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JSABD
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 02:20 am |
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Fat people  die sooner and they have more health problems. This puts a huge burden on their families but they don't seem to care.
Fat people CAN eat responsibly but they choose not to do so.
If you are fat you are chronically over eating. Some of you may have a legitimate eating disorder but 99% of you are merely greedy gluttons. Prove me wrong!
Tell me why your family means more to you than your hedonistic pleasures.
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McBalls
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 11:37 pm |
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Over 80 views and no one says a thing.
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((:O( )) ) ))~~ <-If you look closely at my drawing here, you can see a fat guy
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peering through bars.
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JSABD
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 11:49 pm |
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Maybe some of the people who read it have run out of BS and really have nothing to say in their defense. Perhaps they have wised up to the point where they see the foolishness, dishonesty and and futility in defending the indefensible. Maybe they are just a bunch of cowards.
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grangers710
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 11:51 pm |
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| Are you like 12 or what? I get you dont have any respect for fat people and you find them disgusting. WE ALL GET THAT. Get over it and how bout add something constructive to the site instead of being incredibly rude and just insulting.
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McBalls
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 11:55 pm |
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That's the idea. We have to bully you like you're twelve years old because you didn't learn the lesson and mature before. You have to take your health and weight loss journey seriously. If you aren't going to, don't read this or accept that you will be treated as a child. It's a TOUGH LOVE forum for weight loss. You're essentially being given one of the hard lessons of life for free by kind strangers. You have to cool down and look at the big picture.
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grangers710
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 11:56 pm |
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| First off, I'm not fat and am probably in better shape than either of you two clowns. There is a big difference between tough love and being an A$$. Figure that out before you guys hit puberty boys. Thanks. Last edited on 27 Sep 2011 11:57 pm by grangers710
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McBalls
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 11:58 pm |
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| Lol, peace out kthxbai.
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 12:18 am |
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grangers710 wrote: Are you like 12 or what? I get you dont have any respect for fat people and you find them disgusting. WE ALL GET THAT. Get over it and how bout add something constructive to the site instead of being incredibly rude and just insulting.
Not 12 just brutally honest.
I am asking a fair question and offering a legitimate challenge to the attitudes and behaviors of fatlings and I don't need some pathetic apologists like you causing trouble.
Here are some example of rude.
Being so fat that your blubber spills over and onto the person seated next to them and crushes them.
Being too fat to fit in a seat on a plane and demanding 2 seats for the price of one.
Caring so little about good citizenship that you get so fat that you raise the costs of health care.
Caring so little about your country that you get to fat to serve in the armed forces.
Caring so little about your kids that you feed them into premature death and countless health problem.
Get off your high horse and save your phony outrage for somebody stupid and polotically correct.
Take this pig for instance. Would you want this beef bag to have kids? Sadly there are men who would impregnate this beast. People have probably mollycoddled her for years and what good has it down.
If I had a week alone with this tub of goo I could knock the fattitude out of her. It would not be pretty but in the end she would thank me. I am not here to win any popularity contests. I don't care what you think.
You don't sound qualified to speak about this.
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MichelleP
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 01:39 am |
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JSABD wrote: Maybe some of the people who read it have run out of BS and really have nothing to say in their defense. Perhaps they have wised up to the point where they see the foolishness, dishonesty and and futility in defending the indefensible. Maybe they are just a bunch of cowards.
Or maybe people are just bored reading the same old sh*t from you.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 02:31 am |
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Michelle, you beat me to it.
You've said the same thing before, in only slightly different ways. It's not helpful, and it's just plain boring. When you go off on this, it's like one of those comedians that finds a catch phrase, Mencia for instance. At the beginning it's shocking and attention-getting but after a while it gets old. Please get some new material already.
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 02:40 am |
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MichelleP wrote: JSABD wrote: Maybe some of the people who read it have run out of BS and really have nothing to say in their defense. Perhaps they have wised up to the point where they see the foolishness, dishonesty and and futility in defending the indefensible. Maybe they are just a bunch of cowards.
Or maybe people are just bored reading the same old sh*t from you.
Maybe but I doubt it. Some things bear repeating and if honest answers are not given you keep asking until they tell the truth.
In the past month how much weight have you lost if any? If you are not losing weight then what you have to say is BS so you might want to shut up and stay on your diet. Your ignorance is not helping anyone.
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MichelleP
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 09:00 am |
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| You should know that most people at CPH think you are a joke, even the thin people.
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 06:04 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: You should know that most people at CPH think you are a joke, even the thin people.
OK fat girl, you are now a mind reader capable of reading the thoughts of others?
Since you have not lost any weight, how much have you gained?
There is quite a resemblance between Miss Piggy and your avatar.
If you want to trade insults with me, you will lose. Why not be honest since this is the TOUGH LOVE forum and tell us how much you weigh and how badly you have cheated on your diet?
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MichelleP
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Posted: 29 Sep 2011 12:15 pm |
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| No mind reading involved.
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JSABD
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Posted: 30 Sep 2011 02:55 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: No mind reading involved.
And no reality either.
Since my tenure here people who would not have normally lost weight have. They come to the Tough Love forum because all else has failed and they are sick and dying.
Just being here, YOU have an opportunity to learn how to lose weight and keep it off but all you have been is a disruption and a trouble maker but through all that we all see a cry for help. That is why you are on the Tough Love forum. Your motivations for the help you need remain unknown but like most fat girls I suspect vanity is your main motivating force. Either way the help is here if you want to accept it but don't expect me to accept to your BS and rise to your bait. You are nothing special. You are a run of the mill glutton who is in denial. You can change that and we can help.
So MichelleP, you are welcome to come here and snipe but you are also welcome to participate in a positive manner. Nobody will turn their back on you. We are here to help but do not expect not to be called on your self defeating and self destructive talk and attitudes.
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MichelleP
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Posted: 1 Oct 2011 05:08 pm |
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JSABD wrote:
Since my tenure here people who would not have normally lost weight have. They come to the Tough Love forum because all else has failed and they are sick and dying.
And yet we've still not heard from all those people who you claim to be successful with..
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JSABD
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Posted: 12 Oct 2011 04:07 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: JSABD wrote:
Since my tenure here people who would not have normally lost weight have. They come to the Tough Love forum because all else has failed and they are sick and dying.
And yet we've still not heard from all those people who you claim to be successful with..
Maybe you should ask Tankgirl and Bamagirl about that. They are becoming slender and fit women. YOU are still a fat girl and you lie. You are probably a fat acceptance troll who is here to discourage people and attack me because I have exposed you fat acceptance clowns for the farce that it is.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 12 Oct 2011 04:21 pm |
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| Wait a min - yes I use your advice but Sparkpeople calorie allowance is pretty similar. I pick what I can from whatever sources are available. I would lose weight with or without you.
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JSABD
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Posted: 12 Oct 2011 08:32 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: Wait a min - yes I use your advice but Sparkpeople calorie allowance is pretty similar. I pick what I can from whatever sources are available. I would lose weight with or without you.
Perhaps but you are not a run of the mill glutton and you think. You admit your gluttony. It's not only about the weight loss plan, it's sticking to it. There are plans that I endorse. My eating plan is the best because it allows the most flexibility but Pritikin, Richard Simmons, Ornish, Weight Watchers ect.. are all nutritionally safe and sound but glutton will not adhere to them.
I suspect that I helped you a lot. You had some screwy ideas and I challenged you on them. Like most dieters you too had a problem with adherence and that is my area of expertise. You still have some fattitude and you are not out of the woods yet. Time will tell.
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MichelleP
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Posted: 13 Oct 2011 07:54 am |
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You once said that you would have at least one success story here every week and we are not seeing that.
Again with the fat acceptance troll #%@&!? - you truly are paranoid.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 13 Oct 2011 08:10 am |
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| He stepped on a nerve when he started taking credit for my weight loss- I'd lost 100 before the experiment started, and only started it to see what I could pass on to my friend. I give him credit for his ideas but I read health information from everyone from Mark Sisson to Joel Fuhman and everything in between. So when it comes to him taking credit for anything more than good information: Attached Image (viewed 4230 times):
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MichelleP
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Posted: 13 Oct 2011 09:54 am |
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Your 100 pound loss is fabulous Tankwoman, but you already know that. You can and will reach your goals!
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artistjohn
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Posted: 13 Oct 2011 11:07 am |
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I think it was Woody Allen who said "Anger causes cancer"
JSABD you sound pretty angry to me.
My first and last post on this topic
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Nir
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Posted: 14 Oct 2011 10:21 am |
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Yesterday I went to an NA meeting. It is a closed meeting and I've "forgotten" to tell them that I'm not a drug addict. The meeting secretary resigned and the position is available, somebody asked me if I was volunteering for this service position and I shrieked away.
1) I do a bunch of "service" on this website, principally because of the self-interest, I want it to keep going, otherwise I do seem to be a bit 'shy' on the service front in other contexts
2) I think that an NA meeting should ideally be run by some people who are personally invested in the cause, I know I am only a visitor to their meeting.
Viewed with these specs, JSABD's 'obsessive interest' in the subject of the obesity problem has challenged my thinking (because he has not been obese). Whilst I remain to be convinced that the "shock them with abuse" flavour he wants to bring is the most effective, it is good to see someone dedicated to a cause and wanting to providing 'service'.
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JSABD
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Posted: 14 Oct 2011 01:54 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: He stepped on a nerve when he started taking credit for my weight loss- I'd lost 100 before the experiment started, and only started it to see what I could pass on to my friend. I give him credit for his ideas but I read health information from everyone from Mark Sisson to Joel Fuhman and everything in between. So when it comes to him taking credit for anything more than good information:
Time will tell Tank. If in two years you are weight stable and at a health BMI we will know.
The nutritional part is easy. There are plans as good as Fuhrman's. Susan Powter put it beautifully when she said, 'If it grows in the ground eat it if it comes out of a package don't eat it. There you go, now you're a nutritionist."
When people's pantries are free of corporate food they will have a tough time getting fat. Let's be honest. Most people really suck and they don't care. They want instant gratification and they don't care who it hurts in the long run.
If you are fat it is because you have chosen to eat too many calories. You have chosen to do what you know is wrong. From a catholic perspective you are committing mortal sin. You know it is wrong but you do it anyway. When you buy food you buy glutton food. When you eat you eat glutton food. That make you a glutton.
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JSABD
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Posted: 14 Oct 2011 02:28 pm |
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Nir wrote: Yesterday I went to an NA meeting. It is a closed meeting and I've "forgotten" to tell them that I'm not a drag addict. The meeting secretary resigned and the position is available, somebody asked me if I was volunteering for this service position and I shrieked away.
1) I do a bunch of "service" on this website, principally because of the self-interest, I want it to keep going, otherwise I do seem to be a bit 'shy' on the service front in other contexts
2) I think that an NA meeting should ideally be run by some people who are personally invested in the cause, I know I am only a visitor to their meeting.
Viewed with these specs, JSABD's 'obsessive interest' in the subject of the obesity problem has challenged my thinking (because he has not been obese). Whilst I remain to be convinced that the "shock them with abuse" flavour he wants to bring is the most effective, it is good to see someone dedicated to a cause and wanting to providing 'service'.
Let's talk success rate. I hear that NA and AA have a 2% success rate. I know that Singapore has a high success rate and they stigmatize obesity and gluttony.
Comparing drug and alcohol abuse with gluttony is comparing apples and oranges. Alcoholism and drug abuse is a disease. Gluttony is in most cases a moral failing.
As to an obsessive interest that's just BS. I cure gluttons and I save lives. Five months months ago a woman came to be who was 300+. She has lost 60 pounds so far. She reports that now she can play with her kids, she is off her diabetes meds and she no longer needs her C-PAP machine. I think she's pretty happy about my obsession and so are her kid and husband. Had it not been for me and my interventional approach she would remain fat and die before her time. Like the dieters who show up here on CPH, she was digging herself an early grave with her mouth. Now she isn't.
If you are a glutton I am not going to consider your feeling or show you much respect. Why should I? You don't respect your body or your loved ones. You are not a good citizen. You place your hedonistic pleasures above all else. What about you is it that I should respect?
Air Tran and SW Airlines is now requiring gluttons to pay for two seats. Fatties are whining that it is humiliating. I am glad it is humiliating because humiliation causes humility.
I want fatlings to feel bad about their behavior. They need to know that the fat they have accumulated is not the enemy. They are their own worst enemy.
They need to know that it is NEVER a matter of CAN'T but ALWAYS a matter of WON'T.
You can attack the messenger all you want but that will not change reality or cause anyone to reform their gluttonous ways.
We can continue to overly complicate the issue with theories and whining about how mean I am at get nowhere or we can say that there is not valid reason for being fat and gluttonous and the solution is as simple as eating less and moving more. We can do that or we can keep inventing clever lies and salving ourselves into an early grave.
You fatties need to decide. Do you want somebody to wipe your butt and kiss your forehead as you die at your own hand or do you want someone to kick your butt and save your life? If you want to die by food then do it quickly but STFU!
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 14 Oct 2011 11:21 pm |
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f you are fat it is because you have chosen to eat too many calories. You have chosen to do what you know is wrong. From a catholic perspective you are committing mortal sin. You know it is wrong but you do it anyway. When you buy food you buy glutton food. When you eat you eat glutton food. That make you a glutton.
So, do you see the way you talk to fat people as a form of punishment for gluttony, to only end once they meet an ideal standard of fitness/weight?
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 15 Oct 2011 04:23 am |
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As far as the "Do you want somebody to..." it's neither.
You mentioned avoiding other gluttons under "beware the saboteur".That seems to have happened on it's own.I've heard people that have quit smoking say the same thing I miss the gossip, jokes and commiseration more than I ever missed the food! As far as making healthier friends that's not likely to happen until spring when the bike league starts up again- who wants to slow down and ruin a workout to chat?
So here I am, basically just looking for a place to hang out, share tips, ideas, weight loss humor (yes, it exists) that kind of thing.
Js I know you've never been fat , so you don't what it's like to suddenly find new abilities without even thinking about it.When I came here I was also looking to meet up with people that lost a lot of weight, to find out what life is like "on the other side of the dress rack" , and how they handled it.I think at least some of the people that lose a lot of weight, and then put it back on are more comfortable fat for some reason, and don't know how to handle life any other way. I don't want to be one of those people, so If i could at least hear from others what the road ahead is like (as far as getting smaller), at least I'd feel prepared in some way.
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MichelleP
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Posted: 15 Oct 2011 06:29 pm |
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JSABD
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Posted: 16 Oct 2011 12:15 am |
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MichelleP wrote: Tankgirl wrote: .When I came here I was also looking to meet up with people that lost a lot of weight, to find out what life is like "on the other side of the dress rack" , and how they handled it.I think at least some of the people that lose a lot of weight, and then put it back on are more comfortable fat for some reason, and don't know how to handle life any other way. I don't want to be one of those people, so If i could at least hear from others what the road ahead is like (as far as getting smaller), at least I'd feel prepared in some way.
Tankwoman -Just a few comments about your above statement. -Still not at my ultimate goal but I'm down about 70-80 pounds from my highest weight and have had to make adjustments to my brain being a smaller person. At one point I did gain some back but I don't believe it was because I was more comfortable being fatter because I definitely was/am not. Gaining back some weight was just pure laziness on my part. Overall for me, smaller is SO much better. I feel better in every way - physically, mentally, and emotionally. I can do so many physical things that I couldn't do as a blimp. I walk taller, I smile more, I feel more confident, I'm more outgoing, I'm more assertive, I have less pains, and so many other things. People do treat me differently now (more respectful and more accepting) and I do like it but on the other hand it annoys me some too because I feel that I'm still the same person. But in a way I'm kinda not the same person. I'm smarter and more sure of myself and I know that I'm making much better choices in life regarding food and exercise. I look better for my husband, I'm a better role model for my children and their friends, and as a nurse I'm a better role model for patients. I just feel better all around and that feeling feels better then any food tastes.
Do you think that you could have a conversation if there weren't any personal pronouns?
Are you saying that you were/are a bad role model due to your obesogenic behavior?
You still lack humility. Your pride is what made you fat in the first place.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 16 Oct 2011 08:25 am |
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I must be basackwards, for me the mechanics of weight loss are fairly easy, at least after I learned Popeye's and Ben and Jerry's never made a bad day better in the long run. That stunk for a while - went through about 6 months of "Now what?" It made sense why gastric bypass patients sometimes switch to alcohol, shopping, or other things- especially shopping.
Nowadays food is just food. I prefer the stuff I eat and don't enjoy deviating. I tend to have a rabid appetite after a workout, so I save calories for that. Seems to make the recovery easier and the next day's workout more doable so something must be going right.Last edited on 16 Oct 2011 08:39 am by Tankgirl
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MichelleP
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Posted: 16 Oct 2011 02:14 pm |
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| Wrong again JS. Eating too much of the wrong foods made me fat not pride.
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JSABD
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 12:42 am |
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Tankgirl wrote: f you are fat it is because you have chosen to eat too many calories. You have chosen to do what you know is wrong. From a catholic perspective you are committing mortal sin. You know it is wrong but you do it anyway. When you buy food you buy glutton food. When you eat you eat glutton food. That make you a glutton.
So, do you see the way you talk to fat people as a form of punishment for gluttony, to only end once they meet an ideal standard of fitness/weight?
Grow up!
When their behavior changes they will reach the correct weight. If they languish and yo yo for years then they haven't behaved and they are going to hear it. When the get to the right weight and maintain it then they get some respect. Respect is earned.
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JSABD
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 12:49 am |
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MichelleP wrote: Wrong again JS. Eating too much of the wrong foods made me fat not pride.
If you had humility you would not have behaved like a glutton and you would not have done it chronically. Stop playing the victim Michelle.
Your pride and you excessive self indulgence shows in your blubber. You are not the victim Michelle. You enjoy playing the victim but in truth you are a run of the mill fat girl. If I am wrong tell what is so special about you. Explain why you are not merely a run of the mill glutton.
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Steampunk
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 01:09 am |
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"Do you think that you could have a conversation if there weren't any personal pronouns?"
This isn't a technical paper...
Weight loss is personal whether you have other reasons as well or not. You ask someone why they want to lose weight, that generally requires the usage of those words. What you are, more or less, suggesting is that someone live their life for someone else. That's bad advice, plain and simple. Boyfriends/girlfriends and, yes, even spouses come and go. Your body is permanent until you die. How it looks, how it feels, is something you live with every day so a person saying, "I feel bad. I want to lose weight so I can feel good." is only sensible.
EDIT: Also, saying that pride makes people fat is foolish. What makes a person unhealthy is different for each person. For me, it was horrible depression that not only made me gain weight but also made my nearly perfect GPA drop. I'm hardly proud of either thing and I wouldn't take anyone seriously who suggested that I am/was. I don't know what happened with Michelle but telling someone how they feel is childish.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 01:18 am |
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When their behavior changes they will reach the correct weight. If they languish and yo yo for years then they haven't behaved and they are going to hear it. When the get to the right weight and maintain it then they get some respect. Respect is earned.
Talking more about your general strategy here- though I'd really love to know if you talk to people like this in public.
BTW : you can get that book published on your own now through Amazon Kindle, and the royalty rates are far higher than what you'd get through traditional publishing. I for one would like to see it.
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MichelleP
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 10:13 am |
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| Doesn't do any good to tell you that you're wrong JS, but you are. Playing the victim? Complete rubbish and I don't feel the need to explain anything to you.
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artistjohn
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 02:08 pm |
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Nir wrote: Yesterday I went to an NA meeting. It is a closed meeting and I've "forgotten" to tell them that I'm not a drug addict. The meeting secretary resigned and the position is available, somebody asked me if I was volunteering for this service position and I shrieked away.
1) I do a bunch of "service" on this website, principally because of the self-interest, I want it to keep going, otherwise I do seem to be a bit 'shy' on the service front in other contexts
2) I think that an NA meeting should ideally be run by some people who are personally invested in the cause, I know I am only a visitor to their meeting.
Viewed with these specs, JSABD's 'obsessive interest' in the subject of the obesity problem has challenged my thinking (because he has not been obese). Whilst I remain to be convinced that the "shock them with abuse" flavour he wants to bring is the most effective, it is good to see someone dedicated to a cause and wanting to providing 'service'."
Nir are you saying you approve of this #%@&! and JSABD is providing a service?
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JSABD
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 04:29 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: Doesn't do any good to tell you that you're wrong JS, but you are. Playing the victim? Complete rubbish and I don't feel the need to explain anything to you.
Michelle look in the mirror and step on the scale. YOU ARE FAT!
You made yourself fat. You have been fat for a very long time. Based on your track record you will be a fat girl your whole life.
Were you born a fat girl, or did you work at it your whole life?
Either way it worked out fine, 'cause you're an fat girl alright.
Yes you're a fat girl, and don't you try to blame it on me,
you deserve all the credit, you're a fat girl tonight.
You were a fat girl yesterday, you're a fat girl tonight,
and I've got a feeling, you'll be a fat girl the rest of your life.
And I was talking to your mother, just the other night,
I told her you were a fat girl, she said "yes, I think you're right".
And all your friends are fat girls, 'cause you've known them your whole life,
and somebody told me, you are a fat girl of a wife.
It's pretty simple Michelle, you need to move more and eat less. You won't do that.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 05:36 pm |
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| Oh so that's what fattitude is - Any disagreement with JS. You know for someone that's so anti-religion,your methods come off sometimes like a wannabe cult leader - any disagreement with you is a defined as a moral failing.
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JSABD
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 06:29 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: Oh so that's what fattitude is - Any disagreement with JS. You know for someone that's so anti-religion,your methods come off sometimes like a wannabe cult leader - any disagreement with you is a defined as a moral failing.
One part of fattitude amongst girls if the drama queen syndrome.
I am not anti religion. I am anti Christian and Muslim. Reading the Bible and Koran tends to make one that way.
If being fat and making excuses is against what I say then it is a moral failing. Getting fat and staying fat is a moral failing.
I don't need a book written by a bunch of smelly shepherds and con men to tell be what is right or wrong. Are you going to start calling me Hitler too? I know that MeMe Roth hears that a lot.
Does it bother you that Mrs JSABD is a hottie?
Do you think that maybe your hubby is not as manly as me for tolerating your years of gluttony?
My methods? Tell me what my methods are.
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Nir
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 06:31 pm |
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artistjohn wrote:
Nir are you saying you approve of this #%@&! and JSABD is providing a service?
basically yes I do
however it is definitely a 'niche' service
incidentally this forum is generally only available to the newer members of the forum and to other 'older' members on an 'opt in' basis i.e. if they specifically ask to see it. The fact that you can even see the forum is a pure accident derived from your volunteering to be Moderator. Let me know if you want to 'opt out' and you will not have to see it.
I commend JSABD for wanting to spend more minutes in the day on this forum than I presently want to.
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JSABD
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 06:40 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: Doesn't do any good to tell you that you're wrong JS, but you are. Playing the victim? Complete rubbish and I don't feel the need to explain anything to you.
Michelle, you are fat so when it comes to taking care of your body you are wrong.
I am not fat so when it comes to taking care of my body I am right. What about that don't you understand?
You can't explain anything because if you did you would be left with the inescapable reality that you are fat and that it was all your fault. You also know that you can lose weight and keep it off by behaving like a moral individual. You choose not to behave in a moral manner when it comes to your own human ecology. That's reality MichelleP and you know it. All you can do is attack the messenger because you can't refute the message.
Try a little honesty and acknowledge the fact that you are a glutton. Right now you are probably a white knuckle glutton and when you fall off the wagon you will cushion the fall with a big pile of Hostess Twinkies. You know I'm right.
Folks, this is what we call spitting in the soup.
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Steampunk
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 06:40 pm |
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"I commend JSABD for wanting to spend more minutes in the day on this forum than I presently want to."
That's assuming his intentions are actually positive, right?
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 07:12 pm |
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Are you going to start calling me Hitler too? I know that MeMe Roth hears that a lot.
LOl no, I'm aware of Godwin's Law. When someone disagrees with you, or instead of answering questions that are relevant, you accuse them of fattitude. You've accused Nir, as a matter of fact. It's just your nice little vague term that you slap on any idea that doesn't fit with yours.
Does it bother you that Mrs JSABD is a hottie? Nope, don't care.
My methods? Tell me what my methods are.
In Ridiculing Fat People:
"Ridicule is the subjection of someone or something to mockery and derision. In this case we ridicule the behaviors (sloth and gluttony) beliefs and and attitudes of fatlings that keep them fat. I know that the politically correct and the pathetic bleeding hearts will wuss out and cry foul but ridicule works."
In "Advice for Lean Spouses"
For the man. If you are still able to have sex with your wife tell her that the only way you can is by thinking about other women. Fat girls hate that. All women hate that. Don't be mean about. Tell her you would rather masturbate.
For the woman: Tell him you can't wait for it to end. Tell him that man titties and bellies turn you off. Tell him that you fake orgasms. Tell him that men hit on you and that you are tempted to get with a real man with a real man's body"
Of course that poem you just wrote is a good example. Pretty hypocritical that one minute you tell me to grow up, then respond to someone else with playground taunts.
Do you think that maybe your hubby is not as manly as me for tolerating your years of gluttony?
manly is not the word I'd use. As far as tolerating, you sure spend a lot of time looking for obese people.Last edited on 18 Oct 2011 07:51 pm by Tankgirl
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MichelleP
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 08:00 pm |
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"Of course that poem you just wrote is a good example. Pretty hypocritical that one minute you tell me to grow up, then respond to someone else with playground taunts"
Exactly Tankwoman!
And still no success stories JS!
You can spit in the soup all you want. We all see you for what you really are, you may or not be fat, that has never been proven, but you are still a pig.
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JSABD
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 08:22 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: Are you going to start calling me Hitler too? I know that MeMe Roth hears that a lot.
LOl no, I'm aware of Godwin's Law. When someone disagrees with you instead of answering questions that are relevant, you accuse them of fattitude. You've accused Nir, as a matter of fact. It's just your nice little vague term that you slap on any idea that doesn't fit with yours.
All of that is extremely dishonest. I don't accuse. I have defined fattititude and I merely report on what fits who. I admire Nir and Nir is one of these rare exceptions who was not fat do to fattitude. Nir has/had a real eating disorder which is a lot tougher to deal with than run of the mill gluttony and Nir is dealing with it with brains and courage. So when I hear gluttons blaming their blubber on an ED I think of Nir and others with real eating disorders.
Does it bother you that Mrs JSABD is a hottie? Nope, don't care.
Right! LOL Deep down you know that he beats of to porn and would love to have a slender wife. He tolerates you. He won't give you an honest answer because he does not want to deal with the fat girl histrionics.
My methods? Tell me what my methods are.
In Ridiculing Fat People:
"Ridicule is the subjection of someone or something to mockery and derision. In this case we ridicule the behaviors (sloth and gluttony) beliefs and and attitudes of fatlings that keep them fat. I know that the politically correct and the pathetic bleeding hearts will wuss out and cry foul but ridicule works."
In "Advice for Lean Spouses"
For the man. If you are still able to have sex with your wife tell her that the only way you can is by thinking about other women. Fat girls hate that. All women hate that. Don't be mean about. Tell her you would rather masturbate.
For the woman: Tell him you can't wait for it to end. Tell him that man titties and bellies turn you off. Tell him that you fake orgasms. Tell him that men hit on you and that you are tempted to get with a real man with a real man's body"
Of course that poem you just wrote is a good example. Pretty hypocritical that one minute you tell me to grow up, then respond to someone else with playground taunts.
Do you think that maybe your hubby is not as manly as me for tolerating your years of gluttony?
manly is not the word I'd use. As far as tolerating, you sure spend a lot of time looking for obese people. Here are my methods:
Ask the fatling why they think that and others are fat and allow them to see that they are no different than any other glutton.
Ask them their reasons for why they want to lose weight and after they list a bunch of selfish reasons I ask them for some altruistic ones. Then they think.
I help them design a eating plan customized for them and I ask them for all the reasons for why they can't follow it. There never are any.
As to your hubby: He settled. He tolerated your gluttony and obesity. Maybe you really want a man with some backbone.
As to the spousal advice you say I present: It's all honest. When that fat wife asks hubby, "Do you think I'm fat?" she already knows she's fat. She is really telling the poor sap to accept her gluttony and disrespect for him.
As to the lean wife married to a fat boy. When a man has sex with a woman who is not turned on sexually it's pretty close rape. I cannot imagine how horrible it most be for a woman to allow some sweaty stinky lummox to do his business on her. I would not want some fat boy crushing my sister.
Humiliation and Ridicule Work
Pride is the master sin that leads to all others. You and most other fatties need to learn and practice humility. In Nir's case it was just the opposite. His REAL ED was beating him down. He was a humble man when he was chubby and he is a humble man now -- and he's not a liar.
Ridiculous notions need ridicule.
Fatties will not answer this question. Explain why it's not a matter of won't and list all the valid reasons for why you can't eat the correct amount of calories??
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MichelleP
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 08:32 pm |
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JSABD
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 08:44 pm |
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MichelleP wrote: "Of course that poem you just wrote is a good example. Pretty hypocritical that one minute you tell me to grow up, then respond to someone else with playground taunts"
Exactly Tankwoman!
And still no success stories JS!
You can spit in the soup all you want. We all see you for what you really are, you may or not be fat, that has never been proven, but you are still a pig.
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I have a whole lot of success stories and I posted some here. The people who come to me really want to lose weight and reform. There is no room for saboteurs with my coaching. The problem with forums like this is that most of the people who come here are gluttons and saboteurs.
My track record is far far better than the diet industry.
Michelle, you know what you need to do and you know you are not doing it. That being said, please take up smoking if you are hellbent on killing yourself please do it quickly.
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 18 Oct 2011 08:51 pm |
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Would he love to have a slender wife? of course. Nobody but a fetishist would want anything less. I'm working towards that.
I know he settled, and I got lucky . Looks wise he is out of my league and I know that. I also know that means I've got a lot of work to do, and I am willing to do that.
I said I don't care what your wife looks like.
It still doesn't answer what business it is to anyone else outside of family.Last edited on 18 Oct 2011 08:53 pm by Tankgirl
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