| It's NOT All About You. It's about personal responsibility! |
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JSABD
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Posted: 9 Jan 2012 07:49 pm |
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 10 Jan 2012 02:14 pm |
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You're not giving us a lot to go on here, and this was something I definitely wanted to hear more about.
If someone's past the draft age and childless, what level of fitness do they owe as a citizen and why? Somehow I can't help thinking of Animal Farm. Boxer with all his size and strength, got used up and sold out by who? So excuse me if I'm a little skeptical on this point. (If you've never read it JS, you'll love it)
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JSABD
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Posted: 10 Jan 2012 02:26 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: You're not giving us a lot to go on here, and this was something I definitely wanted to hear more about.
If someone's past the draft age and childless, what level of fitness do they owe as a citizen and why? Somehow I can't help thinking of Animal Farm. Boxer with all his size and strength, got used up and sold out by who? So excuse me if I'm a little skeptical on this point. (If you've never read it JS, you'll love it)
This can go to a religious and spiritual direction. Most people are responsible to some degree for someone else. The medical costs of obesity get paid by everyone. Fatling take a bigger piece of the pie. I was reading what the increased fuel costs are for airplanes. Seats in theaters and stadiums are bigger now which increases the price of admission and makes it so less people can attend. Cars are bigger and less fuel efficient.
No man is an island. Personal responsibility is connected to social responsibility.
I purposely did not opine on this because I was hoping others would chime in.
Most people do have kids and a spouse. Then there are grand kids. I think is is extremely selfish and unfair to deprive a child of functional parents and grand parents for gluttonous pleasures. Gluttons may disagree.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 10 Jan 2012 03:53 pm |
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Okay, but what you're talking about doesn't show up until someone into the obese range and on up.
Medical costs is too complex. It's not just the obese. It's the elderly, the drug companies and a hundred other things. The US won't be able to afford national health care until we do something about malpractice insurance and drug costs, anyway.
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JSABD
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Posted: 10 Jan 2012 06:00 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: Okay, but what you're talking about doesn't show up until someone into the obese range and on up.
Medical costs is too complex. It's not just the obese. It's the elderly, the drug companies and a hundred other things. The US won't be able to afford national health care until we do something about malpractice insurance and drug costs, anyway.
Actually the the healthiest Americans are the 7th day Adventists and they live long and healthy lives and they are lean. Being overweight does increase health risks and costs.
As to medical malpractice I can tell you what a lawyer friend told me. He will not do medical malpractice because cases are difficult to prove and very expensive to pursue. Frivolous cases get thrown out and if a lawyer brings frivolous cases they can be disbarred.
There are about 700,000 doctors in the US. They collectively pay 2 billion for medical malpractice insurance. They make 200 billion dollars worth of errors.
If a doctor gets sued and loses he personally loses nothing. Most doctors are LLCs Limited Liability Corporations. The corporation file bankruptcy and the doctor hides the money. If he loses his license which is rare he can move to another state.
Big pharma is even more criminal than the banks. They own the FDA. That is why there are so many deadly drugs.
Obesity is a huge boon to the medical industry. They want people to be fat and sick. The lemmings are obliging them.
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