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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 12:49 am |
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It works! When Singapore stigmatized obesity in a get tough program they lowered their obesity rate.
Ridicule is the subjection of someone or something to mockery and derision. In this case we ridicule the behaviors (sloth and gluttony) beliefs and and attitudes of fatlings that keep them fat. I know that the politically correct and the pathetic bleeding hearts will wuss out and cry foul but ridicule works.
Get a tooth pulled hurts. A child will kick and scream on the way to the dentist but if the parent doesn't lay down the law the jaw will get infected and they kid could die. Gluttony is a lot more serious and insidious than a bad tooth and it affects everyone.
If you have a fat spouse and you are sick of it don't mince words because in the long run you are not helping him/her. If you are married to a sweat hog  you have every right to complain and they have no right to disrespect you by being a glutton and cheating on you with food. Truth before harmony! Your feelings are valid. It is unhealthy to segregate your thoughts and words from your honest emotions. If you are a woman and your hubby is a nasty lummox and if the words "Get off me, you make me sick" come to mind, say it.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 02:46 am |
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You've said yourself clothes shouldn't be made above women's size 6. So should every woman above size 6 be rideculed?
If they're big enough to cost the medical system, take up two seats, etc they're usually morbidly obese. What are you going to do, walk up to them, pop their scooter tire and say"Hey, you're not killing yourself fast enough, and it's an inconvenience to me"?
Call me a bleeding heart, but the hatred people pour out on morbidly obese people is jut unnecessary cruelty. How many of them are too far gone, both age and weight wise? It doesn't eed to make them a lightning rod for what people don't like and fear about themselves.
Now if you want to catch the ones you can, focus on the young "BBW's" shopping Torrid.
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MichelleP
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 08:55 am |
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JSABD said: That would depend on how tall they are. Also the fatter the more ridicule their will need.
I may revise base it on BMI. 18 - 20 BMI should be treated like goddesses to make up for all catty remarks they get from jealous fat girls. 20 - 22 should get no special treatment. When they hit 23 then they should face some mild ridicule especially if they are blubbery.
Here's an example of the weight that would go along with the above mentioned BMI's.
A 5'8" female with a BMI of 18-20 would weigh between 116 and 134 pounds. (goddess status) With a BMI of 20-22 she would weigh between 135 and 147 pounds.(no special treatment) With a BMI of 23 she would weigh between 148 and 154 pounds.(should be ridiculed)
Use the calculator here at CPH to figure the weight that would go along with those BMI's for your own height. Most of you will see how ridiculous J's comments are.
Last edited on 28 Sep 2011 08:58 am by MichelleP
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Steampunk
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 09:03 am |
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 01:53 pm |
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Michelle, I'm too amused by the potential results of this to be offended, especially if he does it when there's alcohol involved. I've seen enough you tube videos to see how it turns out!
Now if a spouse acts like Js recommended...just how likely is it the once fat spouse would stick around once they lose the weight? Admitting that you're not attracted anymore hurts enough, you don't need to make your spouse your own personal whipping boy. Lets face it, once you have licence to verbally abuse somebody, and seem to enjoy doing it, it's going to become a habit. What's that going to make you if you get your kicks tearing down someone else? Oh right, a bully.
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 05:36 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: Michelle, I'm too amused by the potential results of this to be offended, especially if he does it when there's alcohol involved. I've seen enough you tube videos to see how it turns out!
Now if a spouse acts like Js recommended...just how likely is it the once fat spouse would stick around once they lose the weight? Admitting that you're not attracted anymore hurts enough, you don't need to make your spouse your own personal whipping boy. Lets face it, once you have licence to verbally abuse somebody, and seem to enjoy doing it, it's going to become a habit. What's that going to make you if you get your kicks tearing down someone else? Oh right, a bully.
Finding a fat spouse unattractive is not something the lean spouse chooses. It's a natural reaction and not expressing it is wrong.
It's not a matter of beating up on the fat and uncaring spouse. It's confronting their inconsiderate and disrespectful behavior without mincing words and in no uncertain terms.
The abuser is the fat spouse. A normal reaction to someone who is hurting you is to hurt them back so that they will stop and maybe get an idea what it is like to be abused.
As you know, from the MFS site most of the lean and responsible spouses are very apologetic about being grossed out by the fat spouse. Men are real wimps when it comes to confronting a fat and gluttonous wife. They look for suggestions on how to coax her into eating right and getting exercise. Lean wives are far more likely to make their feeling known to that fat boy hubby.
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 05:54 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: JSABD said: That would depend on how tall they are. Also the fatter the more ridicule their will need.
I may revise base it on BMI. 18 - 20 BMI should be treated like goddesses to make up for all catty remarks they get from jealous fat girls. 20 - 22 should get no special treatment. When they hit 23 then they should face some mild ridicule especially if they are blubbery.
Here's an example of the weight that would go along with the above mentioned BMI's.
A 5'8" female with a BMI of 18-20 would weigh between 116 and 134 pounds. (goddess status) With a BMI of 20-22 she would weigh between 135 and 147 pounds.(no special treatment) With a BMI of 23 she would weigh between 148 and 154 pounds.(should be ridiculed)
Use the calculator here at CPH to figure the weight that would go along with those BMI's for your own height. Most of you will see how ridiculous J's comments are.
Why not? By Japanese and Singapore standard a 23 BMI is overweight. As we know Japan and Singapore and a low obesity rate and Asian women are smokin hot.
You fat girls would be wise to print this picture and put it on the fridge. This is the kind of woman men want to see and what you fat girls should want to be.
IMO White, Black and Asian women are equally attractive but the reason Black men go for White and Asian women is because of the high obesity rate among Black women. The Obesity rate among White women is higher than Asian women and that's why White men go for Asian women over White women. There are other factors such as behavior. Asian women are more civilized and demure.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 06:06 pm |
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"confronting their inconsiderate and disrespectful behavior without mincing words and in no uncertain terms."
Absolutely.That's behavior. And unless someone's a raging food addict, it's just loving to say "Honey, I don't think that large fries is a good idea" So buy all means , bash away at the behavior. Toss the little Debbies and the other carp. Take over the grocery shopping if you need to.
As a matter of fact I even agree with you when it comes to staying below a calorie percentage. I may experiment with the details, but that's just because I'm a geek. At least it's simple: Stay under X number of calories per day, make it healthy. But as long as someone follows the guidelines, stay out of it and let them work it out.
I'm not even saying that you have to give out "atta boys", but if someone modifies their behavior, any slams are just going to cause resentment. If they don't go off their diet as a way of saying "forget you" , there's a pretty high probability they'll strike back some other way. I'd suggest hiding the credit card if you even think of acting like this.Last edited on 28 Sep 2011 06:10 pm by Tankgirl
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 08:12 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: "confronting their inconsiderate and disrespectful behavior without mincing words and in no uncertain terms."
Absolutely.That's behavior. And unless someone's a raging food addict, it's just loving to say "Honey, I don't think that large fries is a good idea" So buy all means , bash away at the behavior. Toss the little Debbies and the other carp. Take over the grocery shopping if you need to.
As a matter of fact I even agree with you when it comes to staying below a calorie percentage. I may experiment with the details, but that's just because I'm a geek. At least it's simple: Stay under X number of calories per day, make it healthy. But as long as someone follows the guidelines, stay out of it and let them work it out.
I'm not even saying that you have to give out "atta boys", but if someone modifies their behavior, any slams are just going to cause resentment. If they don't go off their diet as a way of saying "forget you" , there's a pretty high probability they'll strike back some other way. I'd suggest hiding the credit card if you even think of acting like this.
The resentment on the part of the lean person is legit. Like any other "addict" or wrong doer needs to own their behavior and sometimes you have to spell it out for them and hurting their phony feelings is part of the process.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 29 Sep 2011 02:44 am |
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hmmm I'll stick to my T2 pics of Linda Hamilton, kthanks.
And by the way, why are the men getting a pass, again? If I'm a target for ridecule if I'm above Kate Winselt's weight, does this mean I can expect hub to look like Kurt Russell? excuse me.....need drool mop ROFL.
Oh yeah right- fat people don't have feelings, just like they don't seem to have heads, like in all those "headless fatty "stock photos
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JSABD
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Posted: 12 Oct 2011 08:16 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: hmmm I'll stick to my T2 pics of Linda Hamilton, kthanks.
And by the way, why are the men getting a pass, again? If I'm a target for ridecule if I'm above Kate Winselt's weight, does this mean I can expect hub to look like Kurt Russell? excuse me.....need drool mop ROFL.
Oh yeah right- fat people don't have feelings, just like they don't seem to have heads, like in all those "headless fatty "stock photos
Men are not getting a pass.
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