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kukalachka
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 Posted: 26 Feb 2008 04:58 pm
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I eat about one banana, and usually 2 apples per day...they are my sweet treats and snacks to keep me going throughout the day...however, ive heard that they have the "wrong sugars" and may not be aiding me in my weight loss efforts...

any clues, anyone? I would conver to other fruits but a banana with breakfast and apples throughout the day are now my regular routine and other fruits arent so much in season right now...

trimB
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 Posted: 26 Feb 2008 07:13 pm
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I like bananas and apples because they are almost always inexpensive.  Sure berries and melons are great, but QUITE costly!!  So I would say if you are still within a reasonable daily calorie total, getting protein throughout the day, and generally eating a balanced diet... then enjoy your fruits!!  So much better than other sweets or anything processed :smile:

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 Posted: 27 Feb 2008 08:40 pm
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i have actually heard that apples are quite good on the sugar level.  if you eat the skin, they are a good source of fiber and are on of the lowest fruits on the GI list. bananas have a higher calories count, but still good with vitamins and potasium.  i totally agree with trimb!  fruits are so much better for you than alternative processed junk.
oh, and i found that necterines are really tasty, especially if they re pretty firm- they almost eat lke an apple.  and in general, the cal content is slightly under 100 per piece (weigh it out to be sure).  yay for fruits!!!

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 Posted: 27 Feb 2008 08:59 pm
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Because I measure my food equally I made a list of all the fruits and their calorie count for 100 grams. I don't know why I made the list this way, I set it up to show how many grams of fruit would equal 1 calorie. Obviously the higher number is more desireable. I posted the list somewhere, it's probably in my diary. Bananas have the most calories and grapes are high too. Strawberries, grapefruit, watermelon are on the low side. I can't remember where apples fall on that list.

Like the others have said, better to eat fruit than a Snickers bar. :tongue:

EDIT: I found my list. To eat one calorie, you'd have to eat this many grams:

Lemons: 3.4 g
Limes: 3.3 g
Watermelon: 3.3 g
Grapefruit: 3.1 g
Strawberries: 3.1 g
Cantaloupe: 2.9 g
Honeydew Melon: 2.8 g
Peaches: 2.6 g
Prickly Pear Cactus: 2.4 g
Blackberries: 2.3 g
Mulberries: 2.3 g
Nectarines: 2.3 g
Cranberries: 2.2 g
Plums: 2.2 g
Apricots: 2.1 g
Oranges: 2.1 g
Pineapple: 2.1 g
Apples: 1.9 g
Raspberries: 1.9 g
Blueberries: 1.8 g
Pears: 1.7 g
Sweet Cherries: 1.6 g
Kiwi Fruit: 1.6 g
Grapes: 1.5 g
Mangos: 1.5 g
Pomegranates: 1.5 g
Bananas: 1.1 g
Coconut: 0.3 g

Last edited on 27 Feb 2008 09:07 pm by CodeMonkey

DaniMae1
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 Posted: 28 Feb 2008 08:47 am
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I don't think there are any "bad" fruits.  Bananas get a bad rap sometimes.  But they are very healthy!  Frozen berries are cheaper, and pretty good!  Frozen pineapple is awesome and way better than canned!  My favorites are canned apricots, yum, and juicy grapes.  The frozen berries make great smoothies.

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 Posted: 5 Mar 2008 12:48 pm
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Here's a tip about the sugars in banana (and this generally for most fruits as well) - the riper the fruit, the higher the sugar content. There's no such thing as a bad fruit, all fruits are good for you as long as you are getting the daily recommended serving.

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 Posted: 5 Mar 2008 06:14 pm
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I agree Fruits are excellent for you.   They are expecially great when you are in between meals and desperately need a snack.  Fruits and Veggies give you the necessary vitamins and nutrients you need when dieting and losing weight.  

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Peter
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 Posted: 16 Mar 2008 10:36 pm
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I have two reactions to this topic.

First, apples and bananas are such great foods that if you're considering there might be something better for you, you are REALLY fine-tuning your food intake. For most people, they would surely be an improvement over what else they might be eating.

Second, before I would even consider suggesting you not eat apples and bananas, I'd want to hear what else you are eating because it's hard to imagine that they are the worst foods on your list.

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kukalachka
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 Posted: 17 Mar 2008 12:06 am
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I just get worried about my fruit intake, i worry it might  too much after hearing all this about your body storing even the sugars in fruit, etc.

today, i ate one banana, 3 small granny smith apples, and 2 small oranges. seriously, is that too much sugar?

my daily diet goes something like this:

breakfast-one banana, 3/4 cups of special K on top of 1/2 cup of plain fat free yogurt and usually 2 cups of coffee

snack a few hours later-apple or orange

lunch-salad greens or spinach with 1 cup steamed veggies and 4 oz chicken fillet or tilapia fillet, maybe a piece of fruit afterwards

few hours later...either a natures valley granola bar or a fiber cracker with a little peanut butter

dinner-same thing as lunch usually, with usually a piece of fruit or maybe some progresso vegetable soup

once or twice a week i have a little treat, some ice cream or something. but i try to keep it as healthy as possible.

i try to keep the complex starches. breads, etc to a very minimum...however, some days before or after i have a heavy workout ill eat a little more.

im constantly trying to educate myself and learn more on the best way to eat for my body. theres almost nothing i fear more than regaining my poor eating habits and eating wasted calories.

i think i might give calorie cycling a try. im worried that my metabolism may have slowed down due to a lighter caloric intake for my body size. we'll see how this goes.

 

what say ye?

 

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 Posted: 17 Mar 2008 02:19 am
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When it comes to weight loss, energy balance (calories in vs calories out) is the main thing. A very small number of individuals are carb-sensitive and can only lose weight on a low-carb (and therefore low-sugar) diet, so statistically you're probably not one of them. As you yourself observe there are other much more common reasons for people to have difficulty losing weight - such as taking in too few calories causing their metabolim to adapt downwards.

Various previously-popular diets (anything from Atkins to GI) elevated the concept of Glycemic Index, warning you that fruit will elevate your blood sugar and insulin levels. Dr Fuhrman (author of Eat To Live) points out that this principally is an issue of satiety (whether you feel full or hungry) which is very much a non-issue if you principally eat healthy foods. Unless you are diabetic you shouldn't need to pay close attention to GI and your blood glucose level.

From a health point of view I have a continuom in my head, from healthiest to unhealthiest and this helps me relate fruit to other foods I might eat. Here it is: green vegetables, non-green but non-starchy vegetables, legumes, fruit, starchy vegetables, whole grains, nuts and seeds, fish and lean meat, low-fat dairy, non-lean meat, full-fat dairy and cheese, refined grain, oils and refined fat, added or refined sugars

Using my list and referring to your food intake above, I see that you do indeed include some foods that are "worse" for you than fruit (low-fat dairy, fish and lean meat, whole grains).

In my quest to minimise consumption of unhealthy calories, usually over 50% of my daily 1800 calories come from fruit. If for some reason fruit was unavailable then I would try to get those calories from vegetables (green, non-starchy and starchy), legumes and raw nuts and seeds.

Summary: unless you are diabetic or eating fruit is causing you serious difficulty in the "feeling full" stakes then fruit is a great source for your calories.

 

One final thing: in addition to the small minority of carb-sensitive people who need to restrict their fruit, the other group of people who might need to do so are very lean people who are trying to get even leaner. For example my BMI is under 20 and my body fat percentage is hovering between 10% and 12%. I recognise that if I want to go to single-digits of body fat then I may need to temporarily manipulate the macronutrients I receive from food: less carbs and more fat and protein. Right now, for me, this sacrifice is not worth it, and it will likely lead to my calories coming from less nutritious sources (see my list, above)

justinbowness15
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 Posted: 18 Mar 2008 11:44 am
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Why should diabetics not eat fruit?:yum:

Nir
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 Posted: 18 Mar 2008 11:49 am
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Well not so much that they shouldn't, but that they have to watch the effect it has on their blood sugar level.

I eat about 1000 calories and about 2 kilos of fruit every day. I don't think I would be doing that if I was a Type I diabetic.

Unless you know different...

justinbowness15
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 Posted: 18 Mar 2008 12:28 pm
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no, not at all, i understand, im a t1 and i eat too much fruit to be honest and yes you do have to watch your sugar level


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