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Peter
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Posted: 15 May 2006 06:03 am |
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As I wrote above I can't speak from experience, but Lori, I think OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl said it well.
I just asked my friend who's going to try the hoodia why? Five or six meals a day is what's commonly recommended. Further, if you eat all the right foods... fiber, the good fats in small quantities... you shouldn't be hungry!
I think the answer is that all that's easier said than done, and some people don't have the patience to stick it out while they're learning. The hoodia would be a "crutch" to help get them started.
After learning to eat and exercise properly, it wouldn't be needed.
Further, my friend says she just gets a mental boost from a supplement. And it's pretty hard to find a diet pill that's really safe.
Just my thoughts,
Peter
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Terii
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Posted: 16 May 2006 01:49 am |
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Phoebe, yes I have lost weight and I`m coming close to my target weight. Which makes me happy. But I also cut portion size and I get to exercise daily.
But again - it`s not that I didn`t exercise before Hoodia, I did. I`m taking horse-riding lessons for two years and jog occasionally, it didn`t help before.
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl
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Posted: 16 May 2006 05:14 am |
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Peter wrote:
I just asked my friend who's going to try the hoodia why? Five or six meals a day is what's commonly recommended. Further, if you eat all the right foods... fiber, the good fats in small quantities... you shouldn't be hungry!
I think the answer is that all that's easier said than done, and some people don't have the patience to stick it out while they're learning. The hoodia would be a "crutch" to help get them started.
Exactly!!! I believe it would be a great supplement to take the edge off of the first part of the diet. Especially for binge eaters. Eating the right foods do make it so you're not hungry, but Peter's right it's just not that easy, sometimes I wish I could just be full!!! Not just full but stuffed, it's a binge eater kinda thing (with me anyway). Each day I don't binge it get's easier to not to binge, but there are those days when something hits the right button and it's a real struggle. It's especially hard to get back on my diet after I've gone on a binge, I would love to be able to take something that could help me get past those moments, because I'll be the first to admit that sometimes I'm just not strong enough to say "NO".
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zenobia
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Posted: 16 May 2006 07:52 am |
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"Each day I don't binge it get's easier to not to binge, but there are those days when something hits the right button and it's a real struggle. It's especially hard to get back on my diet after I've gone on a binge, I would love to be able to take something that could help me get past those moments, because I'll be the first to admit that sometimes I'm just not strong enough to say "NO".
i have found that at times like that, hunger (and even that "stuffed" feeling (which do love)) has nothing to do with the desire to binge. if hoodia helps with appetite control that's great... but like i said, time like that have little to do with appetite-- for me anyway. yes, i am going through that "getting over a binge" thing right now and it is very hard. saying "no" is one of the most difficult things to do, and i sometimes fail... but each day gets better. i still think that it is more mental though. but, if the pills help with the mental aspect and there are no negative side effects, then by all means, go for it. i guess what i am saying is that when the desire to binge strikes, figure out why you want to binge. odds are the button is not the hunger button (or even the "stuffed" button- you could stuff yourself with spinach and carrots, but where is the fun in that??) , and can hoodia make brownies and pizza look unappealing?
i hope this doesn't sound nagative, it wasn't meant to be. lol- i almost think it is more for myself than anything, because i am tempted to try hoodia, but then i thought about why i wanted the foods that i know are not going to benefit me... that is why i am going to attempt at going right to the source- my mind.
good luck with what ever decision you make!
~Zen
Last edited on 16 May 2006 07:57 am by zenobia
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl
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Posted: 16 May 2006 10:04 am |
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Oh, I'm with you Zen, I have to go the non-hoodia way as well. I'm choosing to breastfeed my baby over a "magic" pill.
Getting back to eating is tough after a binge, sometimes I'm suprised I ever get back on my diet. Maybe I should start a topic on this... Meet me in the Eating Disorder Forum! ;)
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Phoebe
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Posted: 16 May 2006 01:57 pm |
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Terii-
Thank you for the information.
I have order a months supply through Peters Link.
I am an avid excersicer usually riding my bike 20 mile a day with a 1000ft climb. I weight around 114 lbs and am 5'2". I am not trying to lose weight, but occasionally (usually while PMS'ing) make really bad choices that I regret and would like something to help with those days inparticular.
Do you find you have enough energy to exercise when your taking the Hoodia?
Thanks again.
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Terii
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Posted: 16 May 2006 02:06 pm |
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl wrote:
Exactly!!! I believe it would be a great supplement to take the edge off of the first part of the diet. Especially for binge eaters.
That`s exactly the problem! That`s why I got onto the appetite suppressant! Just can`t bear the hunger feeling, even slight! Feeling real bad - probably it has something to do with the sugar level in my blood. Sometimes I do feel really really bad.
Hoodia does help!
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seminakedcats
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Posted: 16 May 2006 06:26 pm |
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I know what you guys mean by binging. I went off WLFI for 4 days last week and ate everything in site, hungry or not. It's a horrible feeling and you know it's mental, but can't do anything about it. I don't even want to take Hoodia on days like that because I want to eat! I'm hoping if I stay on WLFI long enough, and then switch over to the loose the fat, gain the muscle ideas (that's another of Peter's sponsored websites and it's good), then I'll have such great eating habits I won't ever want to binge again. At least not on junk.
Last night I totally fell off the wagon. I bought (and ate) marshmallows. Marshmallows! I haven't had them for years, but yesterday, I saw them in the grocery store and before I knew it I was paying for them along with my asparagus and other healthy stuff. They are not kidding when they say go around the perimeter of the store for the best food choices! The stupid marshmallows were in the same aisle as the Pam cooking spray and butter flakes that I was buying to take those items down a notch (or 20). #%@&! the marshmallow makers! They know what they are doing!  Write your congressmen.
Cheers,
Kit
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl
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Posted: 16 May 2006 10:03 pm |
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I'm getting all kinds of ideas for threads today! I argee Seminakedcats, they do know what they're doing! I read your post and got a craving! But not a bad one, besides I have nothing in the house to binge on (well except strawberries and broccoli). Everytime I see a company starting to lower their fats and sugars in food I want to give them an award! I think that's the real key to starting a healthier human being, because people will always want to buy marshmellows but if we could make them healthier it would be a start in the right direction.
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seminakedcats
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Posted: 17 May 2006 11:36 am |
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I can't be trusted.
I don't know when I gave in, or what exactly happened, all I know is that when I went to bed last night I had an old fashioned tummy ache from eating too many... yes; MARSHMALLOWS!
I was on a fruit and veggie day for the WLFI program yesterday and doing fine. I can't remember if I took any Hoodia during the day, but I did not take any before leaving work. That's the new #1 on the list. Take Hoodia prior to leaving work. This way the billions of yummy ethnic restaraunts won't be as tempting and I won't buy stupid things at the grocery store.
I CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH SUGAR!!!!!! HOODIA Take me away!!!!!
Kit
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Terii
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Posted: 21 May 2006 11:45 am |
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Yeah, that`s one thing you have to take in time to stop all the shops and cafes arund from tempting you! :chew:
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yuna
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Posted: 22 May 2006 08:31 pm |
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seminakedcats wrote: I know what you guys mean by binging. I went off WLFI for 4 days last week and ate everything in site, hungry or not. It's a horrible feeling and you know it's mental, but can't do anything about it. I don't even want to take Hoodia on days like that because I want to eat! I'm hoping if I stay on WLFI long enough, and then switch over to the loose the fat, gain the muscle ideas (that's another of Peter's sponsored websites and it's good), then I'll have such great eating habits I won't ever want to binge again. At least not on junk.
Last night I totally fell off the wagon. I bought (and ate) marshmallows. Marshmallows! I haven't had them for years, but yesterday, I saw them in the grocery store and before I knew it I was paying for them along with my asparagus and other healthy stuff. They are not kidding when they say go around the perimeter of the store for the best food choices! The stupid marshmallows were in the same aisle as the Pam cooking spray and butter flakes that I was buying to take those items down a notch (or 20). #%@&! the marshmallow makers! They know what they are doing! Write your congressmen.
Cheers,
Kit
Don'y feel too bad Kit. Marshmellows don't have that much calories or fat. so you didn't really affect weight loss i think. keep up the good work. :)
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl
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Posted: 23 May 2006 04:33 am |
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| That would be nice, to take something when I know I'd be tempted, to help take the edge off. I hate having to drag myself away from food, half the time I can't! When faced with sweets or bad stuff I'd love to just turn my nose up and not be tempted at all. I know if I had that "full" feeling I wouldn't be half as tempted.
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Terii
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Posted: 24 May 2006 03:27 pm |
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Yes, that`s exactly what I mean!
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Terii
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Posted: 27 May 2006 05:02 pm |
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Surely I have enough energy when I take Hoodia!
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yohkos
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Posted: 1 Jun 2006 06:53 pm |
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I bought 3 bottles of the Hoodia SA complex and I don't see any difference. Are you sure these are the real thing?
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl
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Posted: 2 Jun 2006 09:14 am |
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yohkos wrote: I bought 3 bottles of the Hoodia SA complex and I don't see any difference. Are you sure these are the real thing?
Is that the brand offered on this site? I'm sure if it is that there is a money back guarantee. There's a real problem with fake hoodia right now, so make sure you are buying from a trusted site or company before you purchase.
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Fitness Coach
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Posted: 4 Jun 2006 11:01 pm |
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| I believe hoodia works very well for weight loss as it controled my hunger and I felt like I was full all day long. Limiting hunger cravings has never been easier with hoodia. Give it a try.
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iowagal
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Posted: 5 Jun 2006 02:34 am |
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I bought one bottle of the Hoodie SA Complex and I was determined to keep an open mind about this stuff. I was not expecting magic, but I was at least going to give it a try to get a jump start....AGAIN...on weight loss this summer. I have been sedentary for many months due to surgeries, and I am just now able to get back on my bicycle. Last summer I was riding about 60 miles a week. I am only up to 10 so far. So getting the exercise has not been a problem, and it has been easy to slip back into that routine. However, all these months when I was too weak and still healing, I was eating anything that didn't move. I have regained about 25 pounds since last fall. Since I began taking the hoodia, I have noticed a marked difference in my appetite. Anything that will help me not binge needlessly is a big help for me right now. Funny thing though, I take the hoodia an hour or so before meals with a big glass of water and I have noticed that it DOES take away my hunger. There were a few days last week where I was busy and I worked right through lunch....but I did not feel "mouth hungry"...and even my brain was telling me that I was not hungry....and I WASN'T. However, my stomach was growling and telling me it was time to eat. Has anyone else had this happen where the brain says "no thanks" but your stomach is reminding you that it is time to feed it? I have decided that if this hoodia will help me gain control until I can get back to feeling "in control" of my eating, then it is worth every dime I have to spend for it. I hope this helps any of you out there who is thinking of trying it. For me....it is working...down 9 pounds so far and I have been taking it for 2 weeks.
iowagal
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pipermac
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Posted: 5 Jun 2006 08:19 pm |
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If the stuff is real you may have to take more. I have read that the recommended dose is often not enough to make a difference for many people.
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yohkos
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Posted: 5 Jun 2006 08:42 pm |
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| You might be right. I will try to take more tomorrow and see if it works. I sure hope so.
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sogog3
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Posted: 16 Jun 2006 11:13 pm |
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| I went to Good Earth Vitamin Store and bought some Hoodia Supreme. I read on a site that to get the real thing, you should go to a store. This one has a money back guarantee and also one capsule has 400 mg. of hoodia gordonii. The first day that I took it, I kind of felt dizzy but it passed. I attributed the dizziness to the fact that it was 1:00 p.m. and I hadn't had breakfast yet. When I got home, I ate about 15 peanuts in their shells and about 5 bites of hash browns and about 6 small bites of a chicken fried steak. I was sooo full. For me, this was great. I had nothing else all day till dinner time when I had a fish sandwich and about 16 fries from McDonalds. For me, this is odd because I have a HUGE appetite!! Today I had 1 egg, 2 sausages (small) and 2 pieces of french toast. It's 4:00 and I'm still not hungry, have no cravings and feel great. I will keep taking this to see if I can lose some weight cause I've really let myself go.
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moonymoony
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Posted: 17 Jun 2006 02:25 am |
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Ok after I wasted my money on desert hoodia.. one week and no effect and I don't believe that it should take 2 weeks to take effect it is a claim by the companies that just want to sell their saw dust filled capsules and perhaps powdered milk.. yes I opened a capsule of this desert burn and found that it tasted a lot like powdered milk.. it did not give me the stomach problems it gave a writer who complained about it earlier I guess because I was not sensitive to the probably powdered milk filled capsules combined with G knows what..
I bought Hoodia Hoodia as recommended by Peter.. It has not arrived yet. I hope that works..
It looks like the brand you bought is a legitimate one what is the name of the manufacturer on the bottle ?
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Posted: 17 Jun 2006 06:30 am |
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| Natures Benefit Inc./Syndrome X Inc.
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Phoebe
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Posted: 17 Jun 2006 01:20 pm |
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Hey-
I ordered Hoodia Super Slim (from hoodia-advice.org) in 400mg tablets. I took the whole bottle and not once experienced the appetite suppressant effect. They claim they have a 100% money back guarantee, but haven't responded to my e-mail asking how to go about returning the bottle for my money back.
I don't have an overactive appetite, I am 5'2" and weight about 114 lbs. I exercise 1 1/2 hours every day (biking) but for me, the hope that something would help to suppress my appetite was too good to be true.
Last edited on 17 Jun 2006 01:21 pm by Phoebe
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moonymoony
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Posted: 18 Jun 2006 08:16 pm |
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Thank you sogog 3:
I checked GNC they carry the hoodia supreme. You are absoloutly right! You have to buy from a store that honors returns. Enough money wasted, on the fake hoodia stuff. I will go buy it from them today. They also carry H75 Hoodia which is a waste of time and money. I wasted too much money already..
Nauture's benefit is a decent brand, they make other herbs that are decent.
Phoebe this is what happened to me with desert burn Hoodia.. I did not read the fine print.. you can return the "unopened "bottles only.. that was on the website. And they stopped taking credit cards .. I wonder why?
Sogog3 does it still work good for you? No down mood or irriability? sorry I ask too many questions.. It is just that so much stuff gave me hard times and I get hit really hard if they affect the mood.. Keep us posted!
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Peter
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Posted: 19 Jun 2006 05:18 am |
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sogog3, I can't agree with the concept that you should go to a store. In fact as moonymoony points out, GNC sells both good stuff and bad. And why would they sell more than one product, anyway? Why not just the best?
Wherever you buy hoodia, what is important is that the product is tested for actual content of hoodia. That's why I chose the company that I advertise.
Phoebe, our bodies are all so different no product will work for everyone. I don't know why you didn't get a reply to your e-mail about returning your purchase, but I will contact them and let them know about your post. They will honor your request.
Lastly -- and I'm not an expert on hoodia myself -- when I saw the 60 Minutes show the hoodia they ate had an almost immediate effect. I understand that that's what happens when you take a bit of the actual cactus. But taking smaller doses in tablets takes longer, and that's why you hear the figure of two weeks.
I don't think they would say it takes two weeks just to get you to use more pills because you buy a bottle which is a month's supply anyway. And after using the whole bottle if it doesn't work you can just return the bottle.
Peter
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hoodiaadvice2
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Posted: 20 Jun 2006 07:11 pm |
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Phoebe wrote: Hey-
I ordered Hoodia Super Slim (from hoodia-advice.org) in 400mg tablets. I took the whole bottle and not once experienced the appetite suppressant effect. They claim they have a 100% money back guarantee, but haven't responded to my e-mail asking how to go about returning the bottle for my money back.
Hi All,
Let me start with a clear disclaimer - I work for the company Phoebe mentions in her post. We have been watching this forum with great interest but try not to post as some would see it as self serving or commercial.
Phoebe - can you please call us at 1-877-660-9032 so we can make sure you get an immediate refund. We do reply to all emails, but if you have not heard from us it may mean the email was blocked (does happen in the world of Hoodia). We just need to know your full name so we can issue an immediate refund.
Why didn't the Hoodia work for Phoebe? Who knows?? The truth is that every supplement (and ever pharmaceutical) has a non-respondent rate. It is very dishonest for anyone selling Hoodia to claim it has a 100% success rate. In fact, we even know of a few Bushmen who do not see a reduction in appetite when they chew on the actual Hoodia Gordonii plant..
What is the non-respondent rate when dealing with pure Hoodia Gordonii? Our best guess is around 5%. Sorry Phoebe, looks like you are one of the unlucky ones!
While no one can guarantee Hoodia will work 100% of the time - we do guarantee to refund your money after you have tried a whole bottle. Just contact us Phoebe and I will make sure it is taken care of.
I will avoid making any recommendations on these forums. Peter does excellent job of keeping things informational and we respect that. All I will say is that if you want to try Hoodia make sure you start with a product that has been independently lab tested and verfied to be Hoodia Gordonii. If you do try real Hoodia, odds are in your favor it will help with appetite supression. Is Hoodia a magic bullet - no! Everyone hear is smart enough to know there are no magic bullets. Hoodia is an excellent tool and everyone should make their own judgement on how it works for them.
Thanks,
Dan
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Phoebe
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Posted: 20 Jun 2006 08:10 pm |
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WOW, thank you for your response. It is totally exceptional for you to make yourself as transparent as you are. I did receive a response from your company this morning including all of the information that I need inorder to receive my refund. I too am sorry that this product didn't work for me.
Peter, thank you as well for being particular about the products that you represent.
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Youlka
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Posted: 28 Jun 2006 05:11 pm |
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WOW! I did know, or guessed that there must be some people who would not feel any effect (it`s true with any medicine, isn`t it? I knew a guy who wasn`t affected with drugs at all! He quit smoking in a second and painkillers didn`t work on him either when he had a surgery, which was a nuisance!) but I never knew the situation is studied! Amazing!
Thanks for the info! By the way, Hoodia worked on me fine!
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Rosie Real
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Posted: 13 Jul 2006 04:51 am |
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Over the past 2 years, I have lost 70 pounds by working out for 2-3 hours per day and modifying my eating habits to eat more nutritiously and keep the portion sizes small. In the past 9 months, I have been trying to lose that last 10-15 pounds and no amount of exercise or eating nutritiously seems to help. I figured the only thing that I have not tried was to reduce my calorie intake. After reading the posts on this website, I looked into the Hoodia website that Peter suggested and ordered a bottle. I got impatient waiting for the Hoodia to arrive as it took 2 weeks. So in the meantime, I bought a bottle of Hoodia from Costco that had 150 tablets with 500mg per tablet. The Hoodia from Costco seem to cut the edge off my hunger but I still had some cravings. It was a struggle but I lost a couple pounds. Well, today I received the Hoodia from the website Peter recommended. The bottles had 60 tablets of 800mg per tablet. I thought I'd try one tonight after working out. The last meal that I ate was a small bowl of cereal at 4pm. I worked out and on my way home I took a Hoodia at 7:30pm. By the time I got home, 10 minutes later, I could not believe that I was full. About an hour later, I ate a small meal and feel absolutely stuffed and have no desires to eat any more or sneak a piece of candy. I hope this lasts as I think it will solve my problem with this remaining weight. I just wanted to mention the difference between the two Hoodia brands. I order the brand Hoodia Hoodia from the website Peter suggested.
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I was also impatient to wait for my order to arrive from Hoodia Hoodia, bought the Hoodia supreme, didn't work, and the Vitamin shop brand 500 mg ..did not work, and before them the H57 and the desert burn.. all were a waste of money. This one seemed to take the edge off, but I still have trouble controlling my huge appetite. I tried the trimspa x32, it worked great for few days then it wore off.. not for the energy boost though.. as it did help a lot with that so I get better workouts.
I have to say I continue to struggle finding something that works for my appetite as well as ephedra containing supplements did. It is by far the best thing that worked for me. I had a nasty 10 to 12 lbs to loose since I joined the forum, which has grown to 15 lbs now and counting. I work out now every other day for about 45 min aerobic and weights. I am not a drinker, and fatty foods are not really my thing it is the carbs and the only thing I have been loosing is my money on all the non effective products out there. That ephedra helped me 2 years ago in taking off the stubborn last 15 lbs and I was doing well.
So I used one of the imitation to Xenadrine RF1 ( maxadrine)( the brand that worked for me before) and added it to the Hoodia Hoodia this way I minimize the side effects of the caffeine and the heart burn I get from the full dose of the Maxadrine.. And It really worked!! I have had it and I am going for the ephedra. Use as recommended and I am buying the ones without the caffeine and aspirin stuff as the heart burn and jitters were my side effects on ephedra.. which I did not care for as long as I was loosing weight. I 'll use it as directed and it should be better than this fat on my belly and thighs. Yes, and at least when I jog I won't wheeze again.
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Posted: 22 Jul 2006 02:26 pm |
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| I`ve heard Pure Hoodia plus is the stuff that helps a bunch!
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Posted: 6 Sep 2006 12:19 pm |
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Hi Terri;
I have just signed up to this forum wanting to know more on this Hoodia capsules thing! I'm in the UK and have' googled' for it and looks like I can order here (very expensive though)
My cravings are in the morning when I get to work so around 9am I am starving!!!
I currently just drink a tea though, then come about 10:30/11am I start to crave and have a snack like crisp or chocolcate or go on my cigarette break.
Around 2pm is my lunch hour.
For months I have brought with me my mums home cooking (chicken and rice most of the times) but that has changed and so back to sandwiches!!!
anyways in terms of the hours in the day whilst I am at work, how would you recommend me taking these tablets.
I don't want to stop eating completely.
Although SOMETIMES when I'm at home, i get too LAZY to eat my dinner, but then I've always been like this, but recently i've become more and more hungry when I get home at 6pm and thats when I eat.
Every since I've been with my boyfriend, we go Burgery King or MAcy D's or KFC but not all the time, lets just say i'm starting to get sick of eating just burger and chips and drinking fizzy drinks etc.....
I am about 120lbs (about 55kg or 8.5 stones), I am petitie 5ft 3ins.,
I used to work at GAP and used to fit into a US 2 jeans but now im a 4!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a small bluging belly when I wear my jeans, and I so want to lost this, along with my thunder thighs and calfs (which is by the way bigger than my boyfriends' - how embarrassing) !!!!!!!!
Please Terri or anyone else help me or advise me on these Hoodia tablets. and do they ALL work in the same way,
and which one would you recommend to me,,,,,
look forward to hearing your response (s)
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Posted: 6 Sep 2006 12:32 pm |
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Hi ALL;
I am in the UK when I google for Hoodia majority of the results to buy from the UK is Hoodia Gordonii 700mg are these still the same.
are there any UK members to suggest to me how much and where to buy in the UK
thanks
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Peter
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Posted: 6 Sep 2006 02:41 pm |
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If you are going to use hoodia the important thing is that you know that the product you are buying really contains... hoodia!
Start by learning something about it by clicking on the blue "thelegacywebsite Recommends" banner below.
I don't know about the product in the UK but I'll see if I can get someone to post a reply.
Peter
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hoodiaadvice2
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Posted: 6 Sep 2006 04:57 pm |
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Hi,
I work for the company that sells the Hoodia product that Peter recommends. Peter asked me to address Bubbe2005 and her desire to find a pure Hoodia product in the UK.
We do ship to the UK - Air Mail shipping is $15 USD and takes about 1-2 weeks - so ordering from us is an option.
If you do decide to find a quality Hoodia product locally, I strongly recommend that you only buy from a company that has done lab testing on the product. Unfortunately, fake or cut Hoodia continues to be a HUGE problem in this industry. To ensure you are getting pure Hoodia Gordonii from South Africa we recommend you ask to see the 3 Alkemists Lab Tests that can be done to check for purity. If the company will not produce these lab tests, or the lab tests are not positive - do not buy from them. If you are interested in learning more about the testing - we have several articles on our site.
Hope this helps,
Dan
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bubbe2005
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Posted: 8 Sep 2006 09:20 am |
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Hi Dan/Peter;
I ordered
Hoodia Gordonii Tablets 700mg one month supply (100 tablets)
GBP 19.00 from
LifestyleLifestyle.com
AND
1 x Dex-L10 - Certified Gold Hoodia Gordonii (fat149) = ?é?ú19.99 from
astronutrition.com
Could I ask, Am i allowed to mix.,
I feel its all about trail and error, how will I know if one is working and the other is not.
Could I ask if one of you could check what I have ordered please?
and Dan/Peter;
Do I really ahve the right to
"ask for the 3 Alkemists Lab Tests that can be done to check for purity"
???
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jillybean720
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Posted: 8 Sep 2006 02:22 pm |
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bubbe2005 wrote: Do I really ahve the right to
"ask for the 3 Alkemists Lab Tests that can be done to check for purity"
???
Not just for Hoodia specifically, but any consumer absolutely has the right to ask for proof that what they are purchasing and spending their hard-earned money on is, in fact, what is being advertised. If they are advertising their product to contain a certain amount of actual Hoodia, then they should have the tests/documentation to back it up. Otherwise, how would you ever know if you're getting ripped off?
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hoodiaadvice2
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Posted: 8 Sep 2006 04:20 pm |
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bubbe2005 wrote: Hi Dan/Peter;
I ordered
Hoodia Gordonii Tablets 700mg one month supply (100 tablets)
GBP 19.00 from
LifestyleLifestyle.com
AND
1 x Dex-L10 - Certified Gold Hoodia Gordonii (fat149) = ?é?ú19.99 from
astronutrition.com
Hi, Sorry, have not tested the Lifestyle product - can't comment much on that. The Dex-L10 is an interesting one. They have some good press and a decent little study they did with their product. However, I think they may be having some problems now. We asked them for Alkemists lab tests and they never replied. On their site they do not show the Alkemists lab tests. I have seen a competitor's site post a failing Alkemists lab test for Dex-L10. Can't swear it is all legitimate, but it gave us reason to be concerned and not sell it. and Dan/Peter;
Do I really ahve the right to
"ask for the 3 Alkemists Lab Tests that can be done to check for purity"
???
Yes and Yes! They of course have the right to say No! And then you have the right to shop elsewhere!
-Dan
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bubbe2005
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Posted: 9 Sep 2006 09:04 am |
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hi Dan;
thanks for you reply.
upon confirmation of my DEX L10 I emailed astronutrition to ask to see their lab testing certificates and here is their reply
"Hi and thanks for your email. There are a lot of hoodia products available on the market and some are indeed better than others. Though I have not heard of any scams involving hoodia, I'm sure it does exist.Here is the clinical study as reported by Del Mar Labs, makers of Hoodia Dex-L10. There is also a certificate of origin in every box confirming that Dex-L10 uses 100% South African Hoodia Godonii. Hope this helps.June 21, 2004
Dr. Richard M. Goldfarb Medical Director of a Philadelphia Clinical research facility has just completed a study on weight loss using the DEX-L10 Hoodia Gordonii in Lafayette Louisiana. The testing, which was completed using a milled powdered form of the South African Hoodia plant, confirms that Hoodia Gordonii suppresses the appetite. The first in this series of clinical studies showed that by ingesting Hoodia DEX-L10 one hour before meals, appetite was stifled significantly.
July 25, 2004
Hoodia Gordonii (DEX-L10 Certified) an Appetite Suppressant: Positive Effect on Weight Loss - A Case Study Report of 7 Participants Richard M. Goldfarb, M.D. FACS, David J. Miller, D.O. FAAP
BACKGROUND:Obesity is the #1 health concern in the USA. Obesity is responsible for multiple physical and mental conditions. Hoodia Gordonii is a succulent plant that grows throughout the semi-arid areas of Southern Africa primarily in the Kalahari Desert. The San people have traditionally used Hoodia stems to stave off hunger when they set out on long journeys for food to be brought back to their families. The Hoodia acts as an appetite suppressant. Hoodia Gordonii contains no stimulants. Hoodia Gordonii, like most natural products, can vary from lot to lot in raw materials. The only way to standardize the pure form from the Kalahari Desert is by certification.
A certification standard labeled DEX-L10 is utilized. Materials meeting this standard are rigorously inspected and tested to insure their origin and species. The South African government harvesting permits, microscopic, macroscopic liquid thin layer chromatography from known specimens to identify and categorize materials utilizing the branding of the DEX-L10 seal. Hoodia Gordonii works within the satiety center of the brain by releasing a chemical compound similar to glucose but up to 100 times stronger. The Hypothalamus receives this signal as an indication that enough food has been consumed and this in turn decreases the appetite.
STUDY DESIGN:Seven (7) participants where categorized as overweight. Overweight is defined as a BMI of 25 or more. A BMI of 30-39 is considered obesity and a BMI of 40 or greater is considered severely obese. The requirements of each participant where as follows: * Each participant was required to eat a balanced breakfast with a multivitamin supplement in the AM. * Each participant was required to take 2 Hoodia Gordonii DEX-L10 capsules daily.The first capsule, 1-hour prior to lunchtime with 8 ounces of water and the second capsule 1 hour prior to dinner with a minimum of 8 ounces of water. * Each participant was required to have their weight recorded on days 0, 7, 14, and 28. The product has not been shown to interact with any other medications being taken. No major side effects have been reported. No other weight loss products were taken during the 28-day study. Each participant was instructed not to alter his or her dietary habits. All participants utilized One (1) Detecto scale. Each weight was checked by Dr. Goldfarb to ensure quality control and accuracy. All weights were entered at the time of weigh in.
RESULTS:Compliance of the participants was excellent. All patients did not alter their dietary habits and/or their daily activity during the 28-day study.
* Average deviation 0.8% from average body weight loss. This shows very little variation.* On average the body weight loss is 3.3%.* Median is 10 pounds of weight loss over the 28-day study.
CONCLUSION:This study clearly demonstrates that the median weight loss over 28 days is 10 pounds. This weight loss is considered a healthy weight loss. A majority of participants interviewed stated that their caloric intake decreased to less than half in only a few days of being on the Hoodia Gordonii DEX-L10 product.
No side effects such as nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, jitteriness, or change in sleep habits were reported. The benefit of Hoodia Gordonii DEX-L10 justifies its daily use as part of a weight loss regimen and in the fight against obesity. .
Author contributions Study conception and design: Richard M. Goldfarb, M.D. FACS Analysis and interpretation of data: Richard M, Goldfarb, M.D. FACS Critical revision: David J. Miller, D.O. FAAP Supervision: David J. Miller, D.O. FAAP Regards,Chester Ku-..."
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hoodiaadvice2
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Posted: 11 Sep 2006 09:02 pm |
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Hi Bubbe2005,
Well, I don't want to use this forum to knock any company, I would simply ask this question... You asked to see "lab testing certificates" for their Hoodia - did they produce it? We do not consider a country of origin certificate the same as 3 independent lab tests.
-Dan
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natalee
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Posted: 17 Oct 2006 03:36 pm |
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heyy just wondering if the certificates these sellers put on their listings mean that it is 100% hoodia? thanks for anyones advice
dont really know anything about it so dont want to waste my money on rubbish!! thanks xx
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rajju077
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Posted: 13 Nov 2006 11:40 pm |
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hmm could i butt in to make a small point? it might sound stupid, or nonsensical, but one day one of my friends remarked about it, and i had to post it here.
Why do we spend hundreds of dollars to lose weight? ok cause we cant stop binging. so we are actually spending money on the food we binge, then we spend MORE money on pills or other stuff to get us out of the predicament. Rather it should be, you just dont eat much, or diet, so you save money both ways! i know its easier said than done, but unless you try, you are never going to be able to do it. But self control will work, plus it wont burn a hole in your pocket.
* this post isnt meant for people suffering from major eating disorders, or hormonal disorders.
Last edited on 13 Nov 2006 11:41 pm by rajju077
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happy143
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Posted: 13 Nov 2006 11:50 pm |
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This website has some great info about Hoodia. I have been trying to get as much information as I can on Hoodia before I buy it, and this article was a great eye opener.
newstarget.com/006016.html
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Peter
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Posted: 16 Nov 2006 06:31 am |
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rajju077,
That's what this website is all about. Common sense healthy eating and exercise. However, you say "just don't eat much" and some people find that impossible. Among diet pills, Hoodia is the exception. It does nothing but help suppress your appetite.
happy143,
Yes, there are plenty of companies selling fake or poor quality hoodia. That's why we recommend a company that tests all the product it sells. See our Weight Loss Products page.
Peter
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cath1024
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Posted: 10 Oct 2007 03:11 am |
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Hi there,
Not sure if anyone (Peter) still replies to or even reads this thread since im opening it up after the last post was Nov 2006 
I have just read thru this thread and I am convinced that i can get the real deal on the Hoodia Hoodia.
I have read so much and have seen so many different types claiming to be the real thing but so far nothing has convinced me until i found this site ... I am still not totally convinced but am willing to give it a try!
I was just curious as to why the high ship cost to Canada being 19.05?
Sounds pretty steep for 1 or 2 bottles of Hoodia Hoodia?
I was also wondering if there will be any problems bring it into Canada? I have read in a few places that customs confiscates (spelling wrong) the product?
Also is there extra duty and taxes that will be applied if it does get thru customs? I know alot of sellers will lower the value on the lable or mark as gift to avoid added taxes.
If you could let me know some of this information I will go from there on whether to order some or not.
Thanks and hopefully this thread still gets read
Cathy from Canada
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Peter
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Posted: 16 Oct 2007 12:07 am |
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Cathy,
I'm sure you can get answers from their customer service dept. Let me now if you have any problems and I'll put you in touch with the owner directly.
Use this link then click on the Contact link.
Peter
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cath1024
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Posted: 16 Oct 2007 12:23 am |
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Hi Peter,
I ended up getting some here at a local natural health store ... the product I got was called Hoodia Hoodia by Millineum health. They are 400mg each capsule ... the bottle said to take 2 a day once in the am and once before dinner.
I started them on Thurs taking the recommended dose of 2 a day but i didnt feel any different and it didnt supress my hunger at all.
I stayed on this dose for 3days and yesterday i took 2 in the am and 2 before dinner and i still dont notice anything different 
Do you think maybe these are just not going to work for me and maybe i need a different brand?
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Peter
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Posted: 16 Oct 2007 12:33 am |
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I think the figure is that they work for about 95% of people. I recommend the brand I do because:
1. They test each batch they buy before re-selling it.
2. They offer a refund if it doesn't work for you.
Hopefully your store will give you a refund. But be sure you aren't looking for any miracles. They should simply help you feel less hungry... which I guess you said they weren't doing for you.
Peter
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