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justlisa
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Posted: 12 Mar 2008 01:48 pm |
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 Has anyone else experienced the HCG weight loss program and had great results? I had been on the 6 weeks of injections and lost 36 pounds! Im going back on for 3 weeks to lose my last 20 pounds. I had such success with the HCg and the clinic I worked with the program with, that I just have to do it again. I didnt pay a lot and found it to be safe and effective. I am a skeptic, and I can say that this really worked for me. I look and feel great. 
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Posted: 18 Mar 2008 12:34 am |
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Keep us posted!
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Posted: 28 Mar 2008 10:43 pm |
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I am curious....what was your starting weight before the HCG, your current, and your goal weight? YOu were very successful...congrats!
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katiepen
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Posted: 6 Jun 2008 11:23 am |
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| I've been on the shots for 19 days and I've lost 18 pounds. I feel great and the only time that I get hungry is when it's time to eat. My starting weight was 170, I now weigh 152 and I have 3 more weeks on the shots. My goal weight is 130. I twisted my ankle right before I started the shots so I have been unable to exercise so it's great to know that this still works. I think that I will be able to start exercising at least a little next week and that should help my weight loss even more.
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danamichael
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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 12:32 am |
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| where can you get it??? i live in philadelphia. how much???? sign me up
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katiepen
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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 11:33 am |
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| There are several places that you can get it. There are mail order companies that will order blood tests, prescribe the hcg and send you everything that you need for self injecting. About mid level in price. There are clinics that you can go to and go through a doctor, this is the most expensive route. Or there are overseas companies that are the cheapest but you have to get your own needles and mixing water. I have used the 1st and the latter method and they both worked well, it just depends on what you are comfortable with. Do a search for hcg forums, there are a ton of them and there are a lot of places recommended on them. Good Luck!
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tinkerbell
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Posted: 19 Jun 2008 01:07 am |
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 I've been reading various resources for HCG and have a few questions for anyone that wouldn't mind answering. Lisa, you said you didn't pay much, do you mind giving an estimate of what it cost and for how long. Was the clinic local and did you go to get your shots each day? I'm trying to get an idea of cost so that it I will have an idea if the prices quoted are within a reasonable range. I live in Central Florida.
The info I've read says to eat only organic foods. Did everyone do that? If not how did it work for you? How long after starting did you get more energy? Is there anything that you found difficult? easy?
The cllinic I found on the internet will do everything by mail. I will have 5 refills left after the first round. I have to wait 6 weeks between the first application and the 2nd, then 7 weeks between 2nd & 3rd application. Has anyone found a way to varify a clinic is reputable?
This there anyone who has done this program and gained their weight back? or part of it?
Do I sound confused? Nervous? I am!!!!
It's great to hear that so many of you are doing great on this program. Congrats and keep it up.
Cheers
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katiepen
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Posted: 19 Jun 2008 11:33 am |
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Hi Tinkerbell
The cost varies by which method you choose. If you use an overseas pharmacy, which I did this time and it worked out fine, it costs less then $100 but you have to obtain your own needles and mixing water. The first time that I did this I used a pharmacy in Florida that orders blood tests, prescribes the hcg and then sends you everything that you need. The blood test was the most expensive part, about $400 and I think that altogether it cost about $650 for 1 round and $250 for the next, give or take. I know that a clinic costs a lot more and sounds very inconvienient when self injecting is so easy.
As for organics I believe that it is a very important part, not only for this diet but for a lifestyle change. Our food supply is tainted with chemicals and GMO's that affect our bodies and is part of the obesity problem. This diet is designed to reset the hypothymus to function properly but if you consume pesticides and chemicals it will just stop functioning properly again and you will be back where you started. Have you read Kevin Trudeau's book? I know that at first organics seem a lot more expensive but how much have we spent on diets and how much is our health worth? And not only that, they taste so much better, once you switch you will never want to switch back. Eat a conventional peach next to an organic one and you will see what I mean. I think that we've all forgotten what good food tastes like.
Yes, I did this diet last year and I gained the weight back. I didn't finish phase 3. My friends did this diet right after me last year and they finished phase 3 and follow the principles in phase 4 and they have maintained their weight loss for over 1 year. This time I have lost 21 pounds and I will be finishing phase 3 and living in phase 4. The moral of this story is it works but you have to complete it and it does require a lifestyle change if we want to keep the weight off. We can't go back to eating chemicals, processed foods, and fast food.
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tinkerbell
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Posted: 19 Jun 2008 01:37 pm |
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Thank you katiepen.  That was helpful. What was the name of the clinic in Florida that you used. I've been looking at GHI in Clearwater. If you used them how was there service. Were they avaliable for questions? ect.
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katiepen
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Posted: 20 Jun 2008 11:41 am |
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steelerslover
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Posted: 28 Jun 2008 10:02 pm |
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| Just out of curiosity, what was the daily dosage you took? I read somewhere 5000mg, that seems excessive.
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katiepen
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Posted: 30 Jun 2008 12:29 pm |
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| Oh no, you will gain weight on that. 175-250iu daily is recommended, never more then that.
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steelerslover
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Posted: 30 Jun 2008 06:39 pm |
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Thanks, yeah, that sounded like a lot. I think whatever I read said 5000/wk, but that is still to much.
Thanks for your help!
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Posted: 18 Jul 2008 10:53 pm |
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Did you find a HCG source in Philadelphia? I am in the area also.
Kay
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Darlene5
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Posted: 19 Jul 2008 03:07 pm |
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I'm on the third day of injections, and because I felt starving this morning I decided maybe I needed one more loading day. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... I know that sounds so rediculous, but I really didnt load up very well the first two days so Im thinking maybe thats why I was so hungry this morning. So I'll start the 500 calorie diet tomorrow for sure! I've got to be honest here, Im feeling a bit like the whole diet is a huge scam. I'll give it my best shot and if it works, I'll be completely shocked!
These injections are also making me feel VERY TIRED. I havent even started the low calorie diet yet, these shots have been making me tired during the loading days. So I just dont get that. This happen to anyone else? It's like I've taken 3 benadryl!
Darlene5
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katiepen
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Posted: 21 Jul 2008 11:34 am |
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Hi Darlene
This works, give it a fair chance and you will see. But if you don't follow it exactly and you cheat just a little it won't work. The first few days is the hardest with the hunger just hang in there I promise it will get better. When you start to see the pounds fall off it will help keep you motivated. After the first week I was full of evergy and not hungry at all unless it was mealtime.
Also for the fatigue drink a lot of tea with stevia, especially yerba mate. I could not get through this protocol without a lot of tea. It helps with hunger and energy. Good Luck!
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Darlene5
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Posted: 21 Jul 2008 08:57 pm |
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Thanks Katiepen for your response. Are you on the diet right now? I cant drink Caffeine. Even just one sip gives me what I think is anxiety symptoms. (mostly not being able to breath) Sucks. If I could drink coffee like I used to I'd probably not be over weight right now. : ) Anyway I some how got through my first starvation day yesterday. I dont know how I did it, it was so hard. I was absolutely starving! I went to bed early with a sleeping pill. Today is the same. Not any better. I'm starving. I have not cheated at all yet. I do either chicken or veal (100g) a salad of lettuce, cabbage, and cucumber (1cup) with vinagar, and an apple or some strawberry's (no more than a cup). And a ton of water with lemon. I dont know how long I can stick to this. I lost three pounds in one day, thats great and all, but if I'm starving like this the whole time its just not going to work. And its as if the food I"m eating makes me even hungrier. I'm shooting for one week right now. If I'm still just as starving after one week then I'm quiting. I think I'll know if its a scam or not by then. Im so shocked to have read that so many people liked this diet! and that it worked for them.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. : )
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katiepen
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Posted: 22 Jul 2008 12:21 pm |
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Hi Darlene
Have you tried yerba mate. A lot of people that have trouble with caffeine do not have a problem with yerba mate. Check out their web site, they even say that they only use the word caffeine for lack of a better word, it is a different form of energy and it has been used for centuries. Yerba Mate helps me so much with the hunger, maybe it could work for you. If you can't tolerate yerba mate then try decaffeinated teas with stevia, rooibos tea is really yummy and you can get decaf. green teas as well. Stevia helps balance the blood sugar and I think that this helps a lot with the hunger.
The hunger will get better, have faith. Of course you can't get through this if you're feeling starving. If it is not getting better in a couple days we need to look at possible causes. What dosage of hcg are you using? I've definately noticed on hcg forums that people on lower doses of hcg have more problems with hunger. Also have you tried spreading out your food like having your fruit at different times then your meal. I was eating my apple at 10:00. This helped me not get too hungry before my lunch. Also I was putting cinnamon on my apple. Cinnamon also helps balance the blood sugar. I was also generous with my vegetables especially things like cabbage and spinach which are very low in calories. I would saute the cabbage or spinach with onion, of course no oil just a very hot cast iron pan and I made sure that the vegies filled me up. This worked well for me and I really enjoyed it.
No worries, this will work for you.
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Darlene5
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Posted: 22 Jul 2008 05:59 pm |
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katiepen wrote: Hi Darlene
Have you tried yerba mate. A lot of people that have trouble with caffeine do not have a problem with yerba mate. Check out their web site, they even say that they only use the word caffeine for lack of a better word, it is a different form of energy and it has been used for centuries. Yerba Mate helps me so much with the hunger, maybe it could work for you. If you can't tolerate yerba mate then try decaffeinated teas with stevia, rooibos tea is really yummy and you can get decaf. green teas as well. Stevia helps balance the blood sugar and I think that this helps a lot with the hunger.
The hunger will get better, have faith. Of course you can't get through this if you're feeling starving. If it is not getting better in a couple days we need to look at possible causes. What dosage of hcg are you using? I've definately noticed on hcg forums that people on lower doses of hcg have more problems with hunger. Also have you tried spreading out your food like having your fruit at different times then your meal. I was eating my apple at 10:00. This helped me not get too hungry before my lunch. Also I was putting cinnamon on my apple. Cinnamon also helps balance the blood sugar. I was also generous with my vegetables especially things like cabbage and spinach which are very low in calories. I would saute the cabbage or spinach with onion, of course no oil just a very hot cast iron pan and I made sure that the vegies filled me up. This worked well for me and I really enjoyed it.
No worries, this will work for you. Hi there, Thanks so much for the attention and help! Yes I've tried Yerba mate tea, and it also did the same thing. But maybe I will try it again. My first day I did try decaff green tea. Not sure how much it really helped though. But anyways, this morning I weighed my self again and was 3 pounds lighter again. I hope that continues for a long time. Yesterday two hours before lunch I was really hungry. But then that evening I noticed that I wasnt as hungry. When it came time to eat dinner I could have even skipped it. But that still doesnt convince me it's the hcg. Sometimes when you go a long time with out eating the hunger eventually passes, with or with out Hcg. Now today again I was hungry two hours before lunch, craving toast with peanut butter! but some how got though it. Maybe this evening I wont be hungry again. We'll see. Right now it's after lunch and Im craving ice cream really bad! But anyways it might be becoming a little easier, like a "off and On" type thing. Too early to tell for sure though. But Im not tired anymore. I have a weird type of energy. Before starting this diet I had severe fatigue problems the past 10 months. Chronic fatigue problems where doing anything was hard. Then all three of my loading days with the injections made me even more tired. Now this is only my third day of eating 500 calories a day, and only my second day of actually not feeling tired, so I have no idea if this Hcg really fights fatigue or not. It might be too early to tell. But it's amazing that the past two days I havent been tired. I am really hopeing this energy continues. It's been so long since I've had it! It sure does help with playing with my kids better and more often. Maybe I can get my life back. Maybe it's not even energy, maybe its just a good mood. I dont know. I dont feel like exercising cause Im afraid it will make me more hungry. But I do feel in a better mood and its easier to play with my kids. I think I might try that stevia. I wish I would have had some of that on my first day when I was craving sugar really bad. But I think I'll get some for my husband. I'm using 250 Hcg sub-Q. In the stomach. I've been not eating anything until 1pm (lunch) and I would eat everything (the veggies, fruit, and meat). And then not eat anything till 7pm or 8pm (dinner) and would eat everything. And of course lots of water in between. But you know I think I'm going to try it like how you mentioned. Because today I ate lunch, and I still havent eaten the apple in my lunch yet. I could have had that apple for breakfast when I was hungry. And then skip it for lunch. Same with dinner. I'm going to not eat the fruit until an hour or two after dinner. That way I might be able to stay up a little later, instead of going to bed early with a sleeping pill! : ) Ok one question. You said you were real generous with the vegetables. Does this mean you were having more than one cup per meal? Cause the protocol say's only one cup twice a day? Thanks for reminding me about the cinnamon! When I get tired of the same old same old, I'll add some cinnamon. Geez sorry for writing so much! Thanks again for all your help, and good suggestions! Darlene5
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katiepen
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Posted: 23 Jul 2008 11:51 am |
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Hi Darlene
It sounds like it is getting better and I'm so happy for you. I think that if you save your apples for between meals when you start to get really hungry that will make a big difference for you.
And yes with certain vegies like cabbage, lettuce, spinach, celery I had more like 2 cups and that didn't throw off my weight loss. Everybody's body is different so if you are going to try doing that go slow and observe.
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Darlene5
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Posted: 23 Jul 2008 12:32 pm |
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No it's not getting better. Yesterday after my last post to you it got really bad for the whole rest of the day and night. I couldnt sleep cause I was so hungry. I was just as hungry as I was the first day trying this. But I still havent cheated...... This morning I weighed only one pound less. So I guess its starting to tapper off. Its weird cause I didnt eat more thats for sure!
Darlene5
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EweWho
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Posted: 27 Jul 2008 05:53 pm |
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Hi all!
I am currently on Phase 4, will start my 5th round of Phase 2 in about 3 weeks. I started at 266 pounds and currently am holding at 203, which is about 5 pounds over my Last Injection Weight. However, I am doing sublingual, taking 75IU in the morning and again in the evening.
I ordered my hCG and started with injections, but switched to sublingual and have been doing it that way since the first round. I haven't gone through a clinic, even though there are two in our city. I'd rather spend my money on the hCG! 
I was holding at LIW until our church conference, went overboard and gained a few extra pounds and just haven't made any effort to take them off again....probably because I know I am doing another round and they will come off the first week.
I've had absolutely NO side effects whatsoever from the hCG and am amused by the comments from people who are against this protocol. I am not going to argue with them because it is pointless. I am not going to convince them, and it is pointless for them to try to convince me. The weightloss has already convinced me that this works. My doctor is supportive of my doing this, but I don't even NEED his approval.
I belong to a forum that consumes a lot of my time, and won't be able to post often here, but I will enjoy reading when I can. I love watching the success that people have on this protocol!
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katiepen
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Posted: 6 Aug 2008 11:22 am |
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Just updating
I started back on the shots on Sat, the weekend was my gorging days. I've lost 4 pounds since Monday, yeah! I love this protocol!
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Darlene5
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Hi Katiepen, I'm excited for you. keep us posted on how the diet goes. I'm only loseing around a half a pound or less a day. I dont understand it. There must be something I'm doing wrong. I'm not walking everyday, thats the only thing I can think of that it might be. Either that or something Im getting on my skin. I use seventh generation dish soap, that I use everyday to clean my kids bottles. But its not on my skin for more than ten seconds. GHI told me to not worry about stuff that gets on my skin as long as it's not a fatty oil. They said any organic lotion is ok to use. which doesnt make sense to me. I also get a tad bit of peanut butter on my fingers when making my kids toast. This cant be the cause can it? And the other thing is I'm eating the same veggies for lunch and dinner. But everything else is different for each meal. I'm wondering if I'm only losing a half pound a day because i'm not having any bowel movements. What do you think?
How much weight do you have to lose this time?
Darlene5
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tinkerbell
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Posted: 6 Aug 2008 04:27 pm |
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Darlene,
Found this link and thought of you. I didn't read it, but thought you might be interested. Hope it helps.
http://hcgcoach.com/hcgFAQ.shtml#Hunger:
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Darlene5
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Posted: 6 Aug 2008 06:11 pm |
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Thanks Tinkerbell, I now know of some possible laxatives. And I think I'll stop taking Benedryl before bed time every night. : )
Darlene5
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katiepen
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Posted: 7 Aug 2008 11:32 am |
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Hi Darlene
My weight loss after the first week seems to slow to about 1/2 pound a day too. I think that this is true for a lot of women. It's faster for men but even at 1/2 pound a day I'm thrilled and it's better then any other option that I've ever found. I do notice that when I walk everyday that my weight loss picks up. I have 16 more pounds to lose.
I wear gloves when I wash dishes. I also wear gloves when I'm preparing meals for the children in my childcare, I know it sounds a little extreme but I just don't want something that small affecting my weight loss. I also wouldn't use any body lotion, Dr. Simeon & Kevin Trudeau both caution aganist that. It's only for a few weeks. Chapstick is my hardest thing to give up but I get past it, I just keep telling myself that I can do anything for a few weeks. Compared to the deprivation of other diets that go on and on for months 1 slow pound at a time I'll take this anyday.
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Darlene5
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Posted: 7 Aug 2008 08:12 pm |
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Yes, I agree! Half a pound a day is still amazing.
I havent used any lotions yet. Except for that big No No when I used coconut oil on my legs! I cant believe I did that. : ) But the other day I did use some organic aloe vera gel on my legs. I've been in the sun getting tan, and my legs got really dry. It didnt effect my weight loss, but just in case I probably wont use it again.
What did you do while on your period? Did you stop the injections for the whole time? And if so was the hunger bad? Did you have to cheat during that time? I'm wondering if I can keep using the injections during my period. What do you think?
Darlene5
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Posted: 8 Aug 2008 10:50 pm |
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| Can I ask you how much did you pay and in what state do you live in?
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Darlene5
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Hi Silvia, not sure who your asking this question too. But I live in Washington state, and I went through a company in Florida. They sent me to one of their labs here in washington, for blood tests. Which were then sent to them in florida. After that they prescribed the Hcg to me, and shipped it to me. I spent a total of around $800.00. 5 for blood tests, and 3 for the Hcg. This is around what its going to cost you if you chose to get your Hcg from with in the United states and with a prescription. Other wise you can get it without a prescription which is a lot cheaper, and you dont have to purchase any blood tests. But it will be coming from over seas some where. (Another country). This is how I understand it anyways. I chose the clinic in Florida, just because it's who Kevin Trudaue has on his website as a good place to go. I figured if I get it from his site, and it doesnt work, then I would know that the diet doesnt work no matter where you get the Hcg from.
Darlene5
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Posted: 9 Aug 2008 09:15 am |
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| Sounds lke you are all doing so well but it sounds painful oouch!! Fair play to you all if it works for you good luck
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Posted: 9 Aug 2008 12:34 pm |
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did you get injections or sublingual? Do they have the same effect?
Also, did you have any side effects?
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Posted: 9 Aug 2008 12:36 pm |
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did you get injections or sublingual? Do they have the same effect?
Also, did you have any side effects?
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I got Injections. Sublingual doesn't work. The molecules in Hcg are too large to enter sublingualy. And Kevin in his book says it doesn't work. Also Dr. Simeons did injections. I've read in a ton of places about people having success with sublingual doses. So maybe things have changed, and they have thought of a way to make it work I dont know. But I easily decided that if I"m going to spend money to do this then I better do it the way they (Dr. Simeons and Kevin Trudaue) say to do it, or I'd be taking a huge chance of wasting my money and time.
I dont understand why people think its painful. I dont feel a thing. These needles are so very short and thin. I mean REALLY SHORT. Like half of half an inch. It goes in Sub-Q, Not in the muscle. Some places give you longer needles for going into the muscle. But most places I know of do short needs for the superficial tissue. This is not like the needles in Hospitals. It's very simple and painless and takes five seconds to do it each morning.
No side effects. I did have little headaches the first five days. And felt very tired the first three days, but both went completely away.
Hope this helps, and good luck : ) I've lost 14 pounds in 19 days so far.
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| Your results are fantastic. I dont think i could administer it myself though. I am qualified to take blood and it does not bother me doing it to others but when i had to monitor my sugar levels which was just a pin prick i go in a right state of panic. Silly really you would think after child birth i would not be bothered, just a baby myself i think. Best of luck to those of you who manged it its obviously giving desired results.
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Posted: 10 Aug 2008 01:34 pm |
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Hi Darlene
I'm so glad that you're getting such good results! Way to stick with it!
As for my period I stop the injections for the first 3 days, I have a relatively light period so I'm starting to slow down and almost be done by then. I continue the diet and I don't have any hunger problems. I don't cheat, I just keep telling myself that this is only for a few weeks and if I cheat I'll just have to stay on it longer. Not that it's terrible, I actually feel great when I'm on the shots, I just miss getting to eat more then 2X a day. And it's funny the things I crave are things like mango & avocado not anything sinister. Actually to be honest I actually did cheat a little 2 days ago. I tried to slip a mango past instead of my strawberries thinking that I could get away with it and surprise- I didn't lose any weight that day. That's what Dr. Simeon is talking about in his manuscript when he says people drive him crazy trying to sub their own things when he has spent so much time researching the exact things that work.
Anyway hang in there. I would probably try to not do the shots on your period for at least 2-3 days, it's surprising but you'll see that things don't really change, other then the fact that you probably won't lose any weight while you're on. No worries it starts right back after.
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Posted: 10 Aug 2008 02:37 pm |
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Thanks so much for your reply Katie,
I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking I'd stay off the shots the first three days of my period. So glad you agree. So that is what I'll do. I'll go longer if I can, just depends on if I start getting too hungry I guess.
I've come to realize all the other positive things this diet is doing for me. I'm eating more veggies, fruits, and meat then I ever did before. This diet has taught me how to eat them, and now I dont think I can ever go a day with out eating an apple. And to go this long with absolutely no sugar, is the best part of all. Im retraining my body. I think that after I come off this diet I wont have the sugar cravings anymore. Which is huge in it self. Also just the fact that I'm cleaning my body out. This diet is like a good cleanse for the body. The foods were eating are all clean, and healthy.
The meals on this diet fill me up. I dont feel hungry afterwards. But certain hours between time I get cravings which feels like hunger, and is most the time Bread, cookies, ice cream, crackers, Cereal, and peanut butter. But It has gotten better. I can not stress enough how guzzling a large glass of water helps. The hunger is gone after wards. I cant believe how much I'm able to drink either!. I always had a problem dinking enough water before this diet. But during this diet its very simple.
The protocol says that during this diet you dont feel hungry at all, and have no cravings. Which I disagree with. But it does decrease my appetite enough to where with a little will power I can do it. Where as with out the shot's it's just completely impossible. Plus they keep you from feeling weak, shakey, and tired which helps dramatically!.
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cynda79
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Posted: 10 Aug 2008 10:10 pm |
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| just started HCG injections at home. Looking for friends...THX
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Hi Cynda, how many days into it are you? And how are you doing with it?
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008 11:44 am |
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Darlene5 wrote: I got Injections. Sublingual doesn't work. The molecules in Hcg are too large to enter sublingualy. And Kevin in his book says it doesn't work. Also Dr. Simeons did injections.
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I don't believe half of what Kevin says. He had great results from the protocol and found a way to make money.
I've lost almost 70 pounds so far, and am doing sublingual. Everyone I know personally who is doing the protocol is doing sublingual. We are all losing at the same rate as those who are doing injections.
I am taking 150IU per day SUBLINGUALLY. I've completed 4 rounds doing it SL. You couldn't pay me to do it with injections.
If you are going to do it the way Dr. Simeons did, then you need to do it IM, not SC. You would need a needle that is at least 1.25" long to reach the muscle.
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Hi Darlene
I think that getting off the sugar is so important, I don't think that we realize how much it affects us everyday and getting off it is such a key to lifetime results. I already knew that I would never go back to white sugar but I was confused about organic sugar. During my 6 weeks in between shots I didn't have any sugar until that last weekend when I started the shots again and they were my gorging days. I made organic oatmeal cookies with organic sugar. I hadn't had any sugar in 11 weeks. I did have a small amount of raw honey after 4 weeks in phase 3 and had no problems with that. But immediately after eating those cookies I got a headache and I didn't feel well. I later talked to a friend that has had almost no sugar since finishing the protocol last year and said that whenever she has a little sugar that she gets headaches. That just shows how much our bodies are telling us that it is not good for us. I will be sticking with Stevia, Agave Nectar, Raw Honey, & Maple Syrup when I'm done with the protocol, just remembering how I felt after that little bit of sugar will help keep me on the straight and narrow.
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008 12:15 pm |
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| I don't really care if Kevin Trudeau wrote the book to make money, he brought this protocol out into the open and that has helped so many people. It was mainly underground for so many years and his book has caused an explosion of talk about it. You know what they say, any publicity is good publicity. He did a lot of research, he's a reporter, he researches other people's work , and he researched Dr. Simeon's work along with newer studies about the protocol. His references are all in the book. And most of what he talks about not only makes so much sense but has tons of research behind it. I'm so tired of people that want to bash him for his past or his desire to make money, who doesn't, I'm sure that you get paid for your job. He's helping a lot of people now and that's all that I care about. And if you want to ignore all the other great health stuff in his book then do so at your own expense. I have seen many posts about people that said that they didn't do anything in phase 1, especially the cleanses and they end up having a much harder time on the shots, stabalizing in phase 3 and keeping the weight off.
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008 12:48 pm |
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Yes, he brought the protocol out into the open again. It was popular in the 1970s and because of the misuse and abuse of the protocol, it disappeared. If you belong to other forums, you will see that again people are misusing it.
Because of the Internet, the protocol is growing. People do hear about it through Kevin's book, I'm one of them. I bought the book and started reading about it.
I didn't do the cleanses in Phase 1. I've been doing other cleanses for years, just not all of them that he suggests. I started drinking the teas he suggests, but switched to other herbal teas.
I belong to another forum that started in April and has grown to more than 700 members in three months. That alone shows that people are looking for an answer to obesity. None of the founding members did Phase 1. None of them have had any problems losing, and of the ones who have reached goal, none have had any problem maintaining their weight.
I'm not saying that cleansing isn't important. I'm just saying that if you can't afford it, don't worry about it because the protocol will still work for you.
I'm not saying that Kevin shouldn't have written a book. I am just saying that he isn't the "creator" of the protocol and you don't have to take what he says as gospel. He didn't include oranges in his diet. Dr. Simeons did in his original manuscript.
All I am saying is to do your own research and don't say that things won't work unless you know this to be a fact. Don't say that something won't work because Kevin says it won't because there are too many people out there who have proven it does. What works for some won't work for others. What doesn't work for some, does work for others.
Too many people never read Pounds & Inches and turn to others for the answers. If you quote P & I when you answer, you can't go wrong.
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008 02:19 pm |
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| Hi, today is my second day. I dont know if I "feel" anything yet. I am scared outa my mind that something will go wrong like blood clot after injection. I got the HCG from Rocky Point and giving myself injections. Do you think maybe I am just being a worry wart?
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008 02:38 pm |
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Ewe who,
Everything Kevin has in his book regarding the diet (besides phase 1) is basically identical to Dr. Simeons Protocol. So whats the problem with me mentioning Kevin at the same time I mention Dr. Simeon's when talking about injections and sublingual? They both say the same thing in regards to that. So whats the big diff? Alls I said was Dr. Simeons did injections, and Kevin say's sublingual doesnt work. So Im just relaying what I've heard. And I'm pretty darn sure you cant come on here and tell me what not to say.
Besides did you not see where I also wrote, "Maybe they have now figured out a way for Sublingual to work, I dont know"??? You sound a bit too defensive over nothing.
Your method is fine if it's working for you. That's great! If your going to get upset at someone saying that sublingual MIGHT not work, then how can you turn around and do the same exact thing to someone else by saying they shouldnt do sub Q shots? I and many others who have lost weight take 250 IU SubQ. The dose is larger so it works just as well as 125 in the muscle. Are you saying this doesnt work?
You could have just wrote back a nice note saying that Sublinguals worked great for you. Because that's what this board is, an informational sight for people to learn from each other. I was only repeating what I've heard. Isn't that what your doing?
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008 02:40 pm |
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Hi Cynda, what would make you worry about getting a blood clot? Is this your second gorging day?
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008 05:09 pm |
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| hi darlene, yes today is my second gorging day but not hungry at all. What should I expect to feel? how has your experience been? I hope my questions do not annoy you, you just seem to know so much about this diet
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008 05:50 pm |
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Actually Cynda I'm not too much ahead of you on this diet. This is my first time, and I'm on day 22. I read Dr. Simeons protocol, and Kevin Trudaue's book. Have you read either one of these?
During my gorging days I felt very tired. In the beginning some people get headaches for a few days. And some people feel more energy through out most the diet. Besides this I havent heard of any other side effects. The Hcg doesnt make you feel different really. It just helps you stay on a 500 calorie diet with out feeling weak, or too hungry.
It was hard for me during the gorge days too. But they say its very important to eat all the fat you can. It will help with the hunger the first few days of the low cal diet.
I had a problem with hunger for a long time. I cant drink caffeine so I think that was a big part of it. But it's gotten a lot better. I think because it was mostly cravings, and sense I starved the cravings they are now gone for the most part. My advise would be to just stick with it, because it gets easier and easier after time, and then you will be so glad you did. And guzzling a large glass of water with lemon helps dramatically when feeling hungry.
Of course your questions dont annoy me, dont be silly. Thats what this forum is for. Questions. : )
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Posted: 12 Aug 2008 06:27 pm |
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| Thanks Darlene...I hope this diet realy does work, i dont want to sound negative but i just dont know if this is the right diet for me. I will give it the benefit of the doubt and see what happens. today is my first day of 500 cal and not hard at all and not feeling hungry either. I have noticed that im very thirsty and surprised at how much water im drinking so maybe all the fluid keeping me from being hungry. Thanks for being so nice, it realy helps to be able to "connect" with others that are doing the same exact diet as i am
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Posted: 12 Aug 2008 07:01 pm |
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Cynda that sounds great! Your doing better than I did. I was starving in the beginning. And I still have problems with cravings and hunger. Glad to hear its going so well for you. : )
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