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ItsOnlyMe
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 Posted: 13 Jul 2011 06:07 pm
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What do you think about eating whole eggs?

I know that some nutritionists recommend throwing the yolk out, or they might suggest having two eggs, and throwing one yolk out.

Others say the yolk is important, and that the egg should be eaten whole.

Personally, I agree with the whole egg argument. What about you?

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 Posted: 13 Jul 2011 09:12 pm
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Recent research on eggs has pretty much exonerated them. Eating a couple of scrambled eggs for breakfast is better than eating a refined carb bagel.

Everyone is different in terms of how they process eaten cholesterol. Trans fats are the worst for raising cholesterol, followed by saturated fat from dairy, followed by saturated fat from meat, followed by saturated fat from coconut and chocolate. Eating cholesterol in the form of eggs has a rather minimal effect on blood lipids for most people.

There are some people who eat lots of eggs every day with normal cholesterol. You have to figure out how eating eggs affects your own body by trial and error.

I think diabetics aren't supposed to eat more than one egg yolk per day, because they are more sensitive to having their cholesterol raised by egg yolks. But even among diabetics there is variation. I saw one recent study that found diabetics eating a weight-loss diet that included two eggs a day every day for breakfast actually had improved their blood lipids and lost weight.

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 Posted: 13 Jul 2011 09:43 pm
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Oh, and to sing the praises of eggs:

They taste good, they make a satisfying breakfast, they have lots of protein, you can buy the kind that have the extra Omega 3 in the yolk to boost that in your diet. You can prepare 'em many different ways.

I think eggs are definitely a good "diet" food. But, standard disclaimers apply: I'm not a doctor or nutritionist, I'm basing this off of what I read in various places. If you have high cholesterol and/or diabetes, talk to your doc before you jump into eating lots of eggs.

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 Posted: 14 Jul 2011 05:14 am
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PuffsPlus wrote: Oh, and to sing the praises of eggs:

They taste good, they make a satisfying breakfast, they have lots of protein, you can buy the kind that have the extra Omega 3 in the yolk to boost that in your diet. You can prepare 'em many different ways.


Thanks PuffsPlus for your comment.

I agree that they do make a satisfying breakfast. If I have two boiled eggs in the morning, I feel ok, but if I have anything else, I usually feel hungry after an hour or so.

Many people believe that cholesterol in eggs causes an increase in (bad) cholesterol in the body. That's like saying that foods containing fat cause the body to be fat.

For most people, I would say that eggs can be a healthy part of the diet, but as you say, each of us needs to find out by trial and error how our bodies react to them.

Thanks.

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 Posted: 14 Jul 2011 07:39 am
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ItsOnlyMe wrote: Many people believe that cholesterol in eggs causes an increase in (bad) cholesterol in the body. That's like saying that foods containing fat cause the body to be fat.

Well, the idea that "eating fat causes the body to be fat" is what drove the whole low-fat dieting craze of the 90s and made diet guru Susan Powter so successful for a while.

People thought, "I can eat anything I want as long as it's low fat".

Focusing on the supposed dangers of a single macronutrient -- fat, cholesterol, carbs -- without considering its place in ones overall diet or the sources of that macronutrient has had terrible repercussions for public health in the US. Marion Nestle calls it "nutritionism".

So back to eggs...IOM, have you read Michael Pollan's books? Since reading _Omnivore's Dilemma_, I try to buy eggs from grass-fed hens when I can. Yes, they are way expensive, but they are more humane to the hens and better for humans.

The only brand I've seen that claims it comes from free-range grass-fed hens is sold only by my local Whole Foods, and it's called "Ethical Eggs". Of course they are very expensive compared to normal eggs-- $4.99 for a dozen, I think.

I also sometimes buy fresh eggs from a local farm, but it's a long drive to go get those.

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 Posted: 14 Jul 2011 06:33 pm
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PuffsPlus wrote: So back to eggs...IOM, have you read Michael Pollan's books? Since reading _Omnivore's Dilemma_, I try to buy eggs from grass-fed hens when I can. Yes, they are way expensive, but they are more humane to the hens and better for humans.
I have heard of The Omnivore's Dilemma, but I've never read it. I probably should, because I find books on food fascinating to read.

I buy free range eggs, but I've never seen eggs from grass-fed hens in my area. As you suggest, the better quality of life an animal has, the better (and tastier) the meat / egg / milk is.

I saw the film Food Inc., and it showed a chicken ranch, and the appalling conditions the hens had to live in, and it compared that with a farmer who let his chickens run around. What a contrast.

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 Posted: 14 Jul 2011 09:35 pm
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If I eat a waffle with a little butter and syrup first thing of the day, I get the jitters about 30 minutes later (sugar/carb spike/dip?) and it makes me "feel like" I'm hungry.  It's especially bad with caffeinated coffee, but still experience it with decaf.  

However, add one egg on the side (actually right on top:wink:) and I'm good to go for several hours.  Must be the protein or fat, 'cause just the extra 100 calories couldn't make that much difference.

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 Posted: 15 Jul 2011 08:58 am
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Nancy_in_GA wrote: If I eat a waffle with a little butter and syrup first thing of the day, I get the jitters about 30 minutes later (sugar/carb spike/dip?) and it makes me "feel like" I'm hungry.

Yes! I can totally relate. Same thing happens to me if I eat a carb-laden breakfast with little fat or protein. Based on what I have read, what you were experiencing is very probably the blood sugar high and then crash as you mentioned.

Eating fat and protein with carbs, especially if there is fiber too, helps to slow the digestion of those carbs. That gives you a more even blood sugar burn that keeps you satiated for longer.

Cottage cheese also has lots of protein. If I eat a waffle for breakfast, I eat it with a bit of lowfat cottage cheese and fruit on top.

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 Posted: 15 Jul 2011 09:17 am
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PuffsPlus wrote: ItsOnlyMe wrote: Many people believe that cholesterol in eggs causes an increase in (bad) cholesterol in the body. That's like saying that foods containing fat cause the body to be fat.

Well, the idea that "eating fat causes the body to be fat" is what drove the whole low-fat dieting craze of the 90s and made diet guru Susan Powter so successful for a while.

People thought, "I can eat anything I want as long as it's low fat".

Focusing on the supposed dangers of a single macronutrient -- fat, cholesterol, carbs -- without considering its place in ones overall diet or the sources of that macronutrient has had terrible repercussions for public health in the US. Marion Nestle calls it "nutritionism".

So back to eggs...IOM, have you read Michael Pollan's books? Since reading _Omnivore's Dilemma_, I try to buy eggs from grass-fed hens when I can. Yes, they are way expensive, but they are more humane to the hens and better for humans.

The only brand I've seen that claims it comes from free-range grass-fed hens is sold only by my local Whole Foods, and it's called "Ethical Eggs". Of course they are very expensive compared to normal eggs-- $4.99 for a dozen, I think.

I also sometimes buy fresh eggs from a local farm, but it's a long drive to go get those.
Thanks for the suggestion..

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 Posted: 15 Jul 2011 05:33 pm
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I'm a fan of Weston Price and a spoiled Oregonian ( Check out Portlandia- that show is dead-on!) so I eat a LOT of eggs. There's a farmer's market across the street, so If I can, I go for those (Usually in winter the chickens don't produce so it's back to the ones from Trader Joes's)

Poached eggs over spinach makes an amazing breakfast - or with asparagus if your're into that whole dunking food into egg yolk idea. :grin:

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 Posted: 16 Jul 2011 03:14 am
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Tankgirl: Do you buy most of your food from farmer's markets? Portland must have an abundance of them.

Here on the East Coast, we have them only in spring/summer. Do you have them all year in Portland?

Oh, fun fact: eggs from hens that have access to eating grass have orange yolks due to the greater percentage of beta carotene in the hen's diet. If the hens have access to pasture and bugs and worms, the eggs also have more protein in them compared to the typical eggs from confined grain-fed chickens, also reflecting the hens' protein-richer diet.

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 Posted: 16 Jul 2011 04:10 am
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The big ones are only May-nov .There's a little one open year round- I'm actually in the 'burbs but close enough to Portland for day trips and concerts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2LBICPEK6w


Plus the free range ones taste so much better- it's like hollandaise in a shell!

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 Posted: 17 Jul 2011 11:44 am
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OK, so I went shopping at Whole Foods yesterday. The brand is "Vital Farms", and they are actually $5.99. Seems crazy to pay that much for eggs, I know, but I personally feel it's worth it to buy food that is both more nutritious and more humanely obtained.

There is another brand that Whole Food sells that uses the word "pasture" in its name. But nowhere on the container could I find the words "pasture-raised," which makes me think this might be an example of misleading advertising.

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 Posted: 17 Jul 2011 12:04 pm
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LOL been there.When we have a cash surplus I really stock up, especially if the store's in another city. Right now hub's annoyed because his junk won't fit in the fridge...what a shame! :grin:

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 Posted: 17 Jul 2011 03:37 pm
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Tankgirl wrote: LOL been there.When we have a cash surplus I really stock up, especially if the store's in another city. Right now hub's annoyed because his junk won't fit in the fridge...what a shame! :grin:
Time to buy hub a fridge of his own? Maybe one of those little "dorm size" ones? :cool:

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 Posted: 17 Jul 2011 04:23 pm
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Well, he doesn't need that junk either. He knows when I get to goal weight, he is in big trouble! I'd really like to see what a change in diet will do for his ADHD, not to mention have him around as long as possible. That's pretty hard to do on Doritos and Capt'n Crunch.

About the breakfast thing. On Saturdays I have a workout class and a lot of riding with some pretty huge hills. Midway through I used to just barely make it to the nearest grocery store for a snack after the workout because I was too wiped out to make it any farther. Yesterday I had a pork chop instead of my usual protein shake and had energy to burn- I got an a extra five miles :-)

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 Posted: 17 Jul 2011 06:56 pm
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If you're into organic eggs, check this out: http://www.cornucopia.org/organic-egg-scorecard/

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 Posted: 18 Jul 2011 12:44 pm
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I love eggs and I think its ok eating the whole egg.

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 Posted: 18 Jul 2011 01:24 pm
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martinsphinx wrote:

I love eggs and I think its ok eating the whole egg.

Yeah, me too. The yolk is the best bit!

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 Posted: 19 Jul 2011 09:29 pm
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I love my eggs in the morning or for lunch. I use one whole egg, and only the whites of two to three eggs. I usually make an omelette with this combination, but have made scrambled eggs as well. It makes a high protein egg dish.

I used to throw out my egg yolks, because I never knew what to do with them. Now, I give them to my dogs, they love them.

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 Posted: 19 Jul 2011 09:54 pm
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Love2Cycle wrote: I used to throw out my egg yolks, because I never knew what to do with them. Now, I give them to my dogs, they love them.
Ha, great minds think alike. I eat a bunch of hard boiled egg whites each day to keep up with my protein, but I only eat 1 egg yolk a day.

I give one or two of the egg yolks to my cats. They love them too. Now my one cat starts meowing and begging as soon as he sees me get the bag w/ the  hard boiled eggs out of the fridge.

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 Posted: 9 Aug 2011 12:32 pm
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I raise my own chickens and we eat a ton of eggs.  For me, it's a cheap way to get in my protein.  I resisted the idea of throwing the yolk out for a long time because I'm just not a waster.  But, then again, there is the dog. 

If you are just starting out losing weight and are used to the standard american diet, eating the whole egg will not matter.  If you have already lost alot of weight and are at a plateau or have only a few more pounds to lose, it makes all the difference.

An egg with the yolk is almost 50% fat.  If you are trying to cut your fat intake to below 20%, that tiny yolk will make or break you.


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