you'd like it. There are medical and science people there.

You're right that your "exchanges" with your "detractors", when it's limited to a single thread like this one, is not "harmful" to the site or its other members.  It can even be amusing - in a train wreck kinda way.  this particular thread actually has made me laugh a time or two.  But when you start threads that are offensive in their very premise and/or title, derail other threads with petty bickering, bully new members asking questions, make threads to specifically "call out" other members, and are insulting to established members - then yea, you do harm the site IMO, and to think otherwise is delusional on your part. 

Get over yourself. I don't bully. I bust liars. The new members are the ones attacking me. I am laughing my azz off at them because I know they are not here to lose weight. If they were I would help them. I don't mince words with people. Some people like that about me and others don't.

and thanks for the offer of your help.  but in case you missed it - I've been maintaining (with 15lb up an down) a 75+ lb weight loss for more than five years.  and although i don't train anymore, I'm actually a certified personal trainer with real live university based courses in nutrition and exercise....not that I don't find your vast experience in "observing" hundreds of fat people over the years impressive - not to mention your awesome google skills

Personal trainer huh? I can count reps too. :tongue: So you are not impressed with my study of obesity. While others we studying the leptin level in lab rats I figured that being that rats are not suffering from an obesity epidemic I would study fat people. And since there is not organic reason for why they are fat I decided to indentify the behavior ones and I did. Then I figured out how to get them to change their behaviors.


eta:  I'm making light of it because I refuse to take you seriously, but what I don't take lightly is the fact that you have been the cause of legitimate new members to steer away from this site and long (very long) term members wanting to back away from the site because of your increasing presence.   I KNOW the generally smart thing to do is simply to not feed trolls by engaging...but I don't think you are the garden variety troll (take that as a compliment) and don't think that will work with you....since I care about this site and it's members, but I don't have the ability to ban you (which I would do because I personally feel you are destructive rather than constructive), all I can do is continue to heavily moderate you into compliance with the posting rules..... 
 


I don't take you seriously either but here is some reality. If you had 10 fatties and I had 10 fatties who wanted to lose weight and keep it off my fatties would win. Your fatties would be fat most of them and most of mine would be lean. Am I sensing some jealousy?

Don't feed the trolls? They won't even stop feeding themselves and therein lies the problem. It's called self-control. They don't have any but they have a plan. Some of them came here to do battle with me because of my association with Bigger Fatter Blog. It would seem that they are also gluttons for punishment. If I wanted to be a dick I could ask my readers to stop by and break balls but I have way to much respect for Nir and what he is doing here.

It's interesting that you are a trainer and you are claiming to be fit and I was accused of being a fat guy and I proved to the trolls that I wasn't. I there any chance you'd post a picture that says, Hi JSABD? We don't want people thinking you are a fatttie. Do we?:cool: What do you look like sweetheart? Inquiring minds want to know.
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 JSABD wrote:
Lies and histrionics of a jealous fat girl. Guys like me, and there are a lot of us reject women like you and it is not only because you are fat. It's not because we are shallow. It's because the of things in your character that have made you fat. You FA girls don't get dates in spite of the fact that there are men who are willing to date fat girls... blah, blah, blah, etc.

In case you missed it over here:

forum19/12584.html

I'm actually a long-term maintainer, having lost 90 pounds (40% of my bodyweight) nearly eight years ago.

The thing is, JS, not everyone who hates you is a "jealous fat girl". Some people don't like you because you're an idiot who writes a lot of ill-informed BS.
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 SmittenKitten wrote: Tankgirl wrote:
The creator of the forum explained why he won't ban him in another thread.
view_topic.php?id=2127&forum_id=19&jump_to=23513#p23513

Wow - so insulting others is only forbidden in a thread started by someone else, but members are free to bash other posters if they start the thread?

:dizzy:

Very strange forum you have here.
Who is forcing you to post in my threads? Also I did not insult you. Maybe you would be happier in the NAAFA forum. Oooops that one is shut down but dimensions is still there.

Maybe you can go to Big Fat Blog. They get a new post ever week or so. You wouldn't have to deal with trolls there.

The MAN who runs this forum is an Englishman and in England things are not so politically correct. The Brits are a bit more honorable than Americans. Don't you just hate that?


For the rest of you wounded girls think of me as Dr House. You may not like me but I'm the one who can cure your fattitude. Did you know that the actor who plays House is a Brit?

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 I really should find somthing more productive to do with my time when innsomnia strikes:tongue:

two things:  @JSABD:  I don't post my pic on public forums because I work in a very public field....however, because I trust Nir through my long association with him on this site I did send him access to my on-line photo journal which contains both before and after pics....and has my real name attached.  To you - ummm, not so much trust in your integrity.

second thing:  @SmittenKitten:  I'm reading that link you posted right now and it's hysterically funny, I'm only on page one, but so far the best line ever is one guy's description of jSBAD's thought process:  "I reject your reality and insert my own."  Back to an entertaining read.
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 SmittenKitten wrote: JSABD wrote:
Lies and histrionics of a jealous fat girl. Guys like me, and there are a lot of us reject women like you and it is not only because you are fat. It's not because we are shallow. It's because the of things in your character that have made you fat. You FA girls don't get dates in spite of the fact that there are men who are willing to date fat girls... blah, blah, blah, etc.

In case you missed it over here:

forum19/12584.html

I'm actually a long-term maintainer, having lost 90 pounds (40% of my bodyweight) nearly eight years ago.

The thing is, JS, not everyone who hates you is a "jealous fat girl". Some people don't like you because you're an idiot who writes a lot of ill-informed BS.
Let's see you in a picture holding a sign saying Smitten Kitten.


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If you can't lie any better than that you might as well tell the truth. I think you are a jealous and angry fat girl because you have been rejected and passed over by men who look like me many times. You see us with pretty women and you hate them and you hate us simply because the male brain is wired to find unhealthy fat females unattractive. You problem is not with men like me or women like Calista Flockhart. Your problem is with Sara Lee, Little Debbie and Ben & Jerry.

I need to bust a rhyme.

Boom Shakka Lakka says she's a maintainer
Boom Shakka Lakka She's really a Gainer
Boom Shakka Lakka man is she rude is rude
Boom Shakka Lakka bring her some food........ STAT!

JSABD drops the mic, strikes a pose, the fat girls swoon, Then he cartwheels off stage, is greeted by his hot wife in the wings and heads to the limo.

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 suenos wrote: I really should find somthing more productive to do with my time when innsomnia strikes:tongue:

two things:?é?á @JSABD:?é?á I don't post my pic on public forums because I work in a very public field....however,?é?ábecause?é?áI trust Nir through my long association with him?é?áon this?é?ásite I did send?é?áhim access to my?é?áon-line photo journal which contains both before and after pics....and has my real name attached.?é?á To you - ummm, not so much trust in your integrity.

second thing:?é?á @SmittenKitten:?é?á I'm reading that link you posted right now and it's hysterically funny, I'm only on page one, but so far the best line ever is one guy's description of jSBAD's thought process:?é?á "I reject your reality and insert my own."?é?á Back to an entertaining read.

BUSTED!

I obscured my face and you can do the same. The jury who acquitted Casey Anthony and OJ wouldn't buy that one.

That clever line is a rip off from Adam Savage on Mythbusters.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8qcccZy03s

DOUBLE BUSTED!

It's kismet.:wink:
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 @JSABD:

dude, you do like the big fonts and giant pics don't cha?  Feel free to confirm with Nir that he was given access to my pics...if that's not good enough for you - oh well, I suppose my life will go merrily on whether you think I'm a fat chick or not.

This thread has been entertaining in a twisted way, but I?óÔé¼Ôäóm over it.  It's like banging my head against a brick wall.  Fruitless and stupid - the bricks stays firmly in place (being a brick and all) and I end up with a headache.

Gotta say though, that link where you are trying to get published authors to actually take you and your ideas seriously - well, it?óÔé¼Ôäós 30 mins of my life that I?óÔé¼Ôäóll never get back - but it was so funny it was worth it?óÔé¼?ªjust unbelievable?óÔé¼?ª.and when you shared your ?óÔé¼?ôsongs?óÔé¼?Ø about obese people - OMG - priceless.   Since you don't like the quote that one guy made when referring to you, here's some more:

?óÔé¼?ôI think your book is having a hard time getting published because it's a?óÔé¼?ª.hate-filled diatribe rather than anything genuinely meant to help?óÔé¼?ô.

?óÔé¼?ôAlthough he professes to not have any difficulty managing his weight, he wants to be the next weight-loss guru. Again, he lacks personal experience and is willing to forgo expert opinions in order to make it happen his way?óÔé¼?Ø



?óÔé¼?ôAll evidence points to the fact that this is an individual who must build up his own self-worth by tearing others down.?óÔé¼?Ø

?óÔé¼?ôI just find it rather sad that this man has devoted so much time and energy into something that's just... Evil.?óÔé¼?Ø



?óÔé¼?ôOnly his solutions hold any weight. (Pardon the pun.)?óÔé¼?Ø

?óÔé¼?ôThe poster obviously is not here to learn or to share, but to spew hate.?óÔé¼?Ø

And then, the inevitable, gee didn?óÔé¼Ôäót see this coming: ?óÔé¼?ôthis poster is banned?óÔé¼?Ø

:grin:

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 Hi JSABD,

Cool pic. It shows that you really are slim.

JSABD wrote:

I proposed a tough love forum and the only people who responded were Newbies who registered today with the exception of ItsOnlyMe.

Actually, I haven't responded till now.


JSABD wrote:

What were the responses when he/I "Tell me why you can't eat less than 2000 calories a day (women) and 2500 calories a day (men)."

Did anyone give an honest answer?

Hey can you tell me why anyone can't eat less than 2000 calories a day (women) and 2500 calories a day (men). I doubt you will answer. It's a fair question. Answer it.

That's an easy question to answer. We CAN eat less than 2000/2500 calories per day! Many of us ARE eating less than 2000/2500 calories per day! That's why we are successfully losing weight. I wonder why you assume that we're all pigging out on 5000 calories a day (or whatever figure you think it is).

We do admit that in most cases, we are to blame for our size, and we're now reducing that size by eating less calories, eating healthy, and following plans not so different to what you propose. Why is that such a problem?


JSABD wrote:

AIDS is a scam. I don't even think Magic Johnson has it or ever had it. In fact there is cure. It turns out that 1 in 100 caucasians are immune to HIV. It also turns out when you inject some bone marrow into people with AIDS they get well and no trace of the virus can be found. Google it. The drug companies can't make money on bone marrow.

I know that you probably have some knowledge about nutrition and exercise, and your picture proves that you know how to stay fit, and I respect you for that, but when it comes to non-weight-loss-matters, unless you are a medical expert, please don't use things you've googled as a medical authority. You know yourself, you can get all sorts of contradicting info by googling it.


JSABD wrote:

AIDS -- don't get infected.

Do you really believe that everyone with AIDS should blame themselves? What about all the children with AIDS?

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 Hmm, just found the tough love forum.  This guy has hit a nerve with so many of you hasn't he?  I'm not easily offended at all and though I see how others can take offense to him I don't.  To each their own and I admit to being slightly amused by this. I don't have the time to read through all of these posts but I did want to comment on one thing.

If I eat more then 2000 calories per day I will GAIN weight, plain and simple.  In fact, I can eat less then 2000 calories per day and still gain if my diet is consistently high in  carbs.  I have kept track of my calories, fats, carbs, and proteins for so long and I know exactly where my fat gains come from. ( I am my own case study) Either excess calories and/or excess carbs. And yes, eating an excess of either is my own fault and I did not get fat any other way then eating too much of the wrong foods. I only blame myself, duh! I would like to blame it on my metabolism or other things but I can't, it's all my own doing baby!

 We are not all one size fits all when it comes to weight loss, and I don't care what science reports as fact. Science has been proven wrong before and I'm sure it will be proven wrong again.

 

 
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 suenos wrote: @JSABD:

dude, you do like the big fonts and giant pics don't cha?  Feel free to confirm with Nir that he was given access to my pics...if that's not good enough for you - oh well, I suppose my life will go merrily on whether you think I'm a fat chick or not.


Those pics could have been in a lean phase. I want to see what you look like now. It would be simple enough to do. So your excuse for not being able to post having a high profile job is busted. I have a high profile job too. I obscured my face and you could have done the same yesterday but you didn't. I will put it simply. I don't believe you. Women lie about their age and weight all the time. Your excuse didn't pass the giggle test and when I asked a couple of my friends if they thought you were telling the truth and they just laughed.

Nobody else posted a picture when challenged either. I think it bothers you that a man like me thinks you're a fat chick.

This thread has been entertaining in a twisted way, but I?óÔé¼Ôäóm over it.  It's like banging my head against a brick wall.  Fruitless and stupid - the bricks stays firmly in place (being a brick and all) and I end up with a headache.

You find banging your head against a wall entertaining? If it was entertaining it is do to my style and rapier wit. Those brick you speak of are facts and facts are very stubborn things. It is fruitless arguing when you have no way of winning. Only a fool would defend the indefensible. I'm glad you found that out.

Gotta say though, that link where you are trying to get published authors to actually take you and your ideas seriously - well, it?óÔé¼Ôäós 30 mins of my life that I?óÔé¼Ôäóll never get back - but it was so funny it was worth it?óÔé¼?ªjust unbelievable?óÔé¼?ª.and when you shared your ?óÔé¼?ôsongs?óÔé¼?Ø about obese people - OMG - priceless.   Since you don't like the quote that one guy made when referring to you, here's some more:

What link is that?

?óÔé¼?ôI think your book is having a hard time getting published because it's a?óÔé¼?ª.hate-filled diatribe rather than anything genuinely meant to help?óÔé¼?ô.

?óÔé¼?ôAlthough he professes to not have any difficulty managing his weight, he wants to be the next weight-loss guru. Again, he lacks personal experience and is willing to forgo expert opinions in order to make it happen his way?óÔé¼?Ø

?óÔé¼?ôAll evidence points to the fact that this is an individual who must build up his own self-worth by tearing others down.?óÔé¼?Ø

?óÔé¼?ôI just find it rather sad that this man has devoted so much time and energy into something that's just... Evil.?óÔé¼?Ø


OK I know what you are yammering about and that is someone else who I know and I don't think his purpose was to go to ask the advice of wanna be writers. Being that 73% of Americans are fat or obese even mention the idea that they might be gluttons is going to press a nerve with most people because most people are fat so don't feel bad you are in the majority. I love how he played them.

How many diet books are there now? Hundreds? Thousands? What has been the result? I mean how effective have they been? Is obesity going up or down? He and I both know what you are yammering about and I happen to know he co authored the book with a therapist who evaluates WLS patients.



?óÔé¼?ôOnly his solutions hold any weight. (Pardon the pun.)?óÔé¼?Ø

?óÔé¼?ôThe poster obviously is not here to learn or to share, but to spew hate.?óÔé¼?Ø

And then, the inevitable, gee didn?óÔé¼Ôäót see this coming: ?óÔé¼?ôthis poster is banned?óÔé¼?Ø

You know somebody is a professional writer when they use the term spew hate.:grin: The person who owns that site is probably fat. He/she got offended when the G word was used and could handle the truth he/she too was that G-word.

We are back to the same thing. If a person is fat they did it to themselves and they have no excuses. If they want to get lean badly enough the only person who can do it is them. If they won't do what it take then they only have themselves to blame.

Do you agree with the above paragraph?

:grin:
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 JSABD wrote: OK I know what you are yammering about and that is someone else who I know and I don't think his purpose was to go to ask the advice of wanna be writers.

Oh c'mon Chris, please stop lying here. "Balldez" is you. We all know it. You yourself gave me your e-mail address here via PM, and the account name is "ballyballdez".

What is it about you and your balls, by the way? You've posted as "Ball", "Balldez", and "Testaclese" on various forums. You're obsessed with both fat people and your own testes.
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 ItsOnlyMe wrote: Hi JSABD,

Cool pic. It shows that you really are slim.

JSABD wrote:

I proposed a tough love forum and the only people who responded were Newbies who registered today with the exception of ItsOnlyMe.

Actually, I haven't responded till now.


JSABD wrote:

What were the responses when he/I "Tell me why you can't eat less than 2000 calories a day (women) and 2500 calories a day (men)."

Did anyone give an honest answer?

Hey can you tell me why anyone can't eat less than 2000 calories a day (women) and 2500 calories a day (men). I doubt you will answer. It's a fair question. Answer it.

That's an easy question to answer. We CAN eat less than 2000/2500 calories per day! Many of us ARE eating less than 2000/2500 calories per day! That's why we are successfully losing weight. I wonder why you assume that we're all pigging out on 5000 calories a day (or whatever figure you think it is).

I know that all of you are not pigging out because there are success stories here. Most people who diet fail and they fail because they pig out. There is no other reason. If they ate in a responsible and mindful manner that would lose the weight and keep it off. Anyone with a brain knows that and anyone with shred of honesty will admit it.

Junk food doesn't make people fat. Eating it in huge amounts does.

We do admit that in most cases, we are to blame for our size, and we're now reducing that size by eating less calories, eating healthy, and following plans not so different to what you propose. Why is that such a problem?


"We" aren't. You are. You are behaving in a responsible and adult manner when it comes to food. If you continue that trend you won't ever be fat again. It is that simple.

JSABD wrote:

AIDS is a scam. I don't even think Magic Johnson has it or ever had it. In fact there is cure. It turns out that 1 in 100 caucasians are immune to HIV. It also turns out when you inject some bone marrow into people with AIDS they get well and no trace of the virus can be found. Google it. The drug companies can't make money on bone marrow.

I know that you probably have some knowledge about nutrition and exercise, and your picture proves that you know how to stay fit, and I respect you for that, but when it comes to non-weight-loss-matters, unless you are a medical expert, please don't use things you've googled as a medical authority. You know yourself, you can get all sorts of contradicting info by googling it.


It is not matter of Googling it. AIDS is curable. If someone has AIDS or HIV and they get a bone marrow transplant from a person who is immune to HIV they will be cured. The fact that people are immune to it proves that a vaccine against it is entirely possible and it may already exist. You may want to read what Joans Salk said about AIDS and immunity.


JSABD wrote:

AIDS -- don't get infected.

Do you really believe that everyone with AIDS should blame themselves? What about all the children with AIDS?
I don't blame AIDS patients. They don't deserve that disease simply for being human but people need to take responsibility for their health. AIDS is being exploited for huge profits and so is obesity. I agree that it is in the best interest of certain corporations to keep people fat just like I think it is in their best interest to keep people sick. If you expect the government to protect you you can forget it because the government is those corporations.

Visit http://www.medicalholocaust.blogspot.com

One more thing. I don't work hard at staying in shape. I workouts are 3 days a week for less than an hour. I do toning and some cardio. 99% of it is diet. Eat clean and eat for your weight. It honest to God is that simple.

Charlatans like Jillian Michaels and the other obesity exploiters are full of #%@&!. What they do to fat people is criminal and dangerous. You don't physically push people like that. You don't have to do and it is not very effective. Any trainer who injures a client should be sued and banned from training.

Personal trainers are a joke. Oprah has had ton of them and she's still fat and making excuses. No body needs a personal trainer or a nutritionist. Some people may need a dietician if they have certain health problems and all that dietician need to do is give them a list of foods they should avoid. As a dietician my advice to 99% of that people is; EAT CLEAN! I don't tell people what to eat and what not to eat. I make them figure it out on their own and then I check their work. This is one step in making the inner directed as opposed to other directed because in the end the only person you are answerable to is you and maybe God.

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 The government will NOT protect you.  I agree 100%.

 
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 Same here.
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 Do you advocate the twinkie diet with strict 2000/2500 calories a day of twinkies as opposed to fresh organic produce/lean meats?
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 JSABD wrote:

I know that all of you are not pigging out because there are success stories here.

That's good. I was starting to think that you believed ALL fat people eat too much. But as you now agree, that's not true. Maybe we used to eat too much, but some of us have stopped (and we're still fat until we reach our goals).


JSABD wrote:

I don't blame AIDS patients

Again, that's good. We're now agreeing on some things.
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 I think he mixed the two of us up IOM, I'll take that as a compliment!
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 Tankgirl wrote:

I think he mixed the two of us up IOM, I'll take that as a compliment!

Yes, I thought he might have meant you.

Don't view it as a compliment - I think I'm probably a lot heavier than you. I can see why he would mix us up. There are about five users who regularly debate with him, and I think we are the only two who agree with some of what he says, and disagree with the rest of his claims.

To JASBD: Tankgirl is a woman, and ItsOnlyMe is a man.
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 IOM I actually started out higher than you, so I've been there!

Maybe that's why we sometimes agree with him - because we've been close to border where the health problems show up.
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 Yes, probably.
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 PuffsPlus wrote: JSABD wrote: OK I know what you are yammering about and that is someone else who I know and I don't think his purpose was to go to ask the advice of wanna be writers.

Oh c'mon Chris, please stop lying here. "Balldez" is you. We all know it. You yourself gave me your e-mail address here via PM, and the account name is "ballyballdez".

What is it about you and your balls, by the way? You've posted as "Ball", "Balldez", and "Testaclese" on various forums. You're obsessed with both fat people and your own testes.

I share an Email with Balldez but who is Testaclese? BallyBalldez is use for a sign in for some of our accounts. Testaclese sounds Greek.

A lot of people made Bigger Fatter Blog the most read fat acceptance blog on the net. I will find out who he is. Do you have a link to his posts or face book?
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 TheAntiTroll wrote: Do you advocate the twinkie diet with strict 2000/2500 calories a day of twinkies as opposed to fresh organic produce/lean meats?
I advocate for people to get smart about what they eat and educate themselves and then take responsibility for their weight and their health.



Warning strong language but the guy is really funny.


Look at the sort of people who eat Twinkies and look at the ones who eat healthy food.
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 Those videos of yours never play- got a YouTube link?
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 Tankgirl wrote: Those videos of yours never play- got a YouTube link?
http://www.youtube.com/user/ReverendBurn#p/u/18/nqM7AFL4ixA
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 SmittenKitten wrote: TheAntiTroll wrote: Here is a Food For Thought:

I think you are a 50 year old fatling who lost his youth years to being fat therefore at 50 is still trolling around forums and youtube (LOL) and google image. Also you never post your pic suggesting you are still fat/obese so you should shed some tough love on yourself before you give off random predictions or label people on this forum.

You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!

As always~TheAnti Troll:pig::grin:

I agree with everything you wrote, AntiTroll, except that I understand CG Brady/JSABD/Chris Brady/Ball/Balldez/Proud Plumpette/Reverend Burn/Fat Bastard (and whatever else he's calling himself these days) is closer to 56.

But yeah, I hope your post finally shuts down this tiresome troll. :devil:
This may have been stated somewhere else in these tough love forums but if so I can't find it and I'm tired of searching.. but I think that JSABD is also the same person as BFB. Opposite views but the styles and the words used make me believe he/she is one and the same person.  Also says he's married but in neither of his supposed pics is he wearing a wedding ring. I know that not all married men wear wedding rings, just an observation.
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 MichelleP wrote: SmittenKitten wrote: TheAntiTroll wrote: Here is a Food For Thought:

I think you are a 50 year old fatling who lost his youth years to being fat therefore at 50 is still trolling around forums and youtube (LOL) and google image. Also you never post your pic suggesting you are still fat/obese so you should shed some tough love on yourself before you give off random predictions or label people on this forum.

You can prove me wrong by posting a pic with you holding a paper with "JSABD". If you can't, everything I just said is true and I will post this exact paragraph on every single one of your posts!

As always~TheAnti Troll:pig::grin:

I agree with everything you wrote, AntiTroll, except that I understand CG Brady/JSABD/Chris Brady/Ball/Balldez/Proud Plumpette/Reverend Burn/Fat Bastard (and whatever else he's calling himself these days) is closer to 56.

But yeah, I hope your post finally shuts down this tiresome troll. :devil:
This may have been stated somewhere else in these tough love forums but if so I can't find it and I'm tired of searching.. but I think that JSABD is also the same person as BFB. Opposite views but the styles and the words used make me believe he/she is one and the same person.  Also says he's married but in neither of his supposed pics is he wearing a wedding ring. I know that not all married men wear wedding rings, just an observation.
The troll/socks are SmittenKitten and the Antitroll and once they tangled with me they got pwned! They know I'm right and so do you.
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 I agree
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 you insult people. That is all you do.
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 agoldenmom wrote: you insult people. That is all you do.

How much over weight are you? Would a "golden mom" allow herself to be overweight and thus be a bad role model for her kids? Just asking.:cool:
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 agoldenmom wrote: I agree
I guess I just don't understand why IT would come here posing as a fat person (BFB) trying to get people to be happy with being fat, then later come back and pose as a thin person (with multiple names) trying to get people fit. Of course the minds of the mentally ill are not always understood. 

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 As far as I understand it, BFB is satire and Fat B***ard is the Tony Clifton to his Andy Kaufman.
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 MichelleP wrote: agoldenmom wrote: I agree
I guess I just don't understand why IT would come here posing as a fat person (BFB) trying to get people to be happy with being fat, then later come back and pose as a thin person (with multiple names) trying to get people fit. Of course the minds of the mentally ill are not always understood.
You certainly are not the sharpest cheddar. BFB was a parody. I think a visit to his blogs may be what you need.

http://biggerfatterpolitics.blogspot.com/

http://naafa.blogspot.com/

http://biggerfatterblog.blogspot.com/?zx=ad2924d600ac2269

YOU are fat and obviously being fat is a bigger payoff for you than not being fat. You eat what ever you want. You make excuses to eat what ever you want.

Nobody can get you fit but you and you don't want it. If you were serious you would not be arguing with me. You need to be asking me what to do and get off your high horse because you are breaking its back. You need to woman up and stop acting like a girl.

You won't win the argument with me because you're fat and you do everything to stay fat. You don't have a clue on how not to be fat and you don't really want to know how not to be fat so you whine about me and make accusations.

If you want to be unfat I can provide you with the tools but it is up to you to use them. You need to fess up to your gluttony and eat like a responsible adult!
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 If you only knew.....
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 So has anyone actually allowed this guy to try to help them?  Why not?
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 I know him from another site. I promised myself that if stopped losing weight for an extended period or started gaining, I might go for "the treatment" with him. That used to be motivating. Fortunately, I never needed it.

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 Bamagirly wrote: So has anyone actually allowed this guy to try to help them?  Why not?
I can send you some case histories. In fact I got an email from a person who lost 110 pounds starting in 2008. She has maintained with ease.  She drops me a line and sends me friends of hers. I am trying to convince her to coach others.

I helped her get her life back but she did it.
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 I'd rather see what kind of advice you would offer me.  Should I publicly open a new thread for my own case study?  You know, so you can show off your skills and take all the credit for turning me from a girl to a woman.
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 Bamagirly wrote: I'd rather see what kind of advice you would offer me.  Should I publicly open a new thread for my own case study?  You know, so you can show off your skills and take all the credit for turning me from a girl to a woman.
Only you can change you all I can do is give you the tools and a path to the insight you need.

If you want to open a new thread and have me work my magic for all to see that would be great.

I don't advise people. People don't take advice. If they did all I would have to tell them is this:

Eat at your BMR until you reach your ideal weight. Eat a balanced diet of wholesome foods. Keep you calories under 2000 if you are a woman and be moderately active and the most weight you will be able to maintain is 130 pounds. If you don't disagree with the last sentence take it up with Isaac Newton or a package of Fig Newtons.

If there is a reason for why you cannot do the above let's here it.

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 That's a very interesting calculation regarding women only being able to maintain 130 pounds at a caloric intake of 2,000 calories.  I've never seen that anywhere else except for here. 

At a muscular 5'9", my lean mass alone is 135 pounds, and I'm trying to increase that number to 140. 

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 Bamagirly wrote: That's a very interesting calculation regarding women only being able to maintain 130 pounds at a caloric intake of 2,000 calories.  I've never seen that anywhere else except for here. 

At a muscular 5'9", my lean mass alone is 135 pounds, and I'm trying to increase that number to 140. 

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/calories.shtml

You will find that number at the above link.

Why do you want 140 pounds of muscle mass? That's a lot. You do realize that fat bones and organs have weight?
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 POSITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT LOSING WEIGHT, EXERCISE, AND NUTRITIONAL EATING FROM PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CARE CAN BE FOUND IN THE OTHER CATEGORIES ON THESE FORUMS.  THIS "TOUGH LOVE" CATEGORY IS NOT SUPPORTED BY MOST OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS FORUM. :smile:



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 MichelleP wrote: POSITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT LOSING WEIGHT, EXERCISE, AND NUTRITIONAL EATING FROM PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CARE CAN BE FOUND IN THE OTHER CATEGORIES ON THESE FORUMS.  THIS "TOUGH LOVE" CATEGORY IS NOT SUPPORTED BY MOST OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS FORUM. :smile:




Michelle, obviously you are a control freak because you have spammed 5 threads in the TOUGH LOVE FORUM with your same lame message. You are right about one thing, there are other categories on CPH and nobody here needs you playing censor. People here can make up their own minds without a diet failure like you telling then what they should and should not read.

Obviously you cannot control your lust for junk food and that is why you are still fat but you feel the need to control something. It's really quite pathetic.

Face it Michelle, people who come to this forum will lose weight and that drives you nuts. Fat girls will come here and leave slender women. You could be among them but you refuse to lose the fattitude that made you fat and keeps you fat. You can lose weight and keep it off but you WON'T. Food means more to people like you than your loved one. Prove me wrong!

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 My lean mass is 135 pounds.  Meaning, skeleton, organs, muscle, etc.  I don't want 140 pounds of muscle alone.  Thanks for the link.  Going there to read it.
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 What I've posted only 5 times is the opinion of myself and most others on these forums. You have posted your opinions ad nauseam.


 
 
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 JSABD wrote:
Michelle, obviously you are a control freak 

 

Now that is the pot calling the kettle black!!:smile:

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 MichelleP wrote: JSABD wrote:
Michelle, obviously you are a control freak 

 

Now that is the pot calling the kettle black!!:smile:
I'm not fat you are so you would be wise to close your mouth and open your ears. I know what I am talking about and you don't because if you had a clue you would not be fat.

Nobody is forcing you to come here and the people who police these forums are Nir and the moderators not YOU! If you have the courage to go through my program start a thread. One of three things will happen if you complete it. You will lose weight and reform or you will prove my program wrong or you will lie. Either way you win.

Do you have the courage? I think not. I don't think you want to do what it taked not to be fat.
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 Plenty of people have lost weight without you and plenty more will in the future. Who are all the people you have helped get thin anyway? Did that info ever get posted and why are they not in here supporting you and your methods? Thought so! 
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 MichelleP wrote: Plenty of people have lost weight without you and plenty more will in the future. Who are all the people you have helped get thin anyway? Did that info ever get posted and why are they not in here supporting you and your methods? Thought so!
How many? Prove it.

I have helped over 100 people reform and they have helped others.

My clients expect confidentiality but I do have a few case histories and endorsements.

I received the following email a few days ago from a 2010 client. I was getting spam form her Yahoo email and I let her know. The following was what she wrote back. I get Emails and note like this all the time
 
hey, I'm sorry I didn't know, I had to have been hacked. Thank you for telling me. My weight loss is still going BUT I am down 110 pounds since Aug 27 2010. I'm definitly enjoying being smaller so to say but I still can't find pants that I like. But I can hit more notes singing and hold them longer. THANK HEAVENS! I know something silly to want to do but it was part of my goal. Thank you so much for all your guidance in my journey. I have a before pic and a somewhat after. I could send them to you if you wanna see the so far? Talk to you soon. Thank you again. Renee

--- On Sun, 8/7/11
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 "I have helped over 100 people reform"    

 You prove it!  Over 100 people hu?  Out of how many? How many people have heard your plan and dismissed it and you because of your harshness? They didn't even hear the good information that you do have because of the way you present yourself.  Wouldn't you be far more successful by changing your attitude and potentially reaching and helping thousands?

"I do have a few case histories and endorsements"   

Oh, only a few who would endorse you, imagine that. Wow now that's some impressive stuff J. 

 

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 MichelleP wrote: "I have helped over 100 people reform"    

 You prove it!  Over 100 people hu?  Out of how many? How many people have heard your plan and dismissed it and you because of your harshness? They didn't even hear the good information that you do have because of the way you present yourself.  Wouldn't you be far more successful by changing your attitude and potentially reaching and helping thousands?

"I do have a few case histories and endorsements"   

Oh, only a few who would endorse you, imagine that. Wow now that's some impressive stuff J. 

 

I get referrals all the time.

Out of 160 about 115 have completed the program successfully. Compared to a weight loss surgeon that is outstanding and non of my clients died. Some may have gotten their feelings hurt but I can tell you know they would not be nearly as patient with you as I have been. Having been infected with fattitude the find it even more distasteful than I do. They will never go back to their selfish and gluttonous ways.


Here is another thank you note that came attached to a nice gift.
Your help has been godsend. I donated my mobility scooter to Goodwill, I?óÔé¼Ôäóm off my meds and the C-PAP machine. I am 20 pounds from my goal and soon will be a size 6.

I have my life back but more than that my kids have their mother back.
Enjoy the CD

Thank you.

She lost over 80 pounds and is still losing.


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