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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 08:25 pm |
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Before I start I will preface this with a brief explanation of how the scientific method works. Sometimes a theory or a premise is proposed and that theory or premise either get proved to disproved to within what is considered the current scientific certainty. Another and more common method is observation. You observe something like the stars, plants or animals and you draw a conclusion after intense and thorough observation. We can all agree on the fact that birds fly, our sun is a star and that most plants grow using photosynthesis.
For a long time my team and I have observed fatlings in their environment. We watch their behaviors. We see what the put in their shopping carts. We see that they avoid. We see how they interact with normals and others of their kind.
Childhood obesity is a travesty. The biggest shame is that it is preventable but those few of us leanlings that are left will not confront the uncaring mother who is irresponsible when in come to providing her children the nutrition they require to be healthy. It starts when she squirt the kid out of her toxic womb.
We have observed maybe 2000 mothers with infants and toddlers and here is what we found. When the babies of normal mothers get fussy or cry the normal mother is more likely to pick that baby up and comfort it and check first to see if something is wrong. Fat mothers are far more likely to offer the child a bottle, pacifier or food to quell their fussiness.
Now for the theory. We theorize that doing that teaches the child that food is love and that food solves problems. It is like the child who experiences corporal punishment and see violence as a solution to all problems.
Here is the bottom line. Fat mothers are bad mothers. They need to put on their adult pants and do right by their kids.
Last edited on 28 Jul 2011 08:42 pm by JSABD
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TheAntiTroll
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 08:28 pm |
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| Aristotle observed the sky for a long time and concluded that earth was the center of the universe and that the astral stars "heavens" revolve around the earth, including the sun. Is this observation scientific method?
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 08:40 pm |
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We theorize that doing that teaches the child that food is love and that food solves problems.
That behavior is not exclusive to fat parents.
It starts when she squirt the kid out of her toxic womb.
If a mother is eating garbage, wouldn't the damage start at least in utero, and possibly before conception?
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 08:45 pm |
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TheAntiTroll wrote: Aristotle observed the sky for a long time and concluded that earth was the center of the universe and that the astral stars "heavens" revolve around the earth, including the sun. Is this observation scientific method?
And Galileo through observation and using better tools tools figured out that the earth orbits the sun.
Both used the scientific method and like me Galileo got it right.
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 08:53 pm |
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Tankgirl wrote: We theorize that doing that teaches the child that food is love and that food solves problems.
That behavior is not exclusive to fat parents.
It starts when she squirt the kid out of her toxic womb.
If a mother is eating garbage, wouldn't the damage start at least in utero, and possibly before conception?
I suspect you are right. It is so unfair to that child. I have seen mothers smoke and drink and it makes me want to blow a gasket.
The world is a tough place and to my way of thinking it is a parent's responsibility to prepare their kid for the world. There is a ton of studies that show that fat mothers are fat more likely to have C-section and are more like to have a baby with birth defects. Obese and morbidly obese mothers have high risk pregnancies.
When you see the short bus and the kids getting off it most of the moms greeting that bus are fat.
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TheAntiTroll
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 09:30 pm |
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| How do you know you're Galileo and not Aristotle
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JSABD
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 11:30 pm |
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TheAntiTroll wrote: How do you know you're Galileo and not Aristotle
Because I got it right and Galileo was lied about by a cult called the Catholic church. We can get to heaven without the pope but we could have never gotten to the moon without Galileo. Right now the FA crowd thinks the earth is flat and the rest of the gravitationally challenged thinks the sun orbits the earth.
I got it right and I have proven it many times and if Puffs Plus will take the challenge I will prove it with her in front of everyone who reads this forum.
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McBalls
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 11:47 pm |
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Totally agree. In many ways, they really are bad mothers. Food was the solution to everything in my house growing up, and the centerpiece of every family event.
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JSABD
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 02:24 am |
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McBalls wrote: Totally agree. In many ways, they really are bad mothers. Food was the solution to everything in my house growing up, and the centerpiece of every family event.
We have become a food centric society. To get people to turn out for an event there has to be food. Coffee and pasties will be served....
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Tankgirl
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 04:18 am |
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| That was the first thing my folks learned when they started working with seniors. No food, no attendance!
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JSABD
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 03:56 pm |
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Eating is often a social event and I think that's OK but nowadays a lot of families sit and eat in front of the TV. If people are around the dinner table they will be talking and shoveling less food in their mouth rather than eating mindlessly while watching some mindless slop on TV.
If mom is at the table monitoring what the kids are eating and dishing up proper portion sizes and limiting deserts she will establish in the good eating habits but bad moms cna dads can't be bothered.
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Florista
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Posted: 6 Aug 2011 01:53 pm |
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| First time hearing something like this :O
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JSABD
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Posted: 6 Aug 2011 02:00 pm |
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Florista wrote: First time hearing something like this :O
This is the tough love forum. We don't sugar coat things here. Good mothers take the time to properly nourish their kids. Bad mother feed the what's ever easy and convenient.
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xam
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Posted: 29 Mar 2012 12:12 pm |
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"Fat Mothers = Bad Mothers": There may be some truth to this but for me, when a mother is not fat, it doesn't also follow that they're actually parenting their kids right. This theory is actually a case to case basis. There are fat mothers who become fat out of a medical disorder associated with the digestive system. Not because they chose unhealthy food for themselves and their family.
Whether or not one believes in this theory, the point here is that parents should be responsible enough to know and be aware of the health risks that their kids may be facing from poor nutrition and diet. These kids need all the help they can get and their parents should also be educated about this matter.
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Jetflash
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Posted: 18 Apr 2012 10:35 pm |
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| I think that what JSABD is saying is true. Of course, the term "bad mother" means different things to different people so we would have to have a working definition of what a "bad mother" really is. Is the fat bad mother = to the thin bad mother who leaves her infant in the car with the windows rolled up on 100 degree day? Are there varying degrees to what a bad mother is? Can we measure it? I might be looking a little too deep into this but I think its an important aspect of the proposed scientific method. Perhaps it should be modified to read that fat mothers teach their children to be fat (through their own habits) which is bad.
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JSABD
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Posted: 19 Apr 2012 09:23 pm |
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xam wrote: "Fat Mothers = Bad Mothers": There may be some truth to this but for me, when a mother is not fat, it doesn't also follow that they're actually parenting their kids right. This theory is actually a case to case basis. There are fat mothers who become fat out of a medical disorder associated with the digestive system. Not because they chose unhealthy food for themselves and their family.
And Mitt Romney is not the biggest liar on the planet AND the laws of physics are just a theory.
Whether or not one believes in this theory, the point here is that parents should be responsible enough to know and be aware of the health risks that their kids may be facing from poor nutrition and diet. These kids need all the help they can get and their parents should also be educated about this matter.
(COMMERCIAL LINK TO 'fat camp' WEBSITE REMOVED BY MODERATOR)
The best thing that can be done for these kids is to put them in foster homes.
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JSABD
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Posted: 19 Apr 2012 09:25 pm |
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Jetflash wrote: I think that what JSABD is saying is true. Of course, the term "bad mother" means different things to different people so we would have to have a working definition of what a "bad mother" really is. Is the fat bad mother = to the thin bad mother who leaves her infant in the car with the windows rolled up on 100 degree day? Are there varying degrees to what a bad mother is? Can we measure it? I might be looking a little too deep into this but I think its an important aspect of the proposed scientific method. Perhaps it should be modified to read that fat mothers teach their children to be fat (through their own habits) which is bad.
Thin mothers can be either good or bad but fat mothers cannot be good mothers.
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Mrs_Slowski
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Posted: 21 Apr 2012 01:33 am |
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"The world is a tough place and to my way of thinking it is a parent's responsibility to prepare their kid for the world."
Just tossing out an idea here. I'm sure it also applies to sons, but it's a lot more obvious when it comes to daughters.
"kid, this is a tough world and the sooner you learn that people judge you and make decisions on you based on your looks, the better. See how nobody wants to be friends with the fat girl? you don't want to be her, right? See how mommy always works to stay healthy slim and always wears her best outfit to pick you up and has her hair done? That shows the other parents that I'm a big deal and so are you - so they'll treat you better. People will always treat the pretty girl better and it will make things easier for you"
Can't deny the truth of it but it made me want to cringe and vomit at the same time to put it into words.
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JSABD
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Posted: 22 Apr 2012 02:44 pm |
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A parent's first responsibility is to be a good role model. There is no way a fat mother can be a good role model. The behaviors of fat mothers is atrocious.
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Ruby claire
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Posted: 25 Jun 2012 10:53 am |
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JSABD wrote:
Before I start I will preface this with a brief explanation of how the scientific method works. Sometimes a theory or a premise is proposed and that theory or premise either get proved to disproved to within what is considered the current scientific certainty. Another and more common method is observation. You observe something like the stars, plants or animals and you draw a conclusion after intense and thorough observation. We can all agree on the fact that birds fly, our sun is a star and that most plants grow using photosynthesis.
For a long time my team and I have observed fatlings in their environment. We watch their behaviors. We see what the put in their shopping carts. We see that they avoid. We see how they interact with normals and others of their kind.
Childhood obesity is a travesty. The biggest shame is that it is preventable but those few of us leanlings that are left will not confront the uncaring mother who is irresponsible when in come to providing her children the nutrition they require to be healthy. It starts when she squirt the kid out of her toxic womb.
We have observed maybe 2000 mothers with infants and toddlers and here is what we found. When the babies of normal mothers get fussy or cry the normal mother is more likely to pick that baby up and comfort it and check first to see if something is wrong.?é?á Fat mothers are far more likely to offer the child a bottle, pacifier or food to quell their fussiness.
Now for the theory. We theorize that doing that teaches the child that food is love and that food solves problems. It is like the child who experiences corporal punishment and see violence as a solution to all problems.
Here is the bottom line. Fat mothers are bad mothers.?é?á They need to put on their adult pants and do right by their kids.
Where did you got all this info from ? Could you please share the link with us .. Want to know more about it
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JSABD
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Posted: 26 Jun 2012 08:09 pm |
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Ruby claire wrote: JSABD wrote:
Before I start I will preface this with a brief explanation of how the scientific method works. Sometimes a theory or a premise is proposed and that theory or premise either get proved to disproved to within what is considered the current scientific certainty. Another and more common method is observation. You observe something like the stars, plants or animals and you draw a conclusion after intense and thorough observation. We can all agree on the fact that birds fly, our sun is a star and that most plants grow using photosynthesis.
For a long time my team and I have observed fatlings in their environment. We watch their behaviors. We see what the put in their shopping carts. We see that they avoid. We see how they interact with normals and others of their kind.
Childhood obesity is a travesty. The biggest shame is that it is preventable but those few of us leanlings that are left will not confront the uncaring mother who is irresponsible when in come to providing her children the nutrition they require to be healthy. It starts when she squirt the kid out of her toxic womb.
We have observed maybe 2000 mothers with infants and toddlers and here is what we found. When the babies of normal mothers get fussy or cry the normal mother is more likely to pick that baby up and comfort it and check first to see if something is wrong. Fat mothers are far more likely to offer the child a bottle, pacifier or food to quell their fussiness.
Now for the theory. We theorize that doing that teaches the child that food is love and that food solves problems. It is like the child who experiences corporal punishment and see violence as a solution to all problems.
Here is the bottom line. Fat mothers are bad mothers. They need to put on their adult pants and do right by their kids.
Where did you got all this info from ? Could you please share the link with us .. Want to know more about it
A google search will give you a lot of results.
Birth defects are often a result of obesity.
Fat mothers are bad mothers. This is not an opinion. It's a fact. Fat mothers feed their kids bad food.
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