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XXleoninexx
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 Posted: 29 Nov 2012 11:22 pm
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I never really thought much about my weight until high school. I'm a dancer, but none of my teachers ever made a big deal about weight. Besides, I've never been overweight and have mostly been considered "thin."

But I feel awful.

I do not feel good about my body. I want to lose weight. I've been trying for years and nothing works. And I'm not jut saying that. I exercise everyday. At least four days a week I go for over three hours with intense exercise. The other days it's at least an hour. I watch what I eat. I count calories. And still nothing. I finally lost ten pounds but then put two back on SOMEHOW. It crushed me and I'm scared to go on the scale again.

I've suffered anorexia and bulimia. In some ways I'm still suffering. I know I don't have the bone structure or the metabolism to ever be a size-0. But I'm not going for that. I just want to be happy with how I look. And I feel at this point the only way this can happen is to lose weight.

Please, any advice, tips, or commiserating stories would be very much appreciated and are very much needed. I feel so terrible and never wear anything but baggy clothes because I'm that uncomfortable in my own skin. I just don't know what to do.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. It means the world :heart:

Nir
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 Posted: 30 Nov 2012 05:54 am
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Hi I'd like to crunch your numbers for you, how many calories do you eat, what is your height and weight? (and what is your body fat percentage, if you know that?). How much more do you want to lose now?

you say you have suffered anorexia and bulimia, if you consider yourself to be 'in recovery' how long have you been in recovery?

by the way I would like to also recommend another place http://www.happyeaters.net that you might want to check out

XXleoninexx
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 Posted: 30 Nov 2012 10:44 am
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5'8"
About 141 lbs
BFP is 21% i believe

Currently eat fewer than 1200 calories a day.

I'd say I've been "in recovery" for about 4 years. But it's on an off.

Thanks so much for your reply.

Nir
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 Posted: 30 Nov 2012 11:16 am
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This is all to address the practical side.

So are you maintaining 141lb on less than 1200 calories?

and where does the loss of 10lb fit into this? over a period of how many weeks (eating about 1200 calories at that point as well?)

a person with a 'normal' metabolism would be eating about 1650 to maintain a weight of 141lb without exercise (more with exercise). a person who had been chronically dieting (or restricting) would have a more 'depressed' metabolism.

I'd like to understand how you lost those 10lb and therefore develop an opinion about your metabolism.

If your energy requirements ARE far below typical because of chronic low intake, the suggested approach is to to GRADUALLY get your body used to maintaining its weight with a combination of MORE food and LESS exercise (builing this up rather slowly over a period of weeks - perhaps each week increasing the daily intake amount by +100) and then once metabolism is relatively recovered you resume dieting to your desired goal weight (hopefully still in the healthy weight range) with relative ease (and possibly even getting there whilst eating more than 1200)

This sort of approach is written up in some detail in the Metabolic Repair Manual e-book that Leigh Peele sells.

XXleoninexx
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 Posted: 30 Nov 2012 03:05 pm
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I lost ten pounds over 8 weeks by eating ~1200 calories. Now I've gained back 2. Not exactly sure how. I talked to my doctor who told me I should be eating that much if I wanted to lose weight. But now it feels like I'm stuck at this point. I want to lose more but really I dont think I can eat less and exercise more without relapsing into an eating disorder and passing out.

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 Posted: 30 Nov 2012 09:37 pm
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Ah. I see we're talking at cross purposes. You're talking about eating less and exercising more. I was talking about eating more and exercising less (notice the difference)

If you can lose 10 (or 8) pounds over 8 weeks then clearly you can create a calorie deficit.

There is no rule that says you have to lose 1lb a week (or more). You could go for 0.75 or 0.5 pounds a week. In fact the closer we are to our end-point the less of a deficit we want in order not to lose muscle

For example you can play with this calculator http://fatlossboss.com/calculator making sure to input an activity level to reflect your typical exercise and then see the 'max fat loss without muscle loss' number it suggests (and note that as you lose weight it will recalculate as a higher number of calories still)

Last edited on 8 Feb 2013 11:01 am by Nir

XXleoninexx
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 Posted: 30 Nov 2012 09:42 pm
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I guess I'm just not sure why nothing seems to work for me. That' why this whole process seems like a struggle to me. I can't exercise less because I'm a dancer and there's a set training regimen I have to follow. And I don't know...eating more seems counter-productive to me. Am I really that wrong?

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 Posted: 2 Dec 2012 01:05 pm
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For every person there is a certain calorie deficit that is the maximum deficit for them - that it is counter productive to go beyond. If they create a deficit that is too large they will slow down their metabolism and/or lose muscle mass. An person who is more overweight/obese than you would be able to create a larger deficit and it would still be effective for them. A person leaner than you (for example my BMI is 19.3 at the moment) would have to be even more careful in terms of creating a smaller deficit.

So if you have to keep up a certain level of activity - not a real problem you would just be advised to eat a bit more so that your deficit is not too large.

The calculator I pointed out uses a "rule of 30"
at 141lb and BFP 21% it would say fat=29.61
29.61 x 30 = 888
create realistic estimate of your energy needs including all energy burned with exercise; subtract 888; don't eat less than that.

Yet we also know that 1200 is in the ballpark (might need a bit of tweaking upwards but we're not talking a massive amount) because you lost 10lb over 8 weeks, (10/8) x 7 = 875 (estimate of likely deficit created)

nosugarlosefat
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 Posted: 6 Feb 2013 05:52 pm
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Hi,

Have you thought of going gluten free? Gluten can make you fat


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