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AshIdiot
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Posted: 13 May 2008 07:35 pm |
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OA isn't going to work for me because I don't acknowledge a higher power, not even conscious thought. Plus, I think I DO have control over myself, I just haven't found it within me to exercise that control.
Sitting there on a couch, tense as a springboard, didn't help either. We never hit the topic unless I mentioned, in passing, that I'd binged that week. Plus, those greedy...people don't deserve 165 of my dollars every week.
Talking to someone doesn't seem very logical. I can't imagine there are people out there that care enough to listen to someone else complain about being on the verge of a McDonald's run or trying not to devour a box of crackers. And what are the odds that these people are online when you need them, and not having problems of their own at that moment?
I just don't know what to do with myself. By the time I log on this forum, I'm anxious and stressed out beyond belief and I know that shows in my posts as apathy and being a terrible person. You don't tell a heroin addict to do a jigsaw puzzle instead of shooting up, why would reading a book prevent you from eating everything in the house? I can't stop myself once I've "broken a diet rule". I can't keep myself from doing this, it's driving me insane. I'm going to end up 308 pounds like my sister, I just know it. The only thing I can possibly do to avert this is cycle for about 45 minutes a day. That should prevent about 15% of my binges, right?
 sighhhhhh!
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1seekspie
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Posted: 14 May 2008 12:33 am |
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OA and other counceling problems have worked for many people, and there are many studies that prove programs like this are helpful.
Of course, despite the "immaculate studies," some people find that these programs don't help one bit . I know exactly where you're coming from. It seems like these people are purely in it for the money, and while "jigsaw puzzles" may help a handful of people stop a binge, it's not going to help everyone---not by a longshot .
The sad truth is that no one fully understands eating disorders. If we did, problems like these would be unheard of . Unfortunately, there is no "one cure fits all" for the entire population. There are bound to be those who go completely unhelped by counceling and other methods .
If you really don't feel like you're being helped by OA, get out of it.....don't waste your money! I'm so sick of doctors telling people to, "Go to counceling!" "Go to counceling!" "Take this pill." "Check back in next week."  I myself have experienced this first hand. According to the doctor, I'm a typical young woman varying between eating disorders. "Go see a councelor," she suggusted in that calm voice that says, "I know it all, you know nothing, now give me your money."
I have yet to go to a councelor. I know I'm the type of person who couldn't work with that help. Instead, I think maybe I simply need to work these issues out on my own. People don't realize how much will and stregnth they really have until they really get to using it . However, I'm not saying you should do this. If you haven't found it in you to use control, take it in very, very small steps. Or consider a prescription if it's that serious, but ONLY if it's that serious.
Anyway, I know this post is not a suggestion to a good program or anything, but I just wanted to let you know you're not alone in your opinion ! If you don't think OA works, by all means drop out . You know what can work and what can't, you just have to piece things together, and figure out what will make you happy .
~Take Care!  
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zenobia
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Posted: 14 May 2008 01:00 am |
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AshIdiot wrote: You don't tell a heroin addict to do a jigsaw puzzle instead of shooting up, why would reading a book prevent you from eating everything in the house? I can't stop myself once I've "broken a diet rule". I can't keep myself from doing this, it's driving me insane. I'm going to end up 308 pounds like my sister, I just know it. The only thing I can possibly do to avert this is cycle for about 45 minutes a day. That should prevent about 15% of my binges, right?
sighhhhhh!
what is in red--that is probably one of the most brilliant things i have ever heard in regards to this whole binging business. you know, maybe that's my problem- i guess i hadn't really thought of it that way before.
i get you though. i know what i am doing is wrong and i continue to do it. i think about it as i binge. i hope you understand how much i fully empathize. so then, what is one to do? honestly, i have thought about going to a psychiatrist to maybe get a prescription. i really have no problem taking pills to help me get to where i want to be (disclaimer- by pills, i do not mean OTC "diet" pills- i know they are bunk.. i mean an actual prescription for the screwed up way my head works...).
i'm also looking into alternative medicine, but that can get expensive and is usually not covered by insurance... yeah, i am not sure what to do about the whole business either.
Last edited on 14 May 2008 01:48 am by zenobia
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DaniMae1
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Posted: 15 May 2008 08:04 am |
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AshIdiot wrote:
You don't tell a heroin addict to do a jigsaw puzzle instead of shooting up, why would reading a book prevent you from eating everything in the house?
Heroin is a powerful pyschotropic drug.....overeating is a terrible, hard to break, habit that many people have. By reading a book on how to change this bad habit (lifestyle) one's mind could be changed to a better way of thinking. You'd be suprised at how much you can change in your life if you'd just change the way you think.
Last edited on 15 May 2008 08:06 am by DaniMae1
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1seekspie
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Posted: 15 May 2008 09:38 am |
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I know it's a term that's used for something positive, but I don't really like the whole concept of "changing the way you think." I think in the most special of cases, this could be a beneficial concept, but in cases that are bad yet not extreme, people should try to change how they think on their own.
The day my doctor told me she wanted me to see a counselor, I asked, "Why?" "Well," she replied, "we need some one who's going to help change the way you think."
Her tone was as comforting, serious, and gentle as could be, but I wasn't relieved, I was simply creeped out. Sure I don't like the things I do sometimes, but I'm happy with the way I think. I don't want any one changing that.
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zenobia
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Posted: 15 May 2008 12:20 pm |
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danimae- i do not agree that it is simply a "habit". i can break habits- i can avoid the behavior of a "habit". i quit smoking. this is a whole other world. one can stop herion and never do it again. one can stay away from people who do heroin. people can stay out of the environments where they smoked. one cannot avoid food. one actaully NEEDS it to stay alive. i's really a different place. you can't abstain from eating....
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cportwine
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Posted: 21 May 2008 04:07 pm |
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I know that if I can stop a binge then anyone can. Yea, it's hard and not easy. But, it is something one can achieve.
I think it is an addiction, just as bad as any addiction out there. But, how a person deals with it, is what makes the difference. I was way out of control with my eating habits and my weight before I decided to do it.
I cried allot, felt hunger pains at times, couldn't sleep, had headaches. I had allot of withdrawal symptoms.
But, three years later I am at 124lbs. So, it can be done.
I am telling you this, just to encourage you. I don't know how you will do it. But, you can't give up and you have to keep trying to find a way. Just today, I was out of control and ate a whole bag of m & m's. But, now I will punish myself and walk my brains out because of it. I am glad that I stopped at that, and didn't get more. So, everyone has a way, you just need to find yours. I know you feel helpless right now, and I know how that feels. There are no easy answers to your problem.
If talking to others doesn't help, then try something else that does help. I did allot of stupid things. But, I did finally manage to get the job done. It just takes time, determination, and the ability to forgive yourself when you mess up.
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