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Darlene5
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 Posted: 27 Jul 2008 01:57 pm
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So when this happened to you while you were ovulating, afterwards was there a big drop of weight making up for the days you didnt lose? Or did you just continue on the one pound a day?  The only thing I cheated on was one small bite of organic ice cream yesterday. Thats it. One very small bite.  Can you put Raw organic Coconut oil on your skin during phase 2? 

I even got some excercise yesterday, so I was pretty surprised at the scale this morning.  The meat I ate yesterday was a little different it was a new york steak, instead of veal.  I took every spec of fat off I could find before cooking it.   Since day one of this diet all the beef I've been eating has NOT been organic. Just because I cant find it anywhere!.  I can find organic ground beef, but it's not low enough in fat.  But all the chicken I've been eating has been organic. 

Thanks for your help! : )

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 Posted: 27 Jul 2008 02:54 pm
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Hi Darlene

I know that it sounds crazy but just one small bite of food can stop your weight loss for 1-2 days.  It's not so much the calories as the composition of the wrong foods throws off what the hcg is doing. 

And no, no oils on your skin at all, even wonderful cocunut oil which is also what I use when I'm not on the shots.  I have excema, so dry skin was a big concern for me.  I found that I could soak in dead sea salts, these have minerals to soften the skin so that helped me not get too dry without any moisturizers.  I went online and ordered them in bulk at snowdriftfarms.com.  They were more affordable there.

I found a couple places that you can look for recipes.  hcgrecipes.blogspot.com & HCGcoach.com.  Hopefully these will help you not to be so bored with your food.

And yes my weight loss would even out, not necessarily right after in a big drop, those tend to really be in the first week.  For women we can really expect overall a weight loss of 1/2 to 1 pound a day.  But it's not just the pounds lost, it's the body reshaping that really shows.  I've lost 22 pounds so far but I swear it looks at least as much as 40.

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 Posted: 27 Jul 2008 05:12 pm
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Well thats what it is then. I used some extra virgin coconut oil on my legs a few days ago. I thought for sure that in KT''s book it said to use it during the diet. He must have meant to use it during phase 1 and 3 or something.  Great! so these past two days have been pretty much wasted shots. I wont be able to make up for those days where I didnt lose anything right?

Darlene5

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 Posted: 27 Jul 2008 08:08 pm
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Everything's a learning experience with this protocol.  Try not to get too stressed out that just ends up working aganist us.  In the end you will be happy with your results.  You've finished your first week and that is the hardest.  My mantra the first round that I did this was I can do anything for 40 days.  Hopefully the hunger will be alot better this week and you'll find some variety with those recipes. 

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 Posted: 29 Jul 2008 06:35 pm
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I cant stand this diet!  This is nearly impossible!  Either this diet doesnt work, or GHI Medical gave me the wrong stuff!  Im nine days into the 500 calorie diet, and the hunger is outrageous! I dont see how anyone can follow this. Why does this Hcg work for everyone but me?  I havent heard one person have the same troubles Im having. And no its not just cravings, it's hunger. And even it were just cravings, cravings can be just as hard to fight as hunger, so how would one follow the diet?  Im craving just about every food BUT the food I'm suppose to be eating.   Im a stay at home mom, maybe its harder on me cause Im at home where theres food. I dont know. But this Hcg hasnt done anything for me.  I had energy like one day. Thats it. The only thing I can find that this Hcg MIGHT be doing is keeping me from feeling week. Thats it.  I almost feel like this Hcg makes me crave food more, cause when I used to diet with out it, it wasnt this hard.

 
Im looking for someone who is having the same problems, anyone?????

Darlene5

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 Posted: 30 Jul 2008 11:48 am
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Hi Darlene

Have you contacted GHI Medical?  Maybe there is something wrong with your batch because you shouldn't still be this hungry.  I've only heard of people having this happen when it's a bad batch of hcg.  I've heard of people buying a pregnancy test and putting the hcg on the stick to see if it's good.  Maybe they can send you a new batch.  In the meantime before you give up I would just eat more vegies  when you're starving.  This is better then giving up and you shouldn't be suffering this much. I've heard of a lot of people eating as many vegies as they want and their weight loss is still good. 

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 Posted: 30 Jul 2008 12:02 pm
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Hi Darlene,

Katepen is right eat more veggies just don't mix them up - what ever veggie you eating in the am eat more of that and same as the night time meal. I work for a naturalpathic dr who has incorporated this program into her practice. You should not be starving. If you do a pregnancy test on the vial - you will use up your vial plus there is such a small amount of hCG in it that it may not show up. If you are doing this through a Dr. care then talk to them about it. Good luck

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 Posted: 30 Jul 2008 12:53 pm
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Thanks you guys.  Yes I've talked to GHI about it.  They dont say much. They just went over everything I"m suppose to be doing.  Thats it.  I really doubt they will give me a new bottle of Hcg for free. I mean how do they know I'm not lying to get a free bottle.  How can you get a bad batch anyways? What would make it bad? You mean expired? Or something thats not even Hcg at all?  If this isnt Hcg then I wonder what the heck it is Im injecting into my body.  The expiration date is fine. I'm not sure what would make it bad.

I eat lettuce with cabbage for my veggie at lunch. And usually asparagus (which I hate!)for dinner.   So are you saying I shouldnt mix my lettuce with cabbage? 

Thanks for your help you guys!

Darlene5

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 Posted: 30 Jul 2008 01:00 pm
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OH yeah, and they (GHI) tried to sell me some appetite suppresant pills when I tried talking to them about this. Ha ha ha ha ... I said you sold me a product that doesnt work, so why would I buy another one of your products!   I'm tempted to buy some Hcg from some where else just out of curiousity to see if GHI really did screw me over.  But then I would probably have to start the whole protocol over again right? (the gorging).

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 Posted: 30 Jul 2008 09:11 pm
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Hi Darlene

I used GHI Medical the first time and I didn't have any problems.  I'm sure that what you have is hcg, I don't think that GHI medical did anything wrong it's just that I've read on some forums that some batches weren't working, probably in the manufacturing.  Frustrating I know.  But it doesn't sound like it's not working at all, just not as well as it should.  Try the extra vegies and see if that helps.  It really shouldn't mess with your weight loss.

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 Posted: 1 Aug 2008 09:59 am
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Hello everyone.  I have been doing the HCG Phentermine for 2 months...The first month I lost about 13 lbs, the 2nd month I had to take the majority of the month off due to a car accident...couldnt work out so didnt take the meds...Im back on and into week 1 of my 3rd month, but more like my 2nd.  I never felt hungry, in the beginning the thought of food made me sick, I didnt want to eat 500 calories a day, any food was forced.  I noticed for me that water is HUGE Month 1 I was drinking 96 oz. a day, or 3 of the Aquafina liter bottles.  I switched to the pills versus capsules because they are half the price at my pharmacy... when i went last time to the doctor I told her I felt like it wasnt working as well, definately harder to stay under 800 cal(my max).  I also felt like I was ok throughout the day but by night the meds had worn off so I was soooo hungry. She suggested that i break the pill in half, half after or before breakfast and the other half around lunch time....ITS DEFINATELY WORKING!  It makes my energy level higher and helps curb the night starvation periods I was having, ok I wasnt really starving but I was hungry...

Also, I dont have anything I am restricted from,  I usually do not eat white flour anyway and try to stay away from sugar but Im just on the 500-800 cal a day.  I know some people loose faster following a more strict program but the way I am I feel like I could eat the way Im eating now forever, once off the diet i will probably remain around 1000 calories a day due to my metabolism being so low...but when I restrict myself I crave the things i cant have.  also i take 2 days a week off phentermine and only take 1 shot a week.  the 2 days off stop the immunity your body begins to build against the phentermine...Im really happy with this program so far, everything is monitered closely by a physician.  I am going on a Cruise sunday so i know it will be a challenge to work out and eat right, but like my dr said as long as i take it as a vacation and not a floating table it will all be ok! 

Im not huge, im an 8 I just want to be a 4 again, I would like to loose about 35 lbs more before being off the program...we can only do 6 month intervals....

 

also the days off the phentermine teach me how to each healthy without the med.  I will say that I crave more sweets on the days im off, with the phent i want fruit all day, and like a slice of turkey....

 

to those who were posting earlier that its for people who "dont have what it takes" to do it the old fashioned way, I was working out 6 days a week, for 2 hours~ 1 hr on the eliptical with heart rate at cardio and fat burning the whole time (minus the cool down and start up) and weights the next hour.  I stayed on a strict 1000 cal diet, no bread no white flour and very rarely allowed myself a half of a cookie or something, water only.  I did this for about 8 months and lost 3 lbs....3!!! It was so not worth that much work...and it wasnt that i built muscle, my clothes fit the same, measurements in inches were about 1/2 an inch smaller in waiste and nothing really everywhere else....Im only 21 so my metabolism shouldnt be what it is but it is....anyway the dr said i would have to eat 500 a day or 800 on days I go to the gym... I dont think I could do 500 without an appetite supp. without starving PLUS the hcg causes ur body to get the other calories it needs from the fat already stored, so when a normal person consumes 700 cal. a day weight loss is difficult because their bodies enter starvation mode, its a fine line, with this HCG prevents that by obtaining any additional calories needed from the stored fat....hcg's only side effect i am aware of (done some research) is increased fertility when using 10000 units, versus the 35 i use.  Phentermine isnt healthy, but neither is being overweight you are more likely to have heart problems from being overweight then from this medication.

 

sorry to be so long winded...my first post haha!!

 

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 Posted: 1 Aug 2008 05:28 pm
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Has anyone else noticed fewer bowel movements while taking Hcg?  Does anyone know of a laxative thats ok to use with the diet?  Something that wont screw up the diet?  I was told by my clinic that you cant do a colon cleanse while on the diet. But I would think theres something else out there that would be ok.  Like maybe just some magnesium or something. benefiber??

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 Posted: 3 Aug 2008 07:24 am
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Hello everyone, i signed up just to post this as i have been reading all your posts.

I absolutely agree with MrsCook2008,  long thought what to do and all the same have dared and have bought in this shop checkeddrug.com .
Thus mine MasterCard have accepted without problems.


And here I am very happy, good luck everyone! :grin:

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Is aloe Vera gel ok to use during phase two.( For a lotion ?)

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Hi Darlene

Yes , i had the same problem with bowel movements.  I started doing coffee enemas which are also a wonderful liver cleanser and they are cheap and you can do them yourself at home.  You can also do colonics.

I don't know about the aloe vera, I avoid everything like that.  I do have excema so dry skin is a concern.  I started soaking in dead sea salt baths.  They are full of minerals that moisturize the skin plus as a bonus they help with detoxing.  

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Hey there,

 

I'm about to start the HCG diet (in like 2 days) and am also a vegetarian... i'm desperately seeking advice as far as what to do for the protein as a substitue.  i do eat eggs but i have no idea how many/the egg whites only/yolk ratio, etc.  also, i heard i can use cottage cheese as a substitute sometimes, as well.  any experience with this?  and is tofu/veggie "meats" completely out of the question?  thanks so much in advance for your help...

 

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Hi veggiehelp

Yes, tofu veggie meats are out of the question.  These are processed and contain hidden sugars so it's better to get off of those now.  I used to use those quite a bit as well but have discovered that soy is not very good for most people and it's better to stick with beans, eggs, & raw dairy for your protein sources when you finish the protocol.

I have used eggs for the protocol and that has worked perfectly.  You use 1 whole egg + 3 egg whites for your protein.  I usually make egg salad for lunch with celery, cherry tomatoes, lettuce, red onion, apple cider vinegar, dried mustard and herbemare(an organic herb salt), very yummy and filling.  Then for dinner I poach the eggs and have a vegetable on the side, usually sauteed cabbage or spinach with onions.  I just use a really hot cast iron pan, of course no oil, and I've had no problem mixing the onion & veggie.  You can use cottage cheese but the milk sugars can slow down your weight loss (usually to about half) so I just stuck with the eggs.  You're only having 2 egg yolks a day so there's no problem with that.  Good Luck!

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I have just learned about this HCG shot and would like to know if anyone knows the likelyhood of contracting HIV from this growth hormone?

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I would think slim to nil as long as you use sterile new needles for each injection.

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 Posted: 13 Aug 2008 09:08 pm
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Hi Everyone, I have found this site extremely helpful. I am beginning the HCG program on Monday, so wish me luck.

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Good Luck Chaz!  We're here if you have any questions.

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 Posted: 13 Aug 2008 10:42 pm
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Is Rose still on this forum?  I thought she or someone else might be able to help with my situatiojn.

  I have been on the HCG for about 10 days and have lost about 9 pounds, but I'm very hungry!  I have cheated the last few days because I'm so hungry.  I keep reading about people who are not hungry at all and I thought you might have some insight for this since you're working for the doctor.  What are your thoughts?

Thanks!  Stacey

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Hi Stacey

I'm not Rose but I'll see if I can help.  I think that Darlene mentioned  drinking tea.  I could not do this therapy without it.  Yerba Mate is the best.  Also wu long tea and chamomile at night.  Use Stevia for sweetner, it also helps to balance the blood sugar which will help with the hunger.  I also put cinnamon on my apple which also balances blood sugar.

Also be sure to follow the protocol exactly, don't cheat, this just makes things worse.  The hunger will get better. 

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 Posted: 14 Aug 2008 01:43 pm
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Thanks so much katiepen!

I was wondering if cheating just made hunger worse.  I am committed to follow the protocal exactly today and believing it will get better. 

As for the teas - are the specific ones you mentioned available at health food stores or where did you get yours?  (Yerba mate and wu long)  and I am going to have to go to a health food store this weekend to get some stevia.

I'll try cinnamon on my next apple - I forgot that was allowed.  and my protocal doesn't include strawberries, but I see that many people use them, so those are ok too?

How much have you lost so far?  and is this your first time on the protocal or have you done other rounds?

thanks again for responding!

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 Posted: 18 Aug 2008 11:16 am
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Hi Stacey

I did the protocol last year and I lost 30 pounds but I didn't finish phase 3 correctly so over the last year I gained the weight back.  So I started again, totally committed to doing it all right and with a solid belief that this will be the last diet that I ever do.  I lost 22 pounds in my first round, I hit immunity early because I messed up my first shot and accidently gave myself a mega shot.  So I took the 6 weeks off in between and did phase 3 perfectly this time and now I'm on my 2nd round.  I've lost 10 pounds so far(including the 2 I gained on my gorging days)  so I've lost a total of 30 so far and I have 10 more to go.  I feel great and confident and this time phase 3 will be done to completion and I will live following the principles of phase 4.   

Yes, the health food store is your best bet for the teas or online for wu long.  And strawberries are allowed.  8 medium.  How is it going for you? 

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Okay, so I can really use help. I started my protocol one week ago today and have barely loss 2lbs!! I don't contribute those 2lbs to the protocol because I've been excercising as well daily. Has anyone else had this happen and what can I do to get the weight to start coming off!!??

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 Posted: 31 Aug 2008 04:36 pm
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What kind of exercising are you doing?  When ever I do any kind of exercising I dont lose much or none the next day. The book says to only walk.  Probably because your burning calories, and with this diet you cant eat LESS than 500 calories.

Some other things to look at,

Are you injecting?

Do you feel hungry? If so that would mean the diets not working which would mean it's probably either that not enough is getting into your system, or that you need a higher dose.

And are you using any lotions, oils? are you getting anything like that on your hands at all or any where on your body?

 Are you making sure to not eat any of the same thing in each meal each day? And tell us what your eating?  This is very interesting.  We will get it figured out for you, so dont worry ok? : )

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 Posted: 31 Aug 2008 08:23 pm
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Hi Darlene, Thanks for responding and I need the help.

First, I have been working out pretty actively i.e. spin classes, personal trainer, etc.

Secondly, I have been hungry even with taking the injections everyday.

Third, my food intake has been pretty consistent I think. I deviated once but nothing of major significance to through me off the this much. I have not been eating vegetables everyday with my meals. I travel alot and sometime have to get food on the fly. So food may have something to do with it if I have to be consistentant with meal regime.

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Well thats what it is then.  Its your exercising for sure!  And it's also what your not eating and maybe also what you are eating.

You have to eat the veggies, the fruit and the meat, the combined chemical compounds in these foods is what triggers the Hcg do work the way it does.  The portion sizes have to be exact too.  The meat has to be weighed raw and can be no more or less than 95-100 grams.  The veggies are a cup size, and can only be certain veggies. The fruit is either a grapefruit, seven medium strawberrys, or a med to small size apple. You can use Cinnamon on your apple, salt and herb seasoning on your meat, and apple cider vinagar and salt for your salad or veggies.  Did you read the protocol at all? I would read it so you understand what you can eat, how to eat it, etc...you will then understand why you need to eat all the foods and no others.

 

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 Posted: 1 Sep 2008 09:46 am
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I did not reead the book because the company I used "HCGdiet.com" said it was not necessary because their program deviated from it. I read it last night after your email and wow!

I had also received a massage, was using lotions and oils, etc. I am going to buy a food scale this morning and follow the protocal to the letter!

I am still concerned about the fact that I am still hungry. I purchased some wulong tee but it hasn't done much. I don't know if it is the right potency since I purchased it from the same place as I purchased my HCG!

Well, i'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again for the advice and support. This is a wonderful forum!

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Chaz, now what book are you talking about?  How could you have ordered it, recieved it and read it all in one night! ha ha ha   I was talking about the book. The weight loss cure they dont want you to know about by Kevin Trudeau.  Or you can read Dr. Simeons protocol which is on the internet for free.  Maybe thats what you read?

Man! I'm surprised you didnt gain weight! ha ha with all that oil!  Even just a tiny bit of oil on your finger is enough to cause you to not lose anything the next day. Its crazy!  Its mostly fatty oils we want to stay away from.  I cant believe Hcgdiet.com didnt tell you any of this. Sounds like they didnt tell you anything as to how to do the diet.

As for your hunger. I had the same problem. I went 35 days on the diet hungry, and craving sugar. I finally got the idea to try shooting in the muscle instead. what a huge difference. I now have no problems with hunger. And I finally feel the energy everyone talks about.  At first I kept the dose at 250, but I have now lowered it to 200.  I could tell 250 was too much, just because I was kinda wired and felt my heart in my chest. According to the protocol 200iu should be the max when injecting into the muscle. So I'd like to play it safe, and go by the rules.  Im injecting into the thigh now and using the same short subQ needles. I just inject in locations where the muscle is near for the needle to reach. Chaz this fixed my hunger problem completely so you might want to consider this.  Where are you injecting now? Is it in the muscle? And how much are you injecting? Maybe you just need to up the dose.  If you dont want to shoot in the muscle than the other option is to keep injecting where your injecting now, but up the dose.

Hope this helps : )

Darlene5

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 Posted: 1 Sep 2008 09:49 pm
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I downloaded Dr. Simeon's protocal online and read it.

Currently, I'm injecting 250 and I inject it in my stomach about 2 to3 inches away from my belly button but the cravings for sugar are great and Iam still hungry. I have very thick thighs so I don't know if that is the best way to reach muscle for me but I would like to try injecting it into the muscle....Question: does it hurt more to inject into the muscle directly?

 

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No Chaz it doesnt hurt at all. But if your going to do that I would for sure find good instructions. You will need to know the safe locations to inject, and you will need to order your needles from a good place.  Im sorry I dont know of a place to order needles, but I"m sure someone here on this forum will know. They may even know where you can get instructions. You might be able to find info on this buy just looking back at previous pages reading peoples posts too.  But be very careful, you dont want to hit bone, and you dont want to hit an artery. So I would research as much as you can about safe places to give muscle injections.  Hopefully you can find a safe place on your body to do it with the short needles you already have.

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I started the HCG diet 9 days ago.  (Mon and I'm writing this on Wed night).   I have lost 15 lbs!!!  It is incredible.  I can't even hardly believe it.  I am following Dr Simeons protocol precisely.   I am exercising though (I started last mon with a trainer, the same day I started the diet).   I was dealing with cravings my first week, although I think they were completely in my head and not true hunger.  The meals satisfy me, so I'm not left hungry right after.   My second week seems much better with cravings.  I think its cause I am seeing such great results.    I only expected to lose 20 total, so now I'm hoping to lose close to 25.     Everyone should read the official manuscript that Dr Simeon wrote, its long, but details everything.     I haven't touched oil, lotion or anything in over a week....I'm going to lather up when this is done!  

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 Posted: 4 Sep 2008 01:37 am
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Oh and also, I'm not doing the injections - I have a oral (under my tongue) version.  I don't think I could do the shots....

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 Posted: 4 Sep 2008 01:42 am
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Sounds great Kirsten!  Where did you get the oral Hcg from?  Is it true you dont get immune to the Oral kind?

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 Posted: 4 Sep 2008 02:14 am
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Well this sucks, but I think I'm becoming immune to the shots now.  I think I have to end it.  I think I lost the least amount of weight than anyone I've read.  20 pounds in over 45 days. Not too impressive.  Depressing cause I wanted to be down at least 10 more pounds before my vacation.  I wish there was some way I could keep going!!!!

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 Posted: 4 Sep 2008 11:40 am
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Hi Darlene

Don't get discouraged now.  You had problems at first but you've figured it out now and your next round will be even more successful!  You knew this immunity was coming, just take off the 6 weeks and enjoy a little more freedom.  Be very careful, follow phase 3 exactly and be prepared to fast(the steak day) if you need to, it works like a charm.  If you really want to flatten your stomach for your vacation do some colonics before you leave.  These will help your next phase be more smooth too.  Whatever you do just enjoy your weight loss on your vacation, 20 pounds is a lot of weight, especially on this protocol.  We as women never seem to be happy with our bodies, try to enjoy your accomplishments and don't worry about the next round until you get there.  This is a lifetime protocol, you have the rest of your life to enjoy more vacations with even more weight loss!:grin:

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Hello fellow HCG Bloggers. Well, i've been on my protocol for 3 weeks now and have loss a whopping 11 lbs~

What am I doing wrong? I admit the first week I was completely backwards but since then, no oil, lotions and I have stuck to the 500 calories or less. I have 19 more days on this phase and want to really optimize the program in hopes of getting closer to my weight loss goals.

I love to work out and would really like to incorporate that into my plan. I read a recent post from Kristen who loss 15lbs in 9days while working with a trainer as well. I would be so happy to know what an average day was for you i.e. menu and amount of time you exercised.

Otherwise, i'm feeling better. Not hungry and only cravings at night. My energy levels are amazing and my mood is good.

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 Posted: 16 Sep 2008 11:18 am
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Try to remember that your body is reshaping too.  So even though it doesn't show on the scale that doesn't mean that you're not losing fat. 

 Also, you said that you are eating 500 calories or less.  The or less part concerns me because if you eat less then 500 calories that can keep you from losing weight too.  The 500 calorie diet along with the hcg brings us to the edge of starvation which is what causes the body to release the adipose fat.  But if you eat less then the 500 calories then you could go into starvation mode and then your body will hold onto everything that you have.  so just make sure that you are eating your full 500 calories and that they are made up of the foods recommended by Dr. Simmeons & Kevin Trudeau, don't skip anything even if you don't feel like eating.

As far as the exercise I know that walking an hour a day is recommended but nothing more strenuous then that.  You don't want to burn too many calories, you don't have that many to burn.  You can pick up more exercise when you go into phase 3.  I'm in phase 3 now and I'm exercising more everyday, it feels good to be able to do more.

It sounds like you're right on track.  I know that it's frustrating when other people show faster weight loss but our bodies are all different and 11 pounds in 3 weeks is nothing to sneeze at.  I'm sure that you can see it and feel it on your body.  I had a slower weight loss too but in the end I'm at my goal weight after 2 rounds, I lost 40 pounds, and I have a lifetime plan to never be fat again.  Very worth it!  Good Luck!

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 Posted: 16 Sep 2008 12:25 pm
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My fear is going over the 500 calories a day and sometimes I'm not very hungry. I have noticed the change in my body and the way my clothes fit. It's funny because prior to beginning this protocol, I was not scale conscious at all and now I feel as though I'm obsessed with it!

I have been playing with different menus to see what works best for my body and dropping weight. I have found that the beef is not my friend. Currently, I eat half a grapefruit and coffee for breakfast, 2 boiled eggs and salad for lunch, the other half of the grapefruit to snack on, and for dinner is chicken breast (steamed), a veggie ie broccoli or asparagus and a tiny salad with nothing on it (I don't eat salad dressing). If i'm craving sugar, i'll cup up an apple and snack on it. Of course, I drink from 6 to 7 16oz bottles of spring water each day. I also drink the wulong tea and coffee if I don't have my tea bags with me.

I put that there to see if I'm on the right page of if anyone else has a good menu that they have been successful with.

 

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Hi Chaz

I was reading through all the posts and saw your post on your meal plan.  I'm wondering if you are not losing as much due to mixing veggies...maybe adding in the salad is delaying your loss.  It was my understand per the manuscript that there is no mixing of the vegetables since different veggies are metabolized differently.  How often you are having eggs, because the yolks contain higher amounts of fat.  I am also curious as to how come you have increased your injections to 250 instead of 125 IU in the manuscript?

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Hi Chaz, your losing half a pound a day which is still good!  But have you tried to do the Apple day?  You should see a big loss after doing that, and it might kickstart the diet into working better there after.

If your eating organic grapefruit, they are quite smaller. I personally would eat a whole one on days your more hungry, just because Im certain it wont effect your weight loss. 

Diddo what Katiepen said, dont work out!  Just walk a little. You cant burn too many calories or it wont work.

I'm so glad to hear your appetite is decreased now. What did the trick?

As for the beef, I couldnt find any Organic beef that was lean enough. Maybe thats why the beef isnt working for you?  I know were suppose to stick to Organic only but I didnt know what else to do.....So I found a NON Organic ground beef with only 4 % fat. Its at FredMeyers and called Laura's Lean Beef.  This is what I used.  It also says it has no antibiotics or added growth hormones so thats a plus.  Maybe this is still too much fat though, i dont know. But they dont put the fat content on steaks so how is one to know? So I chose the ground beef. I couldnt find Organic Veal, so I tried NON Organic Veal, but because I found myself chewing on bits of fat in it, I thought it might have too much fat.   I put seasalt and garlic powder on the ground beef and it tastes really good! Also Katiepen would know how to eat eggs cause thats what she eats.

As for Vegetables, Broccoli is NOT on the protocol. Not sure how much of a difference it would make by eating it. But it's not on the protocol.

For lunch I had a salad made with Romain lettuce, and tomato.  I made my own dressing which was just Salt and Vinegar. (Apple cider vinegar is a fat burner)

For dinner my Vegetable was a salad made with Cabbage, and Celery.  (With the salt and vinegar dressing)

This way both vegetables for each meal were different.  And I would have chicken for lunch and beef for dinner.  And a total of two different fruits a day.  Usually it was an apple for lunch and either strawberrys or a grapefruit for dinner.

And I used Stevia in my tea for a sweetner. 

Hopefully something here helps : )  But keep your chin up, your still doing well. Half a pound a day is not bad!!

Darlene5

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Hi Chaz

As for the eggs 2 eggs has too much fat so you have to use 1 whole egg with 3 egg whites.  This was my protein source for the whole protocol as I'm a vegetarian and it worked well for me.  Also with the fruits it says to have 2 different ones so instead of the other half of yur grapefruit try an apple or 8 strawberries.  And broccoli has too many carbs for the protocol.  Try cabbage or spinach both of which you can be a little generous with.  I hope this helps.  Try reading through the manuscript again and if you can get Kevin Trudeau's book that is full of info.  Good Luck!

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 Posted: 20 Sep 2008 02:02 pm
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I started the HCG shot (here in Florida) about two weeks ago.  The very first week, I lost 4.6 pounds, and during the second week, I lost two inches from my bustline, waist and hips.  A friend of mine introduced me to the clinic.  She completed the eight weeks, and went from a size 12-14, down to an 8-10.  They say on average, if you use the shot ALONG WITH the diet, it works, but the diet is IMPORTANT, or you won't lose anything.  It really teaches you to eat better, and forces you to think about everything you put in your mouth.


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 Posted: 20 Sep 2008 10:36 pm
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Thanks Katie, but I never eat the yolks! I believe I finally have my protocol working correctly. I have lost 15lbs since starting and my body fat has dropped significantly!! Then women here can probably give me some advice with this one but how did you ladies do during menustration?

I have about 15 days left on this round and 15 lbs left to hit my goal. I have learned some wonderful eating habits and new ways of preparing my meals. this has been a life altering event for me and I will be an advocate of the HCG "Diet" for a long time.

Good luck everyone new, stick with it because it does work! But i'm not going anywhere........

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Hello,

I would like to know where you purchased the oral hcg. I would like to try that before the shots.

Will you please provide that information?

 

Thanks

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 Posted: 30 Sep 2008 09:45 am
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We use the shot, but you can also get oral hCG from our clinic after a doctor's appointment.  Let me know if you still want the info about the clinic.  eMail me at the following email: buck at 3rdwave.com (at=@)

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Hello all! I going to be starting the HCG diet here shortly and need a little help. Tomorrow I will take my shot of Double HCG with B-12 which is an "all you can eat day". The following day I will take Double HCG with another "all you can eat day". I guess this is called my loading days.

BUT, here is where I am not so sure, day 3 and 4 (Sun and Mon) I will not take any shot, just start my 500 cal diet. Then on Tues., I will start my single injections and continue with my 500 cal diet, which is actually day one, right?

See I am a little lost. The pamplets they gave me at the Clinic say one thing, but the MA there and the Dr. say different! Mix of information here. I am a nurse and I am unsure of what I need to do.

Someone please help!:confused:

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 Posted: 22 Dec 2008 08:12 pm
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hello.  Im a 30 year old female..always been pretty active but I cant seem to shed some unwanted extra pounds like I have in the past and its getting frustrating. thats why HCG injections..sounds so appealing to me.
Problem is I'm 5'2 and about 127lbs.  Most dr's dont take me seriously when I express my concern and I am stifled. I have tried the lipotropics...and Ehhh...not impressed.   Am I overweight enough to use HCG?  have u any experience with the oral HCG?
I appreciate any knowledge u can share or just your opinion. Thanks

Gia


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